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Shed what is the assumed thc% of the flowers?

Using 14% I get 15000 x .14 x .85 = 1785 mg total thc

1785 / 60 ml = 29.75 mg/ml

So the math is right. Actually they would be a bit stronger because by using the mash, you pick up the .15 processing loss in the transfer from plant to oil.
I used 15% and 80% so we're spot on. Looks like I'll have to use less mash and cut the brownies smaller. :thanks:
 
Shed what is the assumed thc% of the flowers?

Using 14% I get 15000 x .14 x .85 = 1785 mg total thc

1785 / 60 ml = 29.75 mg/ml

So the math is right. Actually they would be a bit stronger because by using the mash, you pick up the .15 processing loss in the transfer from plant to oil.

See why I'm not a Pharmacist? :laugh:

2 Ounces of Oil (60ml) and 15 grams of bud huh? I think I'm confused by the intermingling of Metric and US measurements, but it is Sunday and I'm already roasted!

I'm still trying to search engine the heck out of saturation points Cannibinoids in Oil, I would have thought that would be something already tried and tested. There must be a limit a given volume of Carrier oil can bind or suspend. I'll keep digging through Dr. Raphael Mechoulams papers. I'm on a mission!

Peace
Keith
 
See why I'm not a Pharmacist? :laugh:

2 Ounces of Oil (60ml) and 15 grams of bud huh? I think I'm confused by the intermingling of Metric and US measurements, but it is Sunday and I'm already roasted!

I'm still trying to search engine the heck out of saturation points Cannibinoids in Oil, I would have thought that would be something already tried and tested. There must be a limit a given volume of Carrier oil can bind or suspend. I'll keep digging through Dr. Raphael Mechoulams papers. I'm on a mission!

Peace
Keith
I think that info was posted somewhere either in this thread or the Decoding The Holy Grail: Terpene & Cannabinoid Retention - Decarb to Extraction thread but I don't remember what the number is or how it was determined.

OldBear's spreadsheet deals in metric only so all my liquid amounts are converted before I enter the data. I included the imperial measurement as well because that's how I think until I need to do the calcs.
 
While walking through Barnes and Noble today I was compelled to check on the availability of Michael Backes’ Cannabis Pharmacy.

I allowed myself to follow the sudden impulse and take it home. :battingeyelashes:

 
I included the imperial measurement as well because that's how I think until I need to do the calcs.

I remember back in 1975 or so some gas stations in NO switching to liters vice gallons, and Americans couldn't/wouldn't accept it! Funny how some things have made the transition to metric in the US, and others have not. For me, Base 10 is just easier mathematically, but we still have some Imperial in our blood. Maybe some day the "world" will utilize the same measurement systems, i.e. Metric. First time I heard of someone selling a gram of bud, I was thinking, must be a new kinda weed or powder, because bud was always obtained in a unit of OZ or LB. :laugh: Old Man me!

Peace
Keith
 
I remember they tried that when I was in high school. No one bought into it.

Ha! I remember that national fiasco. I couldn’t understand why they didn’t stick with it.

We had three or four finger bags back when, no weight involved but lots of seeds:rofl::Namaste:

Ahhhh..... the “4-finger lid.”

I was describing the de-seeding technique to the daughter just the other day. I can remember when sensimilla hit the market in force. We were all amazed. Lol!

Fun! We await selected tidbits :).

It’s a great investment Shed. He gives useful medicinal information on 50 chemovars and in the medical conditions section he breaks it down into
- basic description of the disease state being treated
- the observed effectiveness of C. Sativa to treat this state
- proposed mechanism of cannabinoid action
- dosage guidelines
- methods of ingestion
- indicated chemotypes and popular varieties
- historical Uses and other assorted information

It’s been updated in the last year to reflect the enormous increase in understanding of cannabis therapies, now that so many Americans are using it medicinally again.

Under Alzheimer’s: Dosage

It is best to start with 2.5 mg THC at bedtime and 1.5 mg at breakfast and lunch. Target dose is 5 mg THC 2 to 3 times daily, orally. Nursing homes in Israel use balloon vaporizers, which are more predictable. Care must be observed with higher doses.

Also:

In animal studies Phytocannabinoid-derived 1:1 THC:CBD oral spray seemed to be more effective than either phytocannabinoid alone in reducing cognitive impairment.

