Stage 4 Lung Cancer

Hi zippo,

You will learn what I'm talking about when you experience it zippo. So you can understand I'll explain in a little more detail. When you tack the concentrate to your gum it guarantee's no euphoric. The tacking has to be achieved first. As you build up in your dose sizes there is no way you can get all the oil to tack on your gums, its impossible. But if you tack first (important) the rest of the oil (majority) drains down to your stomach. In 420 Magazine dosing tutorial I recommend tacking in a few spots, this is to INSURE the oil is taken properly, and not to have the person get euphoric. I'm not talking about smoking a top shelf joint coming in at 27% THC, I'm talking about a concentrate that would be like putting 90 + % of THC in one joint. So why would you want to digest the oil without tacking first when in reality your only getting a small amount to the CB1 receptors and the rest is ingested to the stomach? Your brain is your CPU and it controls the show. You will learn this soon enough. You also have to understand that people who do TV show's etc know how to word things differently so it can be shown to the public. Unfortunately in doing so people get confused on what to believe and only ones with experience can read in between the lines. That is why it is important for people who heals themselves and gain experience can pass on their testimony so others will learn. The difference between digesting and tacking the concentrate is compared to a VW and a RR. I've experimented extensively between the two methods to see the difference and have taken notes from others and the conclusion always come up the same, digesting the concentrate: pain control, many other aliments, and wellness are present. Tacking/gum method they go away. So to your question. Tacking doesn't prevent the concentrate going to your stomach, it controls how, were the concentrate goes to heal/cure. You will find this method AMAZING in all it does. Scientist will be mind boggled in their research on how it does so much. Thing is that will take years and years and years. In the meantime lets save people's lives. Hope this explained it better zippo. You will be verifying this soon. Caution though, tacking you feel almost nothing for the 1st week or so. Most people think, whut? Think their product is bunk and swallow. Most likely you will do this also. Please make sure you are in a safe environment, get a space suit on and prepare for some planet exploration. I sincerely hope you don't waste your precious concentrate.

Final mention: A lot of people are in the media highlight concerning MJ/Concentrates. How many of them have even tried the cannabis concentrated oil to heal an illness? I know a lot of growers, people who are in activist groups, who have been doing this a long time and know nothing of what I speak. In fact I always get this response " I've been around MJ all my life and know many others who have for years and years, how come I never heard of this?". Perhaps it is because they haven't used the oil concentrate the correct way because they didn't get high and thought it was BS. Perhaps they haven't taken the concentrate for over two years and done extensive testing on what actually kills the cancer cells, what really takes care of pain and inflammation, how to treat different disorders, what blends for the persons need while healing and everything the concentrate can replace instead of man made meds. I learned before I spoke to insure 420 Magazine had someone that would give correct awareness to those seeking to heal themselves when other options have ran out. I will stand toe to toe with anyone disputing what I have learned. It is just not my use, but my wifes, and many friends. It is our mission to spread awareness with correct information so the confusion ends and the healing begins. I get it from all sides Brother. It doesn't make a difference on my mission. Call me what you want, I'm about helping the ill, giving them correct information so they can achieve this in a safe, correct manner. Certainly no fame or fortune for me and if so I wouldn't have the fortune because my priority would be to have the biggest wellness/healing center in the world to help others. I certainly don't need fame because I'm not built that way. I'm just a normal person trying to eek their way through life like everybody else. I treated my employees with respect and profit shared for over 30 years before I even knew about the concentrate. I'm a giver even when their is nothing to give. Best quality a person can have beside their faith. It is not about ME. My wife, children are all the same way, just wanting to help others and it starts with faith and love for all humans and living things. Greed and money are for those who need it. Ironically the whole family wants to work at the 'wellness' center :). How cool would that be.

Thanks for the clarification Motoco. I'm about 2 weeks away from trying the oil the first time and I am sure I'll have to ask few more questions to make sure I am doing it right, but for now I only have one question - you said only a small amount stick to the gum and the rest is swallowed. Is it the small amount that gets absorbed through the gums that prevents the stuff going to the stomach from giving you euphoria?
 
