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APNewsBreak: Effort building to change US pot laws

Feb 4, 4:26 PM (ET)

By GENE JOHNSON

SEATTLE (AP) - An effort is building in Congress to change U.S. marijuana laws, including moves to legalize the industrial production of hemp and establish a hefty federal pot tax.

While passage this year could be a longshot, lawmakers from both parties have been quietly working on several bills, the first of which Democratic Reps. Earl Blumenauer of Oregon and Jared Polis of Colorado plan to introduce Tuesday, Blumenauer told The Associated Press.

Polis' measure would regulate marijuana the way the federal government handles alcohol: In states that legalize pot, growers would have to obtain a federal permit. Oversight of marijuana would be removed from the Drug Enforcement Administration and given to the newly renamed Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Marijuana and Firearms, and it would remain illegal to bring marijuana from a state where it's legal to one where it isn't.

The bill is based on a legalization measure previously pushed by former Reps. Barney Frank of Massachusetts and Ron Paul of Texas.

Blumenauer's bill would create a federal marijuana excise tax of 50 percent on the "first sale" of marijuana - typically, from a grower to a processor or retailer. It also would tax pot producers or importers $1,000 annually and other marijuana businesses $500.

His office said Monday it doesn't yet have an estimate of how much the taxes might bring in. But a policy paper Blumenauer and Polis are releasing this week suggests, based on admittedly vague estimates, that a federal tax of $50 per ounce could raise $20 billion a year. They call for directing the money to law enforcement, substance abuse treatment and the national debt.

Last fall's votes in Colorado and Washington state to legalize recreational marijuana should push Congress to end the 75-year federal pot prohibition, Blumenauer said.

Washington state officials have estimated that its legal marijuana market could bring in about half a billion dollars a year in state taxes.

"You folks in Washington and my friends in Colorado really upset the apple cart," Blumenauer said. "We're still arresting two-thirds of a million people for use of a substance that a majority feel should be legal. ... It's past time for us to step in and try to sort this stuff out."

Advocates who are working with the lawmakers acknowledge it could take years for any changes to get through Congress, but they're encouraged by recent developments. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell last week came out in support of efforts to legalize hemp in his home state of Kentucky, and U.S. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., is expected to introduce legislation allowing states to set their own policy on marijuana.

Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., has indicated he plans to hold a hearing on the conflict between state and federal marijuana laws and has urged an end to federal "mandatory minimum" sentences that lead to long prison stints for drug crimes.

"We're seeing enormous political momentum to undo the drug war failings of the past 40 years," said Bill Piper, director of national affairs for the Drug Policy Alliance, who has been working with lawmakers on marijuana-related bills. "For the first time, the wind is behind our back."

The Justice Department hasn't said how it plans to respond to the votes in Washington and Colorado. It could sue to block the states from issuing licenses to marijuana growers, processors and retail stores, on the grounds that doing so would conflict with federal drug law.

Blumenauer and Polis' paper urges a number of changes, including altering tax codes to let marijuana dispensaries deduct business expenses on federal taxes, and making it easier for marijuana-related businesses to get bank accounts. Many operate on a cash basis because federally insured banks won't work with them, they noted.

Blumenauer said he expects to introduce the tax-code legislation as well as a bill that would reschedule marijuana under the Controlled Substances Act, allowing states to enact medical marijuana laws without fear that federal authorities will continue raiding dispensaries or prosecuting providers. It makes no sense that marijuana is a Schedule I drug, in the same category as heroin and a more restrictive category than cocaine, Blumenauer said.

The measures have little chance of passing, said Kevin Sabet, a former White House drug policy adviser. Sabet recently joined former Rhode Island Rep. Patrick Kennedy and former President George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum in forming a group called Project SAM - for "smart approaches to marijuana" - to counter the growing legalization movement. Sabet noted that previous federal legalization measures have always failed.

"These are really extreme solutions to the marijuana problem we have in this country," Sabet said. "The marijuana problem we have is a problem of addiction among kids, and stigma of people who have a criminal record for marijuana crimes.

