Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder - Big Bud - BubbleGum - Northern Lights

[SurfBuddy]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

I bumped all mine up to 800 ppm after the first week which was at 350 ppm. No problems here they're loving it. The little camera button is back if you want to try it out, right next to the insert picture link. It does however make everyone open your pics in a separate window instead of the old slide show viewer :/

I am at day 20 and have bumped up to full strength veg about 1250 ppm, they seem to love it.

Yes, you got the feeding schedule down. Just up the pH and PPM each week and use the right mixture for veg/flower and you're all set.

Look for "Insert what?" within the gallery popup and change it to "Original only" for the image to display correct size.

Up the pH each week? I understand the ppm, but why up the pH? and to what? It seems to drift up by itself...

YESS! That's it! photos like before!

2L FIM LST

2L New group stoked! Not droopy!

Jalapenos and lettuce lovin it too!

 

[ilikebike]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

hey man i am having the same problem with pH in my 2L Hempy DWC Perlite/vermiculite 75/25. My water is pH'd at 5.8 but when i drain the reservoir and test the pH its up at 7.0

And no i didn't wash my medium but how am i suppose to wash little grains of vermiculite?

 

[teSmp]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

hey man i am having the same problem with pH in my 2L Hempy DWC Perlite/vermiculite 75/25. My water is pH'd at 5.8 but when i drain the reservoir and test the pH its up at 7.0

And no i didn't wash my medium but how am i suppose to wash little grains of vermiculite?

Thats weird you guys are having problems. What's your temps? I didn't wash my vermiculite either that would be pretty hard (or perlite). I pH my water at 5.7 and the most it will be in the morning is. 5.9-6.0.

 

[tiptopper]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

Just a thought. Since this is a new method and there are many variables yet undiscovered as far as feeding goes you might likely want to try a few different p.h. ranges to get the res. dialed in properly. My thought would be that the perlite/vermiculite combo would be wicking up nutes as well as water when watering and this would change the p.h. of the res. as the nute/water solution is channeled down into the res. For example when plants take nutes out of water ur p.h. rises correct? So if ur medium does the same wouldn't ur res. water end up a higher p.h. than what u initially poured in? I could be wrong but u might want to try feeding at a lower p.h. just to see if this could be causing ur upward drift in the res. 12/12 is the man and I dont want to step on feet, but as was stated this is an experiment. So u must experiment to see what works best. 12/12 started it but u are relied on to finish it. He has given all a jump start on this new path but without further exploration its full potential may not be relized. Just a thought...

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

Just a thought. Since this is a new method and there are many variables yet undiscovered as far as feeding goes you might likely want to try a few different p.h. ranges to get the res. dialed in properly. My thought would be that the perlite/vermiculite combo would be wicking up nutes as well as water when watering and this would change the p.h. of the res. as the nute/water solution is channeled down into the res. For example when plants take nutes out of water ur p.h. rises correct? So if ur medium does the same wouldn't ur res. water end up a higher p.h. than what u initially poured in? I could be wrong but u might want to try feeding at a lower p.h. just to see if this could be causing ur upward drift in the res. 12/12 is the man and I dont want to step on feet, but as was stated this is an experiment. So u must experiment to see what works best. 12/12 started it but u are relied on to finish it. He has given all a jump start on this new path but without further exploration its full potential may not be relized. Just a thought...

I think you might be on to somethings here... I pH my water to 5.2- 5.3 to get it to come out 6.5 out the bottom, then it drifts up to 6.8 by 24 hrs when I pour through again. Since these are such small reservoirs, the nutes are probably being slurped up more quickly (as a ratio of total nutes per volume of water) so that the pH rises faster if they're eating more than they drink? And it's amplified by the small res?

Thats weird you guys are having problems. What's your temps? I didn't wash my vermiculite either that would be pretty hard (or perlite). I pH my water at 5.7 and the most it will be in the morning is. 5.9-6.0.

Temps are high, 77 or so (have not tested the water, but the room is 75-84) How are you keeping your 2L temps down?

hey man i am having the same problem with pH in my 2L Hempy DWC Perlite/vermiculite 75/25. My water is pH'd at 5.8 but when i drain the reservoir and test the pH its up at 7.0

And no i didn't wash my medium but how am i suppose to wash little grains of vermiculite?

I think the rinsing was more for the Coco medium, since it *used to* ship with lots o' salt in the blocks. But, I believe you're supposed to flush the medium once a week when you dump the res?

