AKgramma
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So, a word to the wise, don't pee directly on anything you want to LIVE! That's a lot of PPM if diluted to 1/15th!
Tead's Indoor-ish, Winter, Hempy, OGK, SOG
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Unless it's on fire of course.
It's a nice range at 1/15th strength though.
For reference I'd call 650 ppm about 'half strength' or roughly maybe 15 ml/gallon of nutes, I'm guessing.
It's a nice range at 1/15th strength though.
For reference I'd call 650 ppm about 'half strength' or roughly maybe 15 ml/gallon of nutes, I'm guessing.
Unless it's on fire of course. QUOTE]
Which works the other way too - Pee directly on athlete's foot to knock out the bacteria.
A few years back, two drops of urine in my ear took out a 3 week old ear infection in 2 days. The infection had successfully resisted doctor prescribed anti-biotics.
Thank you for info.
I don't have the urine as fert in the yucky department, More thinking of it as use in compost pile. Of course , the more healthy you eat, the better is the sample.
personally, when I buy meat, I rinse off the meat and save water to feed the ladies. But, other blood samples are out of the question
Weaseley, friend, thank you for that. Tho I must admit I do not know how to use those numbers. Me teeny brain has yet to comprehend the significance of ppm. Oh sure I know what it means, sure I do. People per mile, right?? Points per measure???
Just kidding, ha.. So, my assumption is this. Parts per million measures the concentration of nutrients in the liquid?? Is this how one insures that one does not over fertalize??
At work, on fine, can't see, poor me get back to work nivek. Oops,, cheers get now
Just kidding, ha.. So, my assumption is this. Parts per million measures the concentration of nutrients in the liquid?? Is this how one insures that one does not over fertalize??
At work, on fine, can't see, poor me get back to work nivek. Oops,, cheers get now
Yes. The meter I have measures parts per million of the dissolved nutrient, aka TDS or -total dissolved salts. This tells us accurately how concentrated the solution is.
To put it in context, I think most nutrient schedules on bottles will max out at around 30ml/gallon. This mix would probably read around 1300+ ppm (roughly) and is what people call 'full strength'.
'Half strength' or 15ml/gallon is going to be roughly around 650 ppm.
My drain to waste plants have been getting fed at about 650 ppm for most of flowering. This is fairly light, but they get fed more often, and seem to like it.
Adolescent vegging plants get around 300-400 ppm and the little ones get a very weak mix of 150-200 ppm.
Not sure about the NPK levels, etc and how that would work out through flowering, but aside from that- the pee range I tested would be very good for a hydro plant from start to finish. You could probably gauge feeding levels just by color/intuition. And the ph is perfect.
To put it in context, I think most nutrient schedules on bottles will max out at around 30ml/gallon. This mix would probably read around 1300+ ppm (roughly) and is what people call 'full strength'.
'Half strength' or 15ml/gallon is going to be roughly around 650 ppm.
My drain to waste plants have been getting fed at about 650 ppm for most of flowering. This is fairly light, but they get fed more often, and seem to like it.
Adolescent vegging plants get around 300-400 ppm and the little ones get a very weak mix of 150-200 ppm.
Not sure about the NPK levels, etc and how that would work out through flowering, but aside from that- the pee range I tested would be very good for a hydro plant from start to finish. You could probably gauge feeding levels just by color/intuition. And the ph is perfect.
cheers friend,, well put,, clear and concise,, might tds = total dissolved solids? have heard that term a million times, could mean several things i spose
because of this information and the bunch the past few posts,, i went out and checked the ph of the peanut butter reservoir, my week old sprout in there,, probably only now reaching down as far as the reservoir,, anyhooo, the ph was 8.5 or so,, no idea how it got that high,, nothing around here is anywhere near there,, as i mentioned,, i ph all my watering water beforehand,, so, i surmise that the perlite bumped it up there
should one wash the perlite,, it is very dusty,, even the big stuff has a tonno dust in it
anyhoo agin, thanks to the conversation,, my ph is now 5.6 or so
checking the ph is a bit of a pain i guess,, one must drain some water out of the reservoir?? is that the way to do it?
cheers agin friends,, thanks so much,,
because of this information and the bunch the past few posts,, i went out and checked the ph of the peanut butter reservoir, my week old sprout in there,, probably only now reaching down as far as the reservoir,, anyhooo, the ph was 8.5 or so,, no idea how it got that high,, nothing around here is anywhere near there,, as i mentioned,, i ph all my watering water beforehand,, so, i surmise that the perlite bumped it up there
should one wash the perlite,, it is very dusty,, even the big stuff has a tonno dust in it
anyhoo agin, thanks to the conversation,, my ph is now 5.6 or so
checking the ph is a bit of a pain i guess,, one must drain some water out of the reservoir?? is that the way to do it?
cheers agin friends,, thanks so much,,
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It's killin me. I think I finally got a handle on it. This is my first winter with the little bloom room and the slightly reconfigured air flow.