I finally got my oil and need some help with the correct way to do tacking. I followed motoco's tacking instructions yesterday and the day before but I guess I did not do this correctly since I became euphoric both times. Following the instructions, I placed a 1/4 grain size of oil on my finger, flattened it out and then pressed it against my gum and held it there for some time. Repeated this 4 times for a dose of 1 rice grain. Maybe I had too much oil on my finger to begin with because I could taste oil in my mouth afterwards which I then swallowed. Am I correct in assuming that the idea is to have only sufficient oil on your finger so it all transfers to the gum without leaving anything in your mouth to swallow? For larger doses where its impossible to tag it all to the gum - do I tag first, wait 10 minutes and then swallow the rest?
 
Hi zippo,

Glad you have your oil and you can start your healing. Checking the concentrate to see if its good passed the test. While reading the 'tacking' method remember it has to stick to your gum before proceeding. When pressing the oil to your gum make sure you have some pressure applied and in very short strokes (barley moving) rub back and forth or in a very small circle. Also remember to pull your finger out and see where the oil has moved and apply that to the same area until it 'sticks' to the gum. Your absolutely correct on the amount of oil on your finger. Small amounts are easier to handle and all gets on the gum (this is key). Leave on for at least ten minutes (times are a guideline and vary from person to person). Starting off, ten minutes should be fine and once you master the 'tack' technique it becomes much easier. On small and larger doses (friendly reminder, build up first per dosing instructions) it is important that your tacks have been done correctly, absorbed through the gums to the CB1 receptors. If need be wait 15 minutes (ambient temperature can dictate longer times if it is cooler). The bitter taste of the concentrate will create saliva (especially when first starting). Until you get used to tacking correctly when the saliva builds up gently spit it out to insure you do not swallow any oil before it gets to the CB1 receptors. Quick review; small amounts (1/8 of a grain of rice or smaller) insures all will get on the gums and much easier to handle. Do not proceed unless the oil is on your gums. Spit out the saliva instead of digesting (this will improve with time as you get used to the bitter taste). Even after you tack in multiple spots with smaller amounts when increasing your dosage take the larger amount and still try to get it all off on your tack spots. You will learn once these tack spots build up on your gum the oil comes off much easier. I've found out most folks seem to tack easily and some do not. Just be patient as instructions no matter how well explained, need some finesse, (touch if you will). I had the same issue when 1st starting. I think I overtired more out of frustration. Once I started relaxing and quit trying to force application's it became much easier. Basic strategies; keep the concentrate on your lower gum until it absorbs in your gums. Most instructions give the jest to place in between your gum and cheek (like chewing tobacco). You accidentally swallow that and the euphoric can be stout. When tacking it insures keeping the oil on the gums for a longer time much easier. Your euphoria could of been worse going straight down the hatch. Hope this helps and make sure to relax, take your time, be patient and soon you will have it mastered. Any more questions, please ask.
 
Make sure to always eat first (regular meals) then dose. Please pay attention to any nausea or hungry feeling. Eat something light (vanilla wafer, cracker & water). Also keep in mind at first toxins will be flushing out. If still feeling nausea from the toxins after eating/hydrating take a small booster of oil after rinsing your mouth with water. Any problems, just ask. Your on your way Brother.
 
Hey zippo, wish you the best road to recovery my friend. My mom was recently diagnosed with lung cancer stage 4 as well, desperately looking for ways to save her. I think i have read on one of the posts you are from the east coast. I am too, was wondering how you went about in getting this oil. I don't have a medical card so not sure how i could get it from a dispensary.
 
Go to Washington state. Get a P.O. Box, then use the Post Office's address for a WA Driver's License the day you arrive. That same day, with your temporary License, go to a physician to write you a Medical Cannabis recommendation. Still the same day, go to one of the many, many medical dispensaries that sells RSO cheaper than anywhere else in the country. You can search Weed-Maps and Leafly to look at every dispensary's menu online so you don't have to call around.

In one day you can have everything that you need to heal yourself at the lowest cost possible. This is my one and only recommendation.

You are in my thoughts, and please keep us updated every step of the way.

