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FriarTuck
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no worries masonman. any info i can get is better than what i know, i know nothing!!! thank you thank you!!!
Sour Grape Kush feminized monster clone
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so sorry, i got hella-medicated yesterday and unable to update my sour grape kush feminized. so here she is!!!
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here she is, she bounced right back up!!! thank you again masonman and major pita
the picture below, most of my new leaves are curled up on its jagged edges, she looks mad, and very green!!! is this normal? if not what does this mean?
the picture below, most of my new leaves are curled up on its jagged edges, she looks mad, and very green!!! is this normal? if not what does this mean?
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She's looking great now. Good job! 
You're gonna be real happy at harvest...
You're gonna be real happy at harvest...
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also i've been reading up on the thread started year 2011 about ph, i only confused myself. the one youtube that i've been following in the last three years is 6.8. isn't neutral is 7? is the entire idea is to have just a lil bit acidic? what if its at 8 or 9 or 14? my grow tent i keep 68-77 deg f. humidity 40-60. why are all this important to the plant?
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thank you masonman. so what's up with her leaves curling up? it's the last picture i posted.
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Different nutrients become "locked out" at different PHs. Hydro and soil plants create different kinds of roots. Hydro needs PH to be at a certain range to make all nutes available. Soil is same way, but needs a different PH range. Most soil has plenty of lime in in to buffer the PH making adjusting PH of water not necessary. I never PH my water. Never have, never will.
Do a google search on "plant transpiration". Doesn't have to be cannabis related. But, temp/RH will influence the stomata opening and closing. Gasses (CO2 and O2) and water vapors are exchanged with the surrounding atmosphere through the stoma.
I'm not versed enough to explain it myself, sorry. Interesting and helpful reading though.
Mine have done that. Yeah, "angry" is as good a word as any to describe that. I honestly don't know if it is normal or not because my plant was stressed from another problem when I noticed it. It may have been related or not.
Curling edges can be from a few things. Most often it is heat stress. But when they get that saw toothed loo to them I start thinking it could be a Mag deficiency. She looks great. You might try some Cal/Mag to see if it helps, but it is fine just as she is, IMO.
7 PH is neutral. The usual recommendations are about 6.3 - 6.5 in soil and about 5.8 in hydro. I think you can do well in that range. But when you mention 8, 9, or 24, you're looking at nutrients that will not be absorbed well, if at all.
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I actually bought a gallon general hydroponics calimagic but haven't put it to use since the fox farm trio has cal mag in it. I know I asked about this before but I'm afraid to cook her(of that is even the case) if I gave her too much calmag. What is calmag, what is its importance in growing mmj?
That thread I was reading up on has a chart of ph and elements as well.
It just seems that the more I search for info, the confuser I get. What's your experience in temp and humidity control?
Thank you thank you
That thread I was reading up on has a chart of ph and elements as well.
It just seems that the more I search for info, the confuser I get. What's your experience in temp and humidity control?
Thank you thank you
I'm no expert, but I don't believe you can "cook" a plant with CalMag. You can lock out other minerals, like 'K' with too much 'Ca'. I also believe CalMag is probably the most incorrectly diagnosed and over used nute'. One reason is, it rarely causes problems so growers (including me) use it in hopes it will fix a problem. A gallon is a lot! A quart lasted me for two years. Go with your gut. Even if you are wrong, you will learn and your plant looks great.
My general rule for heat and humidity is, the higher the temp, the higher the RH.
If I had the perfect environment, during veg, I'd try for 78 F with 70% RH when lights are on and 68 F and 60% RH when lights are off. Depending on the bud density, once in bloom, I'd lower temps by about 5 F and RH by about 25%. This assumes no CO2 suppliment.
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thank you spitz... limping is better than none at all, I'm sure she pulled it thru with her nice bud!!! my last one i crawled, my first hydro experiment. i didn't know that water temp was crucial 66-69 deg f at all times?!?! mine was getting up to 90 halfway thru flower ughrrrrr!!! i cant afford water cooling system!!! she made it though 38.16g and weighing after a week after i cut her down. she was all good till sixth week into flower then just started dying fast. oh man i was sad!!! question, what is normal yield for an beginner grower? is 38.16g a lot or can i expect a whole pound in one plant?
I shoot for 56 grams (2 oz.) per square foot of grow space. You can easily get more, but for a beginning grower that's the target I'd aim at. I don't care if it is one bigger plant or several small plants. It all comes down to how much space and light you have.
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thank you masonman and major pita... what is "lock out"? yeah amazon has calimagic $15 for a quart and $40 for a gallon. i'll be glad to share my calimagic to yall's!!! doses, do you follow the instructions as in 2 tsp per gallon or yall's do more or less? man that temp and humidity just really now got confuser!!! i didn't know that even the lights are off or during the diff stages of grow has specified values of temp and humid?!?!? ayayayayay!!! i only have a window air-conditioning not a laboratory grade environmentally controlled grow!!! haha!!! i use fox farm ocean forest soil. is this actually soil? is this organic? when i reuse my soil, i'm assuming i'll have to use nutrients as in the fox farm trio as scheduled on their chart?
I don't use Calimagic unless I think the plant needs it.
I think you'll find the recommendation is 1 tsp. per gallon. I usually cut that amount in half, adding 1 tsp. per 2 gallons. Your soil or bottled nute's should already have you pretty well covered.
I think you'll find the recommendation is 1 tsp. per gallon. I usually cut that amount in half, adding 1 tsp. per 2 gallons. Your soil or bottled nute's should already have you pretty well covered.
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Understanding the relationship between plant and temp/RH can get complicated. People get doctorates in botany and still there are mysteries.
For our purposes, we can keep it very simple though. Cannabis will grow well in a range of temps. Read enough journals and you'll see different growers running at different temps with great success. Same with relative humidity. The most successful have control over the temps and humidity. With experience, they can see the needs of the plant and adjust accordingly.
"lock out" is when a nutrient is no longer available to the plant because of problems with PH, temps, or other nutrients blocking them. The plant will show a deficiency in that nutrient, and the trap is assuming the plant needs more of that nutrient when it's already there.
For our purposes, we can keep it very simple though. Cannabis will grow well in a range of temps. Read enough journals and you'll see different growers running at different temps with great success. Same with relative humidity. The most successful have control over the temps and humidity. With experience, they can see the needs of the plant and adjust accordingly.
"lock out" is when a nutrient is no longer available to the plant because of problems with PH, temps, or other nutrients blocking them. The plant will show a deficiency in that nutrient, and the trap is assuming the plant needs more of that nutrient when it's already there.
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FriarTuck
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Is Epsom salt calmag? If so how much dose per gallon? Thank you.
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It's magnesium and sulfur. I have no idea how much you would add. I only add it once in the third week of bloom. Top dressed into the soil and watered in. Just a couple tablespoons.
If you think you need Epsom, I'd try 1 tablespoon per gallon of water. You can always add more, but it is tough to take it back out. 
You'll add Mg, but no Ca.
You'll add Mg, but no Ca.
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FriarTuck
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so you're saying calmag is not exactly the same as epsom salt? epson salt is magnesium and sulfur? calmag is calcium magnesium? is calmag the same as calimagik?
