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No that is 12 tsp basically to fees for two days but only feed once & straight water the rest as @Emilya Green has suggested in other posts that I’ve been
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I also didnt know letting nutes sit could affect the product. Sheesh this is interesting..
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“remember, you are feeding for two watering cycles one with nutes until fully dry & then one with ph 6.3 water.” Thats a full wet/dry cycle according to @Emilya Green
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I think you have misunderstood Miss @Emilya Green 's advice.
The solution you feed with needs to be set (for this stage) at 6tsp per gallon. You can feed one plant many many times with one gallon of solution (but it isn't ideal to have it all mixed ahead).
You do not feed 6tsp of concentrate per feeding.
I'm hoping the plant doesn't take the excess too poorly, but it could.
The solution you feed with needs to be set (for this stage) at 6tsp per gallon. You can feed one plant many many times with one gallon of solution (but it isn't ideal to have it all mixed ahead).
You do not feed 6tsp of concentrate per feeding.
I'm hoping the plant doesn't take the excess too poorly, but it could.
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Okay im going to say it is what it is for this random seed but going to keep all of this great info in mind for this beautiful Wedding Cake Babies im ready for
Weighin the pot defo helped me.
I would stop using the meter and instead get used to how heavy the pot feels as the soil mix dries out. Each day, while you are getting used to feeling the changes in the weight of the pot of soil, look at the leaves and thin stems near the growing tips so that you become familiar with the way they will start to droop a bit as the soil mix dries up.
Yes, the changes in the leaves do seem to be accelerating.
Some of them can loose a bit of potency after a day or two. Some can start to smell.
Some of them might require being allowed to sit for 24 to 48 hours to allow for micro-organisms in the mixture to digest the nutrients to make them readily available to the plant when the mix is poured onto the soil. It takes a bit of time but this will fall into place.
This suggestion might help in the long run. If you do not need a whole gallon of the mixture you can mix up a 1/2 batch. This means to use a half gallon of water and half of the dose. That way the ratio of the nutrients per oz of mixed water stays the same. Need even less then mix up a batch using a quart of water and 1/4 of recommended nutrient amount.
Ah, I think I am understanding the confusion. Using "Week 3" on the Fox Farm chart as an example it shows 6 tbs of Big Bloom to one gallon of water. This does not mean that if the plant is getting watered twice in one week you have to mix up 12 tsps for the first watering because the second watering 3 days later will be plain water.No that is 12 tsp basically to fees for two days but only feed once & straight water the rest as @Emilya Green has suggested in other posts that I’ve been
It will fall into place.
It looks like light burn. Raise your lamps, increase tent humidity, don’t over or under water it.Hey guys! Here is my first grow and im starting with a bag seed but I first started the seedling in miracle grow and just transplanted to foxfarms but have been struggling with deficiencies. I believe i could have overwatered a few times but thats about it. Started noticing black and brown spots on the tips and sides of leaves After transplanting. Stems are also purple. Temp and humidity is around 80 degrees 60-70% Ph is set to about 6.3-6.5 and only feeding with the the first step liquid plant food but have the quantity. Getting ready to plant some official wedding cake and just want to be prepare. Thanks guys, much love! Also the pictures are making the plant look a lot more yellower than it is it’s darker green than the pic but some of the plant like I said is definitely either pure white, (the top leaf thats I clipped) and a few other problems but started noticing the brownish black spots on the edges after switching soils. Using Mars Hydro TS2000 about 20” from the top of the plant and @ 75% strength.
Biggest problems with premixing nutrients is pH drift (usually drops) and micro organisms feasting on and depleting nitrogen. If you premix, refrigerate it and warm it up before feeding your plants.
Just got watered her after 4 days. Waited until she was completely dry & mixed 2 tsp Fox farms Grow Big & 12tsp of Big bloom in a 1 Gallon jugg of water & balanced the ph to about 6.4. Watered her last night about 1.5 Quarts. She is still looking hurt like color wise and how some of the leafs are pointing down and brown around the edges. Mostly all from overwatering & no feeding it proper nutrients from the start. What are your thoughts? Try to keep it going? Currently got 2 brand new seedlings of Wedding Cake by Barneys farm crawling up out of the soil.
Hi friend.
I was reading up here and got to this particular entry and I wanted to chime in if I may!
I used to be a FF girl last summer. I swore by it of course until I found @Prescription Blend, a nutrient sponsor here.
I agree with everyone in terms of feeding a seedling and root issues leading to her inability to uptake the nutrients you are giving her. So drying her out was important.
How old is she now? How many days since sprout?
You mentioned just now you mixed up 12tsp of Big Bloom-was that a typo?
Did you also mix the Big Bloom with the Grow Big in the same jug? If so, we need to address the 12tsp issue and also the issue of not having those in separate jugs.
Try all of this and if your Wedding Cake is getting ready to go, start a journal for us and document it from the beginning. We can stop this from happening to the next girls being proactive in our approach.
Good luck!