:high-five: :love: :circle-of-love: :green_heart:
 
Yes I am on the east coast and more or less followed the same procedure OnlyOrganic describes below except that I used a friends address to apply for temporary California ID card. Even though they only mail the ID card after about 2 weeks, there a some physicians in Oakland that only do prescriptions for Medical Cannabis and will give you a prescription with a temporary ID card.
I do believe I got high quality oil but unfortunately it did not work for me at all. Over the last six months the number of tumors in my lungs and abdomen increased from 3 to 12 and some with some of them growing up to 9 inches long over the six month period. One can argue that the tumors grow during the first 4 months when I was not taking any oil and maybe they did not grow during the 2 months I was on the oil. However, I can actually feel the 3 tumors I have in my liver and the bump kept getting larger all the time I was on the oil.
Unfortunately I am running out of time since there is a strong possibility that my liver will stop functioning in the next month or two, so I am sort of "forced" to start chemo next week.
 
I spoke to a dispensary in CA that says the oil they sell is lab tested to ensure the right strength but they charge is 7K for 60g - is this realistic?
If you head to Washington state there are dispensaries that sell it for almost half that much. GreenLink Collective is $70/gram, which comes to $4,200 instead of the $7k you were quoted. And you never know, if you purchase enough you could get a bulk discount and pay even less. :)
 
Yes I am on the east coast and more or less followed the same procedure OnlyOrganic describes below except that I used a friends address to apply for temporary California ID card. Even though they only mail the ID card after about 2 weeks, there a some physicians in Oakland that only do prescriptions for Medical Cannabis and will give you a prescription with a temporary ID card.
I do believe I got high quality oil but unfortunately it did not work for me at all. Over the last six months the number of tumors in my lungs and abdomen increased from 3 to 12 and some with some of them growing up to 9 inches long over the six month period. One can argue that the tumors grow during the first 4 months when I was not taking any oil and maybe they did not grow during the 2 months I was on the oil. However, I can actually feel the 3 tumors I have in my liver and the bump kept getting larger all the time I was on the oil.
Unfortunately I am running out of time since there is a strong possibility that my liver will stop functioning in the next month or two, so I am sort of "forced" to start chemo next week.

I am so sorry to hear this, couldn't help but shed tears after reading this. I have developed some serious depression because of my moms cancer. This is one hell of a road that were on. I pray for you and whoever is in your life helping you deal with this. Its takes a huge toll on everyone. I know what you/your loved ones are going through and its absolute fucking hell. Wouldn't wish this on anyone.

As far as the cannabis oil goes, will you keep doing it? I will have my mom finish this line of chemo she started and put her on the oil as well. I doubt cannabis oil would cause any complications with the chemo.


If you ever need anyone to talk to feel more than welcome to PM me. Wish you the best, and please never give up. Make your loved ones proud you put up the best fight you can. I have to stop now because i can't control my tears :(
 
Hi zippo,

If you have some oil left I would strongly recommend using it during chemo. Just never seen cancer spread after 2 months of using the oil, only seen it get better. Puzzling to say the least. I would keep the oil flowing, if you stop the cancer spreads faster. You did tack the whole time right?
 
Thanks for the kind words and yes - this is a difficult road to walk for both the patient as well as family members. I finished all the oil I purchased and given the result I don't really intend going back to CA to purchase any more. What type of lung cancer does you mom have - small cell or non-small cell. Mine is small cell which tends to be particularly aggressive. Since I have mild COPD, I always had some wheezing in my lungs but since I started taking the oil, this went away and is still gone. The lung specialist attributes this to the anti-inflammatory properties of THC /CBD.

Likewise, I wish your mom as well as you and your family all the best in dealing with this. Let me know from time to time how she is doing and also if she is having any success with the oil. Unfortunately I don't have enough posts to PM you.
 
Thanks for the info zippo. You have some aggressive cancer. Sad you got to go all the way to Cali for meds. Laws suck. Just hope the very best for you zippo. Any questions I can help you with let me know and God Bless!

Yes, I tacked the whole time.
 
I'd also try raw Cannabis as well. Honestly, in any form, the more Cannabis you continue to consume, the stronger your body will be able to fight off disease. Never stop consuming, and continue being brave. :high-five: :love: :green_heart:
 
Thanks for the kind words and yes - this is a difficult road to walk for both the patient as well as family members. I finished all the oil I purchased and given the result I don't really intend going back to CA to purchase any more. What type of lung cancer does you mom have - small cell or non-small cell. Mine is small cell which tends to be particularly aggressive. Since I have mild COPD, I always had some wheezing in my lungs but since I started taking the oil, this went away and is still gone. The lung specialist attributes this to the anti-inflammatory properties of THC /CBD.

