Sweetsue's First Grow - Stealthy Trio of Autos Under CFLs

With your setup? No, she couldn't be more beautiful. But your next run is going to be much better! You're just getting started.....you're gonna rock it, Sue.

Don't think I don't appreciate how much that means coming from you Doc. I'm all kinetic anticipation right now. Can't wait to get new seeds popped. I need to find our screens and get the vermicompost sorted out so these pots are ready to go. I think they're out in the bin on the balcony, which right now is encrusted in ice and snow. Arghhhhh!
 
Time to trim the next batch of buds. Only the branches that easily snapped were taken. The largest colas from both plants are still hanging. But for now, these need jarred up.

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They trimmed down nicely. My technique is improving as I go.

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Lovely little nuggets.

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I realized I had yet to add the quintessential comparison to a Bic lighter shot. Here it is. :laughtwo:

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All together a nice dry weight indeed.

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This 19 grams, added to last night's batch takes me over an ounce from the Bomb so far, with the bulk still drying. Ooooooweeeee! :slide:

Isn't this the most fun? :laughtwo:
 
Time to trim the next batch of buds. Only the branches that easily snapped were taken. The largest colas from both plants are still hanging. But for now, these need jarred up.

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They trimmed down nicely. My technique is improving as I go.

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Lovely little nuggets.

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I realized I had yet to add the quintessential comparison to a Bic lighter shot. Here it is. :laughtwo:

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All together a nice dry weight indeed.

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This 19 grams, added to last night's batch takes me over an ounce from the Bomb so far, with the bulk still drying. Ooooooweeeee! :slide:

Isn't this the most fun? :laughtwo:

You should end up with 20% of the wet weight, if you get rid of the stems and larger leaves.
 
You might wanna roll a big joint, sue. You have more than enough to tide you over until your next harvest is ready! Mission accomplished. What a good and liberating feeling it is!

I had that realization this afternoon CO and it caught me off guard. All these years we've battled that sense that the supply was limited. This will be a totally new experience for us. Not only always having enough but having top quality. Kind of a heady experience.

I've stayed somewhat buzzed today. Not being able to leave the house safely gave me the freedom to celebrate. It's weird though, because in 34 years together Dale and I have almost always smoked together.

I also took time today to do Callanetics (my fitness program). It's a serious mind/body method and I like to get a nice buzz going before starting. It helps me lose myself in the movements and I always let go of tension better. Previous to today that always had to be scheduled around the next time we were going to smoke together, to conserve the stash. Today I realized that I didn't have to worry about that any more. What a liberating feeling.

Now, let's get the next grow going and increase the inventory.
 
A little treat as we near the end of this journal.

SETTING UP A LOS NO-TILL GARDEN

I'm assuming you have already decided on the location and have determined the pots needed and the necessary lighting and climate requirements. Let's set to work with the other essentials - soil building and maintenance.

I see a series of very methodical steps that can be taken to set up and maintain an organic no till with minimal effort. It's really as easy as 1-2-3-4.

1. Build the soil.
2. Set up a SWICK watering system to spare yourself the frustration of under or over watering
3. Develop a regular plan for amendments and additives using teas, drenches and foliar sprays.
4. Prepare for the next grow

STEP ONE: BUILD THE SOIL
The Basic Clackamas Coots soil mix recipe for growing cannabis (in his own words):

"Equal parts of Sphagnum peat moss, some aeration deal (pumice, rice hulls, lava rock - whatever is sitting in the garage) and finally some mix of humus - my compost, worm castings some black leaf mold I bought from the local 'worm guy'
To each 1 c.f. of this mix I add the following:
1/2 cup organic Neem meal
1/2 cup organic Kelp meal
1/2 cup Crab meal (or Crustacean meal when available - it has Shrimp meal with the Crab meal. It's a local product from the fisheries on the Oregon & Washington Coasts)
4 cups of some minerals - rock dust

After the plant is in the final container I top-dress with my worm castings at 2" or so and then I hit it with Aloe vera juice and Comfrey extract. Or Borage. Or Stinging Nettle. Or Horsetail ferns. Whatever is ready.