There’s a lot to learn. That’s the second book I picked up this week. I also received my copy of Jack Herer’s book.


There are a couple other books out there I’m salivating for. I’m letting the universe bring them to me when the time is right. :battingeyelashes:
 
Hey guys, what do you think of a thread that simply dispenses whatever wisdom this book shares on cannabis therapies?

I’m seeing it as an easy question and answer. You have a condition you’re lookin’ to treat, I look it up and share what credible guidance exists. Kinda like a cannabis triage.
 
I’m looking over my notes from the class Mara Gordon gave on treating cancer with cannabis and I came across her suggestion for a daily regimen.

AM - 10-15 mg of THC medicine

After a couple hours - 25 mg of high CBD medicine

8 hrs later - 25 mg of high CBD medicine

Before bed - remaining high THC dose

All doses are suggested to be full-plant extractions

Average cancer patients under the care of Aunt Zelda’s medical teams are taking 50 mg of THC a day. Average being the operative word. In Mara’s world most cancers respond at doses lower than 300 mg total cannabinoids a day.
 
You will have to let us know if what you are reading in it seem to make sense.

Interestingly, I went looking for info on drug addiction and they suggest you use 30-50% the THC dose in CBD to alleviate the withdrawal symptoms.

Over at the opiate tapering thread we’re learning that it’s high doses of CBD that make the difference, not high doses of THC-dominance.

I find that disturbing. How is it possible that we, out here in the trenches with nothing more than passion and love can discover something the medical profession should have discovered by now?

The section on Alzheimer’s..... Shed learned from personal experience that the suggested doses are high. He went to minuscule doses when he was trying to work out a regimen for his father.

That makes two, three of you count the coverage of anxiety disorders. Lol!

There’s this deep fear of euphoria that appears to permeate the available information. For anxiety it’s recommended to get doses of CBD between 2.5 to 10 mg, with the possibility of getting them into the hundreds of mg for panic disorders.

THC is tightly constrained to doses as low as 1 mg, cutting off at 3 mg.

My daughter puts away as much cannabis as her mother, and high THC indicas are her preferred vaping choice. When she started the regimen she was terrified to get high. Then one day she let herself fall into it without resistance and that was the end of her fear.

She and I talk about the bias all the time, and she’s convinced it’s nothing more than fear.

Microdosing works, I don’t deny that. I’m not suggesting the world walk around stoned or high all the time. Most couldn’t deal with too much euphoria, but euphoria is so easily controlled by dose and ratio that this shouldn’t even be a concern.

There’s more going on here though, and the resistance to feeling good is disturbing. My daughter treats the most intense anxiety disorder I know of and she doesn’t do it with low THC, nor would she be willing to change her regimen to eliminate the euphoria she’s come to embrace.

So..... I’m a bit perplexed. I’ll learn a lot from the publication, I’ll just be careful with it until I verify their suggestions against our explorations and results.

We can brainstorm it to pieces. Lol!
 
Ok..... my initial excitement is slightly tempered, but right behind it came the thrill of figuring out if the regimens being practiced by our membership match what’s being recommended by the cannabis professionals.

Haven’t figured out yet how to approach it in thread form, but the passion for this one is really, really strong.

After reading of the tragedy of cannabis being branded illegal I spent the day wondering why we haven’t heard the personal stories of how the doctors and patients felt with the transition away from the world’s favorite and most effective medicine.

Everyone went silent it appears. Aslinger swung a heavy stick, backed by special police who reveled in the chaos they had to have known they were creating.

They didn’t count on the digital field. :battingeyelashes:
 
As a denizen of the center of car culture and a city that will never have adequate public transportation, I shudder to think of the possibility that we would consider most people trustworthy enough to control their euphoria with dose and ratio.

I see your point. I live urban, with no vehicle. Everything is available by foot or public transportation and I often forget there are great swatches of the country that don’t have those options.

Maybe the answer is in a change of culture and an increase in education. We developed chemovars that took you out into space. That’s shifting back to more reasonable ratios and I have to think that this euphoria will be easier to live with than everyone sucking down high THC.

I live on high THC, but I don’t drive. I don’t think I’d care to drive high.

I shudder to think of a world still controlled by urine testing. There’s a better way. I’m certain of it.
 
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