"There are a lot more people in Congress who think that marijuana should be illegal but treated as a public health problem, than think it should be legal."

Project SAM suggests people shouldn't get criminal records for small-time marijuana offenses, but instead could face probation or treatment.

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I dont like how they would limit growers and so forth on amounts and such but they receive billions with in a year with no limit. I dont believe not one second that the money they will receive from taxing it will go to anything good. I do say this, unemployment % will drop. That is the only good thing I see coming out of this besides for patients to get there meds with no hassle.
 
Hey Mr Krip

Just found this journal. I scrolled back and read a few pages and it looks like you're in between grows. Are you gonna start another journal or just continue this one? (Sorry but I'm probably not reading through 100 pages hehe)

I'm in it all for the mom's, too. But, I've found that even though I can maintain three mom's, it doesn't leave me enough room to veg as many clones as I like, so I'm gonna TRY (I really don't expect to be successful on this! :) ) to not sprout more than two seeds then take some clones and see what I get. If better than what I'm already growing, I'll let the mom grow out and replace one of the current strains. If not, I'll sprout another seed or two. So, with close to 20 seeds coming, I'm guessing it will be at least a few years before I can get through them all!

I can relate to this! Last November, I ordered 10 each of 6 strains, plus I got another 6(?) strains free. You could always do what I did and pop 9 different strains at once! Yes, it's more difficult, but it's also soooo fun! :)
 
I know ,right? 13 strains for me, I like the challenge, and the variety. :high-five:

13? wow. I will never grow this many strains again. I'm just starting from scratch so wanted to give myself lots of options for mothers. Of course, I'll probably end up with a mother of every friggin seed! Hopefully I'll be able to let a few go over the next year or so :)
 
Hey Mr Krip

Just found this journal. I scrolled back and read a few pages and it looks like you're in between grows. Are you gonna start another journal or just continue this one? (Sorry but I'm probably not reading through 100 pages hehe)



I can relate to this! Last November, I ordered 10 each of 6 strains, plus I got another 6(?) strains free. You could always do what I did and pop 9 different strains at once! Yes, it's more difficult, but it's also soooo fun! :)

Welcome, Hiker! No, I'm not between grows, I still have the same SOG going with the same strains, but since there hasn't been much new to update and I've been quite busy, I just haven't been posting much lately.

I'm gonna post a couple pics in a few minutes, but nothing too special. I'll try to grab a few update pics this weekend, but not sure if I'll have any time! :sorry:

I'm in the middle of some projects that should be finishing in the next few weeks and should have more free time in March when I'll be popping the new strains. Once I decide on the new strains, I'll start a new journal. :Namaste:
 
QUICK UPDATE

I hope everyone is well and had a Happy Valentine's Day! :Love:

I've been "slammed" with work over the last (and next) few weeks, so I haven't even been able to "lurk & like", let alone post anything, and I've been missing all my Bro's here (and Sisters!).

I was just doing some maintenance on the PE bonsai mom before I take a few more clones this weekend. I don't really need any more clones, but she definately needs a trim!

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(How big do they have to get before I can no longer call 'em "Bonsais"?) :rofl:

While I was in there, I figured I snap a pic of the White Widow. I had almost forgotten how long it takes to grow from seed! Anyone who doesn't think cloning is quicker, we need to have a conversation! :)

Anyways...she's nice & healthy, but did a little stretching early, so still looks a little lanky:

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She looks happy, though:

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Happy Harvests!

K
 
Looking good Mr Krip! Good seeing you around. Growing from seed is definitely slower, but I really like the symmetry with plants from seed, and the taproot gives them such solid footing. The OCD in me likes the symmetry I suppose, haha.

Plus, seeds = mystery, always. And... Who doesn't love a good mystery now and then!

Production time? Clones by a landslide.
 
Hey Krip when you get a minute stop by my journal I put up my last update for this grow until I get the new GDP, AFFIE, WHITE URKLE journal up and growing and cant wait till that lil widow baby gets big! Who is she by?