The Rock Dust Recipe
4x - Glacial Rock Dust - Canadian Glacial (Gaia Green label)
1x - Bentonite - from the pottery supply store
1x - Oyster Shell Powder - the standard product from San Francisco Bay
1x - Basalt - from Redmond, Oregon (new product at Concentrates - about $18.00) ."

I believe that this recipe allows for some substitutions and that the biggest thing is to stick to the 1/3 SPM, 1/3 aeration, 1/3 humus and the amendments at the specified ratios. I have seen people (including myself) vary the actually "rock dusts" but don't if you can help it, and certainly don't omit the oyster shell flour in place of something else.

Living organic soil is very rewarding to grow in, give it a try, no one has ever looked back after going this route."

My only addition to this would be to add mycorrhizal fungi innoculant to the soil mix in advance of planting, or dust the roots with it before transplanting.

STEP TWO: A WATERING PLAN - SETTING UP THE SWICK
A SWICK is a self watering technique that allows the plants to essentially water themselves. The perlite that fills the reservoir wicks the water up to the pots and the extra 25% increase in aeration material in your soil mix wicks the water up into the soil where the roots can continuously access the ready water supply.

The depth of your reservoir is a personal matter. As long as you can keep the water level 1" to 2" below the bottom of the pot so you're not ever sitting in water you'll be fine. A shallow reservoir simply requires you to keep it topped off with greater diligence than the freedom afforded by a deeper one. Large kitty litter trays work well for this.

STEP THREE: CONTINUOUSLY AMENDING THE SOIL
This is my dream watering schedule. For my grow it wasn't necessary to water from the top once I installed the SWICK system, so this became my plan for drenches.

Water seedlings with coconut water or rainwater only.

The watering/amending schedule is done consistently, regardless of where the plant is in its life cycle.

Two to three waterings a week (basically every other day: I did twice a week)
- one enzyme tea watering (measurements for one gallon)
* 1 TBS sprouts, puréed
* 10 ml Fulpower fulvic acid
* 5 ml Agsil

- one rainwater watering
- one coconut/aloe watering
* 1/4 c fresh, young coconut water
* 1/4 tsp 200x aloe vera powder
* 5 ml Agsil
Repeat indefinitely.

Every three weeks add 1/4 tsp TM7 to 2-1/2 gallons water.

Beginning when there are four nodes, add bio accumulator teas.

With new soil do weekly application of two alternating teas
- 2-3 tsp neem meal + 1-2 tsp kelp bubbled in a half gal water for 24 hrs.
* dilute to make 2.5 gal water
* add 1/4 tsp aloe + 10 ml fulpower per gallon
- same measurements using alfalfa instead of neem

The estimated minimal cost of beginning this regime:
- $ 15 Malted barley (2.5 pounds; 4 oz/cup)
- $ 22 Coconut Water Powder (1/2 # = 75 gal @ 1/4 c. per gal.)
- $ 22 200x aloe powder
- $ 26 Fulpower (quart)
- $ 14.20 Agsil (pound)
- $ 13 TM7 (100 gm bag)
- $ 13 Neem/karanja (2.5 # = 5-6 cups)
- $ 14.06 Kelp meal (3# = 6 cups)

There are many plant-based amendments that can be used to fill the voids until you can afford to get these items picked up. For example, it's possible to substitute corn meal, molasses, kelp, equisetum, or camomile for plant immunity in place of neem/karanja, although you should eventually purchase them. Camomile in particular is legendary for its immunity properties. Sprouted corn can be substituted for coconut water to supply cytokinins.

Notes on this list of amendments:
- Priority should be given to coconut water, aloe vera juice and kelp meal
- Secondary priority to Fulpower (fulvic acid) and malted barley grain
- Third would be kelp, neem/karanja meal, TM7 and Agsil

STEP FOUR: SETTING UP FOR THE NEXT RUN
When you harvest, simply cut the main stalk above the soil surface and leave it. No need to remove the old root ball. Those old roots will eventually decompose into the soil matrix, leaving an internal network for additional aeration and pathways for nutrients to shuttle to the new roots.