 

[tiptopper]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

The only problem that I can forsee with this method is maintaining the p.h. between the medium and the res. It is apparant that it can be done as 12/12 did it but If I am correct he was only maybe 4 1/2 weeks in when he stopped. I guess it all depends on where the plant is uptaking the bulk of its nute source from and it seems that it would be from the res. So I am assuming as long as the res. p.h. is stable that feeding in at p.h. as low as 5.2-5.3 wont effect uptake of nutes as long res. is within reasonable range. I am almost certain tho that there will be a different p.h. requirement between different mediums, such as between coco and verm./perlite for the res. to be stable. I will do an experiment soon to see what are the different p.h.'s in res. of coco vs. verm./perlite when fed at the same nute strength and same p.h. That should be interesting to see what p.h. comes out at. I will do this without any plants using r/o water to keep things simple. I will also do this over a 2 week period as if plants where in medium including flushes and everyother day feedings. like I said, should be interesting to see ph levels, and ppm levels.

 

[teSmp]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

I placed aluminum tape around my 2L's and I have an air cooled hood. My temps are usually around 79 (sometimes higher) now that outdoor temps are in the mid 80's, gotta run the a/c soon. My pH is dead on 5.8 and I haven't changed anything or used pH up since I changed the res Wednesday. I've just continued to add water up to the holes each day.

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

The only problem that I can forsee with this method is maintaining the p.h. between the medium and the res. It is apparant that it can be done as 12/12 did it but If I am correct he was only maybe 4 1/2 weeks in when he stopped. I guess it all depends on where the plant is uptaking the bulk of its nute source from and it seems that it would be from the res. So I am assuming as long as the res. p.h. is stable that feeding in at p.h. as low as 5.2-5.3 wont effect uptake of nutes as long res. is within reasonable range. I am almost certain tho that there will be a different p.h. requirement between different mediums, such as between coco and verm./perlite for the res. to be stable. I will do an experiment soon to see what are the different p.h.'s in res. of coco vs. verm./perlite when fed at the same nute strength and same p.h. That should be interesting to see what p.h. comes out at. I will do this without any plants using r/o water to keep things simple. I will also do this over a 2 week period as if plants where in medium including flushes and everyother day feedings. like I said, should be interesting to see ph levels, and ppm levels.

Awesome. Thanks for doing a control experiment. I'd like to see what you come up with.. My first pour throughs with coco bumped the pH up more than a point-- even when it was pouring through clear (plain water in and out) Looking forward to your results/analysis.

I placed aluminum tape around my 2L's and I have an air cooled hood. My temps are usually around 79 (sometimes higher) now that outdoor temps are in the mid 80's, gotta run the a/c soon. My pH is dead on 5.8 and I haven't changed anything or used pH up since I changed the res Wednesday. I've just continued to add water up to the holes each day.

Hmm, I've got some aluminum tape. I don't have a hood, but using t8 flouros too. Summer is coming, but I'm running my lights at night to help control the temps. I'm trying to avoid buying an A/C, but it may be unavoidable. When you say add water up to the holes-- is that plain water or with nutes?

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

LST, DEFOL, a bubbler works!

LST'd the rest of the 2L's that could handle it.
Northern Lights 1 cut a fan leaf out of the way.. tucking wasn't cutting it.

Bubble Gum 2 Bend over.

Bubble Gum 1

BigBud 3 this was the one that seemed farthest along a while ago, has lot's o nodes, but all leaves are skinny and smaller than the rest of the plants.

BigBud2 This is my most vigorous baby. I snipped a fan leaf out of the way to let light in to the side branches...

I really didn't want to trim any fan leaves, but when I was LST'ing a fan leaf out of the way yesterday, I ended up breaking it, then it just sat there and slowly died, and no doubt sucked energy from the plant that could have been used better elsewhere. I opted to selectively remove one leaf from three plants, and bent away everything else I could.

Nutes still at 1350, no sign of burn. pH going in is 4.9, coming out at 5.8

The BigBud2 has had an airstone in it for about 24hrs, since it was the only plant with large roots in the res. It is now exploding.

 

[CronicHempHog]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

very nice

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

TY

 

[tiptopper]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

1350 seems high as hell for those little girls! What ppm are u going to using in flower? I would like to know what ur res. reads after a pure water flush. Dont push them to hard brave soilder. I always error on the side of caution I guess. My veg. girls rarely ever recieved over 800 and they were 3 months old sitting under a 400.

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

It kind of happened almost by accident. I fed them 2x what I meant to, and they liked it so I kept going. I guess I could dilute it to 1/2, but I'll do a pure water flush today and take a reading and post it w/ some photos. I am going to be away from my grow for a couple weeks, so I don't want mom to have to deal with over fert burn. Thanks for the tip/suggestion tiptopper.