Likewise, I wish your mom as well as you and your family all the best in dealing with this. Let me know from time to time how she is doing and also if she is having any success with the oil. Unfortunately I don't have enough posts to PM you.

She has stage 4 non small cell lung cancer. Doctors say its very aggressive as well. At this point i think every cancer is aggressive no matter what stage or type. Thank you for your good wishes and you as well keep us updated on your status. At this point my mom is still doing chemo, this is something that is her decision and to be honest i have no idea if it is a good idea or not. Chemo is a poison, but no doubt it does help as well as harm. Its a very hard choice to quit it completely or refuse it and just do alternative treatment. This decision i will leave up to her.

From all the research i have done here is what we are doing and what makes sense to us.
Chemo
Cannabis oil
Raw foods diet, little to no meat, only fruits and raw vegies and plenty of juicing
I hope its ok for me to say this here on this forum but we do apricot seeds(vit b17)
As well as all the supplements to make this vitamin work at its full potential

Take some time to research this vitamin and youtube it as well. I will leave it up to you to decide if you think its bs or not. We are at a point where we are trying everything that we can think of that won't cause harm. After all, all it is, is just a seed. Came from a fruit from the ground just like cannabis did.

Just like with everything out here there are people who swear it works and people who swear it doesn't. Take some time to research it to see if you are willing to try it or not.
 
I won't sugar coat it - chemo is bad in every way but the good news is that the oil still works, just takes longer so please stay the course. Also, many of us have followed other protocols in addition to the oil including gerson etc. but I firmly believe the oil is the #1 factor in healing so I keep the oil as my first priority and consider everything else a bonus towards healthy lifestyle.
 
From all the research i have done here is what we are doing and what makes sense to us.
Chemo
Cannabis oil
Raw foods diet, little to no meat, only fruits and raw vegies and plenty of juicing
I hope its ok for me to say this here on this forum but we do apricot seeds(vit b17)
As well as all the supplements to make this vitamin work at its full potential
Everything outside of chemo sounds like a terrific plan. Just know that chemo will prevent the other aspects of treatment from working as well as possible.

I can attest to a 100% raw food diet. I've been consuming strictly fresh/living fruits/vegetables for around 6 months, and I now have zero health problems (compared to just 1 year ago having several big problems). Living foods allow our bodies to heal themselves, and coupling that with Cannabis is really the healthiest lifestyle I've been able to accomplish. I personally recommend zero animal products, as they are all highly inflammatory (inflammation is cancer's friend).

Also for ideal well-being and healing, I highly recommend meditation, along with lots of walking and stretching.

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I declined chemo for 6 months and concentrated on sourcing some oil and using it. Unfortunately when I went for CT scan after the first 6 months (the last 2 months on oil) it came as a shock to hear I now have 12 tumors, some as large as 9cm. The most serious of these are 3 tumors I have on my liver which has already caused 6 different parameters of my blood to go way-off normal. I really thought long and hard about taking the chemo but for now this seems to be the only way to try reduce the size of some of these. I not ready to give up yet and will be looking at other alternate treatments / diets etc. as soon as possible.

On a side note, I also spoke to 2 other people I know in the last day or two that was / is on the oil. The one lady has pancreatic cancer that spread to her lymph nodes and after taking the oil, her cancer is now in remission. The other lady has lung cancer that has not yet spread outside of the lungs. After 2 months on oil, all the small tumors have gone but the larger ones for some reason kept growing and as far as I can tell she is going to go on another round of oil treatment.

I've also heard of the apricot seed and also saw something on the internet a while ago that there is a specific type of lemon grass that grows in Israel that has anti-cancer properties like the oils does. I also heard from a friend in Finland that there is s specific type of fungus people in the Balkans and Russia brew like tea that supposedly has anti-cancer properties - I forgot the name but if anyone is interested, I can ask my friend again. R.A. Bloch Cancer Foundation | R. A. Bloch Cancer Foundation also provides a lot of information for people diagnosed with cancer.
 
You do whatever it is you think is best, and know that we'll always be here for support!

Continue being as brave, confident, and healthy as possible. And positivity trumps all!

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