The basic process is to gently move the old mulch to one side, add the top dressing, shift to the other side and repeat, then finish with additional mulch material. You want to dress with 2-4" of good quality vermicompost and any other thing you might want to add, as in some rock dust (granite or limestone are particularly beneficial) or some Yum Yum Mix, like I used.

If you have enough down time, maybe add an ACT or a SST, just for variety and why not? It never hurts to add something different every now and then, as long as it's organic in nature and used in moderation.

That's it. Top dress and water in. Plant and grow.

Easy peasy all the way.

:Namaste:

Thanks for this .. made my life a lot easier :) Now I can throw away numerous papers laying around my keyboard :)

I have a little question about the glacial rock dust. rockdustlocal.com has this on their site:

Q: Is Glacial Rock Dust Better than Single Geologic Sources like Basalt?


A: Not necessarily. Over 30 years ago one of the founding fathers of remineralization, John Hamaker, promoted the use of glacial and alluvial rock dusts for remineralization. This choice was based on his objective of emulating glacial forces in revitalizing the planet through remineralization. However, when comparing scores of mineralogical and geochemical analysis and actual field tests in current practice, we generally favor the single source volcanic geologic types such as the Basalts and the complex Metamorphic and Sedimentary rocks and Clays over the regional glacial and alluvial sands and gravels. This is not at odds with Hamaker's objective. Volcanic magmas are primary movers in tectonics, which are forces which shape the earth, and they play an essential role in the carbon cycle. Though we have found some very excellent glacial deposits, and offer some of the BEST we have found, on balance the glacial and alluvial materials are harder to quantify, more difficult to predict in uniformity of analysis over time, and generally poor in mineralogical content in comparison to the singular volcanic geology or the rich metamorphic conglomerate rocks, diverse hard rock sediments and clays. This is because as the glacial and alluvial sediments move from their original location many of the useful minerals weather away, leaving the harder, less nutritive materials in tact, as well as some of the heavier elements. Additionally, "Guaranteed" or "Typical" certified analysis are virtually impossible for glacial or alluvial sources, as the mineralogy will change from strata to strata even within a single mine. We have also quarantined more glacial and alluvial prospects than any other source type because of concentrations of heavy elements or other toxins, as these tend to settle and concentrate in the placers. This is an entirely natural process and easily verified in the data.

How does this square with our recommended usage of glacial rock dust ? Could someone help me understand this ?
 
I think he is saying:

Glacial Rock dust offers variety (generally a good thing) but quality and potential toxicity varies.
Basalt offers a known good quality product (but less variety)

Both offer woo-woo properties of mystic forces originating from deep in the earth that the founder of the rock dust movement valued.

So he's saying Basalt is Lobster from Red Lobster. Hey it's - good stuff!
Glacial Rock Dust is Lobster from a Maine Lobster Shack - potentially the best in the world, but might also be low quality.
 
BAM! Rad to the rescue. Made my heart skip a beat. :laughtwo::green_heart:
 
I think he is saying:

Glacial Rock dust offers variety (generally a good thing) but quality and potential toxicity varies.
Basalt offers a known good quality product (but less variety)

Both offer woo-woo properties of mystic forces originating from deep in the earth that the founder of the rock dust movement valued.

So he's saying Basalt is Lobster from Red Lobster. Hey it's - good stuff!
Glacial Rock Dust is Lobster from a Maine Lobster Shack - potentially the best in the world, but might also be low quality.

I read it again, and I dont think that is what he is saying .. it seems to me that it is more along the lines of: Glacial Rock Dust CAN be a good source for minerals, but it also could be sub-par .. and there is not really a way of knowing up-front what you will be getting .. not even when the location is the same as where they got it last time.

