Tent Grow - Jack Herer - White Widow & Amnesia Haze - Mars II LED

Day 37

JH and WW got their foliar treatment of Epsom salts. They are outside the tent getting a blow dry. There certainly is more work to be done with their training. I'll get to it soon.

JH

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WW

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Dark Devil - She's Special

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Those Dark Devils are so tiny at this stage that you seriously begin to wonder. Take heart. They never get as big as you want, but they end up packing such a punch that you automatically want to grow more.

I hope the epsoms do the job you need them to do. These plants will take so much abuse and still reward you it's insane. Looking forward to seeing what training you're planning.
 
SweetSue said:
Those Dark Devils are so tiny at this stage that you seriously begin to wonder. Take heart. They never get as big as you want, but they end up packing such a punch that you automatically want to grow more.

I hope the epsoms do the job you need them to do. These plants will take so much abuse and still reward you it's insane. Looking forward to seeing what training you're planning.
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JH and WW are looking better to me this morning. I can see a distinct difference under the light. No major training -just pulling some fans down and under if possible and pinning some colas down to promote some lateral growth.

:thanks: for stopping in.
 
Day 38

Lets of activity for tent girls this morning. JH and WW went to the bath tub for a good soaking in tap water, then a good flushing with prepared water adjust to pH 6.5. After a good draining, they got full strength grow nutes and CalMag with pH of 6.75. They had their third and last foliar Epsom salts.

Finally noticed some distinct growth for Dark Devil (Day 22) from yesterday. Gave her some of the same nutes.

JH

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WW

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Group

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DD

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How tall is that tiny DD now? Mine's at 27 days and only 2.5". Yeah, it always concerns me too, and then they grow. :battingeyelashes:
 
SweetSue said:
How tall is that tiny DD now? Mine's at 27 days and only 2.5". Yeah, it always concerns me too, and then they grow. :battingeyelashes:
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I knew this question wasn't answered and somehow I got off track. Yesterday she measured 2 inches. Today looks 2 inches also so it's not gaining enough each day to be noticeable. But I swear to you she is just a little coiled spring getting ready to jump...LOL.
 
I got another 1/4" out of mine today. Up to 2.75" now, and not trying to set any speed records herself, but look at all that action going on! Like a miniature powerhouse! :laughtwo:

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Day 44

Jack Herer and White Widow and just plugging along. These are from Robert Bergman's seed bank and both are feminized and I first noticed the pistils 3 days ago. Both received some LST during the past week and I've decided to let these go without any further training. I may tuck some larger fans below bud sites going forward but that's about it. I printed out some calendars last week and I've begun some preliminary plotting/planning. I need to decide how long I will veg these girls. The Dark Devil auto in the tent is at 4 weeks and may never see a 12/12 light period.

JH - 12 inches


WW - also 12 inches


Group photo.


DD Day 28finally getting some fine growth. 3 inches



I really appreciate all of you who are looking in. Progress reports are likely to be weekly going forward as this is more realistic to provide trends. I'll start getting some better photos as thing change.

Comments and questions are always welcome. :circle-of-love::thanks: Visit the contests in my sig and vote.
 
Your Dark Devil is looking wonderful. Really beginning to take off now. What light schedule are they on now? I don't understand what you meant by the DDA wouldn't see 12/12.

If you're seeing pistils on these girls I'd think you'd want to get them flipped now. What am I missing Jim?
 
SweetSue said:
Your Dark Devil is looking wonderful. Really beginning to take off now. What light schedule are they on now? I don't understand what you meant by the DDA wouldn't see 12/12.

If you're seeing pistils on these girls I'd think you'd want to get them flipped now. What am I missing Jim?
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Well, it may be something that I have wrong but here goes: Somewhere I read before I planted my first seed was a comment from a breeder that said something like: "Many indoor grows fail to produce the expected results because the grower doesn't allow the plants to stay in vegetative phase for the proper length of time." This is ingrained in my head.

Also, I was reading a Graytail thread and he explained that he underestimated the veg phase in a previous post. It went something like he first said he averaged 7 weeks, but his records actually was more like 70 days. I think I got that right. Breeder notes indicated both my hybrids should flower at 60 days. It won't hurt them in any way that I'm currently aware of to go 70 days or beyond before a flip.

Anyway, as I look back on what I've done so far, my cab grow was flipped day 64 and it could have gone a little longer but I was fixated on determining sex at that time. So much so that my disappointment of a male almost caused me throw/toss the female.