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

Hmm pour through with 5.6 pH water at ppm 096 came out at 6.5 at 1160 ppm
I'm going to water with pH water for a week then start feeding again.
thoughts?
suggestions?

 

[OldMedMan]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

I found you again! .......I don't understand most of what your doing, but I will be here looking in

 

[JuicySoil]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

im having same issues. Poured trough ph 6.0 @1100 ppm came out 6.4 @ppm1358 i think it where. Big homie Tiptopper pointet out that they might not need all them nutes, those fine dames just yet, and thats why they are not used up but flushed trough. Good point, i think ges spot on making that judgement. Ive, of today personally lowered my ph too 5.4 going inn and a str8 flush, no nutes. I think ph building slowly up if not all premix are getting replaced with every feeding. As for now keep ph a little low going inn when feeding next couple of feedings..

 

[tiptopper]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

That is a really high ppm coming out for a pure water flush. Seems like they are not using much of that u are putting in. Was ur res. pretty much empty when u did the flush or was there already nutes in res. when u did it? I have a theory that the lighting that you are using isn't made for such a high ppm. If ur plants are looking ok that is a good thing but u could be around the corner from problems if you continue to feed them such a high ppm. I wouldn't suggest only water for a week. But u might want to flush 1 more time then kick the feeding down to around 800 so u dont get any distress calls from good ol mom. Alot of salt can build up in few weeks. Also if you are using r/o water try to flush with some calmg. if you have any so you dont run into any problems with your coco. But u did say that your flush ppm was 96 ppm so I will assume that your are using tap of some sort. In that case u may be ok.

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

Hey OMM, glad you're back following again@! Hopefully I'm growing healthy greeneries

 

[SurfBuddy]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

im having same issues. Poured trough ph 6.0 @1100 ppm came out 6.4 @ppm1358 i think it where. Big homie Tiptopper pointet out that they might not need all them nutes, those fine dames just yet, and thats why they are not used up but flushed trough. Good point, i think ges spot on making that judgement. Ive, of today personally lowered my ph too 5.4 going inn and a str8 flush, no nutes. I think ph building slowly up if not all premix are getting replaced with every feeding. As for now keep ph a little low going inn when feeding next couple of feedings..

Hmm yours sounds even worse, I pour mine through at 1350 and comes out 1100. or I pour through 096 and it comes out 1100
The one that I did the flush on feels really crispy in the leaves today. That does concern me... I have to dig up the def chart again to figure out what that is unless you all know? Leaves do look curled down, and upon closer inspection, it looks like something might be eating them? Sounds like it may be #11 of nut disorder, but there is no yellow:11) Leaves are light green or yellow beginning at the base, while the leaf margins remain green. Necrotic spots may be between veins. Leaves are not twisted. >> Manganese (Mn) deficiency. twelve12?
leaf from below

holes in the leaf

The crispy top

That is a really high ppm coming out for a pure water flush. Seems like they are not using much of that u are putting in. Was ur res. pretty much empty when u did the flush or was there already nutes in res. when u did it? I have a theory that the lighting that you are using isn't made for such a high ppm. If ur plants are looking ok that is a good thing but u could be around the corner from problems if you continue to feed them such a high ppm. I wouldn't suggest only water for a week. But u might want to flush 1 more time then kick the feeding down to around 800 so u dont get any distress calls from good ol mom. Alot of salt can build up in few weeks. Also if you are using r/o water try to flush with some calmg. if you have any so you dont run into any problems with your coco. But u did say that your flush ppm was 96 ppm so I will assume that your are using tap of some sort. In that case u may be ok.

Res was empty, I poured it out just for the flush, then poured through about 15 oz water into the res.
Plants are ok, but seeming crispy? see photos.
I can dilute the rest of the mix down to 1/2 strength.
Maybe I'll just have her flush for a couple of days then.
Not using R/O water, just tap.
I'm getting on a plane soon, so any help is appreciated!

 

[tiptopper]

Re: Surfbuddy's GLR 2L DWC-H Coco Lowryder, Big Bud, BubbleGum, Northern Lights

Salt buildup in medium may have been the culprit. The spotting on ur leaves looks like calcium to me. Coco is known for causing this and if you have had a build up in your coco that could be locking out the calcium from being absorded. The look of your plant tells me that this did not happen over night but has been gradually building up to this point. The only thing that I could really reccommend is flushing out till you get to a lower ppm reading then on last flush feed at lower strength and make sure the ph is in check. Did I read a couple post back that u have been setting ur ph to a lower number? maybe u should go back to the higher ph range and not worry so much about ur res. ph for now. Primarily I would say the high feedings have cause this. Flush, lower feed, and maybe raise the ph to between 5.5 and 6. Hope this helps.