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You need to pull the plant check out the roots: repot with some potting soil and use a quarter formula of 10 52 10 Get the roots growing first and the plant will tag along.(your not growing a plant,you need to grow roots) big roots grow big healthy plants... don’t know why you are messing with big bloom ? That plant is hardly big enough for any fertilizer yet
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Thanks so much on the reply back! Honestly i feel like this plant has been above soil for about 4 weeks maybe more..it was a years old seed not sure if that has to do with it or if the initial over-watering stuntednits growth heavily. But yes I did mix them both in the same gallon and used 12tsp, i know it was a mistake from reading your guys other comments but im very excited to take all of this information into these next two plants. I already have a Journal started but haven’t officially posted a day one until all 4 leafs pop out. This morning she was showing two small official ones popping outHi friend.
I was reading up here and got to this particular entry and I wanted to chime in if I may!
I used to be a FF girl last summer. I swore by it of course until I found @Prescription Blend, a nutrient sponsor here.
I agree with everyone in terms of feeding a seedling and root issues leading to her inability to uptake the nutrients you are giving her. So drying her out was important.
How old is she now? How many days since sprout?
You mentioned just now you mixed up 12tsp of Big Bloom-was that a typo?
Did you also mix the Big Bloom with the Grow Big in the same jug? If so, we need to address the 12tsp issue and also the issue of not having those in separate jugs.
Try all of this and if your Wedding Cake is getting ready to go, start a journal for us and document it from the beginning. We can stop this from happening to the next girls being proactive in our approach.
Good luck!
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Im not sure why @Emilya Green suggest starting fertilizer’s right from the start if thats what it says on the chart… and Ive been trying to feed it nutes because its like a month old probably
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If you look at the feeding chart for any nutrient feeding system, you will find a dosage suggested for seedlings and very young plants. There are two schools of thought, minimalists who think that you are "feeding" the plants, and therefore you should not "feed" any more than they might need at that particular point in time, and then there are the growers of gargantuan gardens who know that instead of just feeding their plants, they are going to "fertilize" their plants, providing them with more than they would necessarily need, just so their plants grow bigger. Don't be afraid of your nutes. Garden like a boss. If you aren't at least burning the tips, you aren't trying hard enough.
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Yah I’m not all that up on /or into the indoor grow (a lot of unnecessary cost) pinch of this a scoop of that a little of this ,some more of that.. crikey it’s all a big marketing gimmick..! It’s a frig’n marijuana plant..stick it in good potting soil,,give it a one mix furt ( NPK) and stop buying into ( oh this will grow a monster bud and give you all the bragging rights BS ) it’s all about making them money .. you can take a peace of cow dung stick it in the bottom of your planter,add some soil and water... and your BUD will be as good maybe even better than your neighbors ...In the words of DR. Sumac : know it, hoe it ,sow it, grow it, stow it and blow it... If you get stoned “It’s GOOD weed
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Outdoor super soil and water
Man that stalk is like a f...n elephant trunk lol. Gainnssss
No problem!
Ok just for reference, I have 24 day olds, 2 photos and 1 auto. I start feeding them at the signs of the 2nd true leaves.
yes the early overwatering is very harsh on their little sensitive roots. I also wanted to note with the Wedding Cake girls, can you increase humidity at all? Closer to 70 maybe even 75? They absorb most of the water they can from the air at that stage so its important to keep the pot more dry but the air more humid-balance, right?
I always kept mine separate, especially since I dont integrate the Tiger Bloom until later and the Big Bloom until after the first couple weeks. You should be running Grow Big and Big Bloom until flower not fed at the same time and then come flower, as the chart suggests, begin Tiger Bloom and remove Grow Big.
Now I do feel the need to mention and I dont make any money off of my bud or my nutrients but switching over to @Prescription Blend or @GeoFlora Nutrients would be my ultimate suggestion for this grow and the WC girls coming. They are just steps above FF as much as I really liked it. If it is a monetary issue, you'll find that the costs run quite similar.
I'm just so big into giving the plants the best all the time cause we do want those big buds in the end.
Nutes do matter. Soil matters-I am still a FF girl there using Ocean Forest. Lights matter. Your TS is a good model I also run @Mars Hydro lights in the FC4800 and SP3000.
Excited to see what you got coming and how this one turns around.i know it was a mistake from reading your guys other comments but im very excited to take all of this information into these next two plants. I already have a Journal started but haven’t officially posted a day one until all 4 leafs pop out. This morning she was showing two small official ones popping out
Don't let this all become too edgy for you, just roll with the grow for the sake of sounding like a stoner lol there's tons of information on here.
When I first started, I would just go to journals in progress and read some established grows and new growers grows. I would see what they did that I didn't. What they tried that worked and what didn't. Mental notes of things like humidity and temps, lighting measurements, PPFD, growing mediums, soil amendments, you name it.
If you have some spare time, just hit one up from the start so you can kind of see where your seedling stages in terms of development vs others and who is doing what to their plants at that stage and in similar conditions.
Plenty of new journals on here start with similar issues and it is super beneficial to watch these threads to help you better tune in with your grows. I know it has done so with mine.
Reach out and get that journal started-earlier the better! Most importantly, love the grow and it will love you back