To me, it seems that it is way more important to know the mineral make-up of the preferred glacial rock dust, as we can not know what will be in our glacial rock dust, by virtue of the process that formed it.

It's kinda confusing to me :)
 
..unless you are anal like me, and want to understand why it works and how it works. Which is probably a university grade study in and of itself, which is probably why I'm confused :)
 
..unless you are anal like me, and want to understand why it works and how it works. Which is probably a university grade study in and of itself, which is probably why I'm confused :)

It works simply because microbes like minerals. That's how they roll....

The trouble with glacial rock dust is inconsistency. One batch can be lightening in a bottle, the next batch...not so much. A lot depends on the sodium levels.
 
...high sodium being good or bad ?

BAD! Base cations are:

Calcium, Magnesium, K, sodium (Na). We generally want 10x more Ca than Mg, 18x more Ca than K, and Na to be no more than .5% of cations in soil composition.

If calcium is to low, or potassium is too high, the plants begin to incorporate potassium into the cell wall. They still grow, but are weaker and less nutritious.

If sodium is too high, calcium and magnesium and even potassium "lock out" and nothing but trouble occurs.
 
BAD! Base cations are:

Calcium, Magnesium, K, sodium (Na). We generally want 10x more Ca than Mg, 18x more Ca than K, and Na to be no more than .5% of cations in soil composition.

If calcium is to low, or potassium is too high, the plants begin to incorporate potassium into the cell wall. They still grow, but are weaker and less nutritious.

If sodium is too high, calcium and magnesium and even potassium "lock out" and nothing but trouble occurs.

Daim .. I'll have to learn a lot to fully understand this :| Thanks for helping me out again ;)
 
My instinct tells me that the happy medium lies in a combination of rock dusts, unless there's a particular goal you are chasing that would require a specialized ratio. What I do know is the soil recipe I use grows cannabis that I am satisfied with, and has been proven by others to do so consistently over years of use, with regularly scheduled replenishment through drenches and teas. That recipe includes a mix of rock dusts with oyster shell meal added.

The Rock Dust Recipe
4x - Glacial Rock Dust - Canadian Glacial (Gaia Green label)
1x - Bentonite - from the pottery supply store
1x - Oyster Shell Powder - the standard product from San Francisco Bay
1x - Basalt - from Redmond, Oregon (new product at Concentrates - about $18.00) ."

The soil mix the HB growers use creates an environment that achieves the goals of ionic - the word I want to use here is orientation, but I'm not sure that explains it adequately - that grows the plant type they are chasing. If I understand it correctly, the HB mix is heavier in limestone.

Both groups grow incredibly beautiful and potent flowers using variations of a theme - highly mineralized soil - because, as Doc pointed out, microbes love minerals. It just turns out that we have found two different, yet similar pathways to the same goal. I think with all these creative brains working together we may come up with a melding of approaches that will offer yet another path to growing hearty cannabis with little stress, or at the very least, find some creative ways to improve our individual methods.

I'm interested in seeing what kind of results Conradino gets when he begins to test the Brix levels of his outdoor grow. What I'm really waiting to see is what changes he makes to improve those reading while staying true to his LOS roots. I know I will be more aware of feeding my worms minerals and in adding some interesting top dressings to the pots. Thinking about it, when I made the initial mistake of dumping my entire bag of minerals into my original mix and then scooped out excess when I discovered the mistake I probably ended up with a higher ratio of mineralization than I had set out to establish. It's entirely possible that may explain some of my results. Without testing the soil I will never know for sure, but my instincts have suggested this may be true. If I make the extra effort to continue introducing small amounts of a variety of rock dusts from time to time, from one source or another, I should be able to keep improving the crop.

In the end, this soil mix of mine works, and works mighty well. It took minimal work to create and almost no work to maintain, and it's only started. It's baby soil this run. The excitement will continue for season after season as it matures and refines and nurtures grow after grow after grow. Quite frankly, this soil rocks! If we can find ways to improve it and raise the Brix levels of LOS crops, all the better.
 
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