I think I've settled into a day/night configuration that only requires a slight venting change and switching some fans on and off.
Right now, I've got things about 20 degrees above the outside temps. All good except at the peak of the daily heat. 75f puts my garden at 95f.
Meh.... it's slowly falling into place and the plants are diggin the cooler temps.
Such funny weather patterns. The cool fronts slide down from the north and push out the warm gulf air. Then, over the next few days, the warm air eventually pushes the cool air north of the I-10 line. Crazy repetitive.
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I just can't thank you enough for that scientific report.
I worry about the difference between colors. Surfing that color change and ppm dance might be tough.
Nice!
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So, in my little corner of the world, I find that checking the PH of the res in a hempy grow seems useless. It's usually high... so high that trying to correct for it would mean putting water in at like 3 or 4. The plants grow great this way, so adjusting down that low would seem like a poor idea. The roots that come out of it look great.
I've said it often and I'll share it again. Testing hempy runoff gets nowhere... nothing but madness lay there.
One should wash perlite. Both between grows and with new stuff. I flush/clean it in place usually. The dust will settle mostly and some of it will flow out the hole when you clean it. The Miracle Grow stuff is finer grained and has a good bit of dust. I bleach and flush the crap out of used perlite. I just flush the new perlite real well.
lexort420
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Ill second that reading ph runoff will drive you nuts. Its a never ending loop of frustration and anxiety 
listen to tead he will save ya some trouble lol
listen to tead he will save ya some trouble lol
cannaruss
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Hello Tead, top of the morning to ya. I finally settled on a second light for my flower tent. I purchased the MarsHydro2 900. Hopefully it will cover the other 4x4 space when the time comes to put all these lovelies into flower. Should be here in a few days and I will take some pics. Now the question is how long do I wait to put these puppies into flower? They are about 8 inch tall and 8 to 10 inches wide with plenty of tops.
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Color me jealous. I gotta find some scratch and gets me sum bettah lights. My 400wHPS could jump up to 600w without too much heat impact. My veg room has been running on a hodge podge of various lights forever... I'd love to consolidate the veg tent.
Your question echos thru these halls and joins the words of others that fall into that category. Probably one of the top subjects around here.
The answer really isn't that hard... but it's far from a 'firm' answer.
Generally, we think of plants doubling in height after entering the bloom room. The answer rotates around your available space. Grow the plant in veg until it's 1/2 the height you can support in bloom.
There can be many variations on the theme of course, but I bet you get the general idea.
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Gratuitous bud porn.....
cannaruss
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you are right Tead. I have plenty of room in my tent, I could let them veg forever but im only vegging them under cfl's. What I need is a nice UFO led light for veg and see what happens there. I could get a decent one for about 70 bucks. My two plants in flower are now at day 26. I don't want to wait much longer or it will be another 45-60 day wait on the next harvest, I need to get this perpetual thing going good. My clones should be rooted about December 1st, I think that's when I will take my four vegging plants and put them to flower and then put the clones to vegging. Nice shot of that bud, I can smell it from here.
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Flying low... fast and dirty state of the union kinda update. Doing water heater installations (both gas and electric!) today.
It's great weather in The Big Easy these days. Lows in the mid 60's, highs in the mid 70's. Might get cooler, but not really significantly.
Running some heat at night. Both bloom and veg are running between 70 and 90. Beautiful.
Shit's working great all around and a sharp eye will be needed to distinguish the various waves in Tead's little sea of green.
Veg
Bloom
It's great weather in The Big Easy these days. Lows in the mid 60's, highs in the mid 70's. Might get cooler, but not really significantly.
Running some heat at night. Both bloom and veg are running between 70 and 90. Beautiful.
Shit's working great all around and a sharp eye will be needed to distinguish the various waves in Tead's little sea of green.
Veg
Bloom
lexort420
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What do you think about those tall containers for pots? Its sure looking great in your garden brother!
cannaruss
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Looking real good Tead. Whens the next harvest? You look real tight on room, maybe harvest one plant put another in. Veg room could get to looking like a jungle before long. I like that oil heater, I got one in my veg room and I have a little ceramic in my flower room set on a timer to cut on once an hour during lights off. Im curious about the Critical+ for sure. I will be putting mine in flower in another week or so.