I also know that fundamentally that I've been steered toward these indoor growing projects to teach me something. That something has already been identified as "Patience".

I must allow these plants to tell me something about their lives, when they need something that I have some control over. When I played golf I wanted to be the ball. It's pretty much the same theory with plants. I want to feel what a calcium deficiency is all about and how to fix that and ultimately know that what I do today will affect what goes in the jar later. Like I said in my earlier post, these girls are only at 12 inches. I fully believe that there is potentially more development both laterally and horizontally. Plus, I have plenty of head space available and I'm confident that the root system isn't fully developed at this time. I can't see what's going on down there but something will tell me.

That's all I got girl. Let know if this doesn't make any sense.
 
You make perfect sense. When you watch Graytail, keep in mind that he now grows in the Land 'O Light, and that has had a marked difference in his plant growth and performance. His schedules this run are way off his previous stages. He should be considered in his own class.

The Dark Devil is an Auto. Autos flower and veg simultaneously for about half their lives. The caution for a cultivator is to keep the veg spectrum going during that time and resist the urge to shift right over to bloom lighting. Are you running your panel at full spectrum? This would overcome any of those concerns. The autos will grow and bloom under any light schedule and, as Atrain just mentioned yesterday on his regular journal, you can even switch them from one tent to another with different lighting schedules.

Patience. I try not to say it too loud. :laughtwo: I don't want God to suspect I need another object lesson. He has me on my own path that requires the fine art of listening with all the senses.

Your awareness of this essential skill in cultivation and the ardent desire to let it develop as a natural instinct speaks volumes about the man Jim. Gave me pause there. :love:
 
SweetSue said:
You make perfect sense. When you watch Graytail, keep in mind that he now grows in the Land 'O Light, and that has had a marked difference in his plant growth and performance. His schedules this run are way off his previous stages. He should be considered in his own class.

The Dark Devil is an Auto. Autos flower and veg simultaneously for about half their lives. The caution for a cultivator is to keep the veg spectrum going during that time and resist the urge to shift right over to bloom lighting. Are you running your panel at full spectrum? This would overcome any of those concerns. The autos will grow and bloom under any light schedule and, as Atrain just mentioned yesterday on his regular journal, you can even switch them from one tent to another with different lighting schedules.

Patience. I try not to say it too loud. :laughtwo: I don't want God to suspect I need another object lesson. He has me on my own path that requires the fine art of listening with all the senses.

Your awareness of this essential skill in cultivation and the ardent desire to let it develop as a natural instinct speaks volumes about the man Jim. Gave me pause there. :love:
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Well, all I can say is my understanding of autos is different. They auto-flower and produce bud based on the genetics (generally bred with ruderalis) not the light sequence.

I could be wrong. This one should go 8.5 weeks on average. If my premise is correct, another few weeks on an 18/6 light schedule should have absolutely no effect on the DD. The photo-period plants will be main show in this tent. The DD is just along for the ride and should give me a crop by the end of November. The LED is only using the "Growth" setting. When I switch to 12/12 I will also hit the "Bloom" switch and it will then be full spectrum. I really chose not to get involved with light spectrum and PAR and any of that stuff. It's above my pay grade I'm afraid.

Please keep in mind that what I envision may be adjusted for when real life shows up. I still contend that success depends a little on how one implements Plan B.
 
In my experience, success depends in great part to how smoothly you can morph Plan B into something it didn't look like when you started because life changed the rules again just as you put the plan into place.

It was a rough twenty years. I learned to be fluid to the extreme. I also learned most of the time all you need to do is keep breathing and believing in the impossibe. God pulls off impossible all the time.

Your DD is along for the ride, as you say, and will reward you greatly. She'll reward you regardless. Watch Atrain closely enough and you may find yourself growing more autos. He pulls more off his autos than most pull off their photos.

The extra hours of 18/6 will only benefit the auto. If you want to increase the yield potential you could side light it with a couple CFLs on a strip. Since you'll be decreasing the light schedule it would help if more light, and more varied light, were offered. Not that it's necessary, mind you, just that it could give you some interesting colors and trichomes.
 
These cuts were taken 10 days ago and I had hoped that when I peeked at them I'd see some roots maybe. Wrong.

The plants are rigid and not wilted at all. Bottom leaves are yellowing which tells me everything is ok. I'm not even going to guess when I might see anything here so I'll just leave them alone until Saturday or Sunday.

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Jack Herer cut

 
I see no reason to lose hope. These things take time. They look quite good. I say sciguy knows what he's talking about.
 

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