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply, Bro! :sorry:

I did get to your journal a couple of weeks ago and managed to "Like" your post and was just able to revisit and throw you some +REPS for a great job! :welldone:

The White Widow is by Royal Queen and was part of this last order

I ordered a 5-pack of Royal Queen Seeds Royal Caramel, a 3-pack of BlimBurn Seeds Mango, and a single Green Label Seeds White Fruit all for about $85. Along with that order, I'm getting for free (1) DNA Genetics LA Woman, (1) Reserva Privada Sour Kush, (1) Reserva Privada OG Kush #18, (1) Reserva Privada Silver LA, (1) DNA Genetics LA Confidential, (1) DNA Genetics Seeds Stacked Kush, (3) Royal Queen Seeds White Widow, and (1) BlimBurn Seeds Guanabana.
 
Looking good Mr Krip! Good seeing you around. Growing from seed is definitely slower, but I really like the symmetry with plants from seed, and the taproot gives them such solid footing. The OCD in me likes the symmetry I suppose, haha.

Plus, seeds = mystery, always. And... Who doesn't love a good mystery now and then!

Production time? Clones by a landslide.


I totally understand, Brother! In fact, after all this discussion, the OCD in me just popped another seed in a shot glass of water! :)

I figured I try out one of the Royal Caramel seeds. By the time I have to leave, she'll be ready to put into a soil container and should easily survive the 3-4 days I'm gone. I'm more worried about the girls in flower, since the timing of my leaving will make them go a full four days, which I've never done!

Speaking of soil, I need to extend some thanks, Vape! :thanks: & +REPS!

I re-read the article on maintaining Bonsai moms and took your advice and ordered some 3.5" and 4.5" square plastic "deep" containers. They're not that deep, 4.5" & 4.875", but they're deeper than the "standard" 3.5" & 4.5" ones.
 
Hey Mr. Krip. :high-five:

I bet if you entered that PE bonsai mom in the Plant of the month contest, you might win. Hardly anyone enters with post a photo of the entire plant. Really bothers me people win by showing just parts of a plant. My pet peeve.
 
Hey Mr. Krip. :high-five:

I bet if you entered that PE bonsai mom in the Plant of the month contest, you might win. Hardly anyone enters with post a photo of the entire plant. Really bothers me people win by showing just parts of a plant. My pet peeve.

When I was taking photos of my last entry I thought of your pet peeve lol. I tried my best to get the whole plant in the photo just couldn't quite capture the trichomes from that far back so I had to leave the stalk and the planter out.
 
MrKrip I think you have left the bonsai category. dang! what a two litre bush!
 
Hey Mr. Krip. :high-five:

I bet if you entered that PE bonsai mom in the Plant of the month contest, you might win. Hardly anyone enters with post a photo of the entire plant. Really bothers me people win by showing just parts of a plant. My pet peeve.

MrKrip I think you have left the bonsai category. dang! what a two litre bush!

Thanks, Bro's! :thankyou:

I put her back into the "Bonsai" category last night, so now I need two pics just to show her:

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Speaking of a "2-L bush", though...checkout this stalk which is about 1/2" right now:

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Happy Harvests!

K
 
I re-read the article on maintaining Bonsai moms and took your advice and ordered some 3.5" and 4.5" square plastic "deep" containers. They're not that deep, 4.5" & 4.875", but they're deeper than the "standard" 3.5" & 4.5" ones.

I always thought a plants shape emulated the container, ie a wider pot led to a wider plant, a deeper pot helped create a taller plant, etc.
 
I always thought a plants shape emulated the container, ie a wider pot led to a wider plant, a deeper pot helped create a taller plant, etc.

I never heard that, but I do know that the amount of plant below ground will determine the amount of plant above ground.:Namaste:
 
QUICK UPDATE

I'm not gonna bother anyone with my problems other to say it's been a real tough couple of days. On top of all the non-related issues, I had transplanted all the moms to soil the other day along with the White Widow seedling. The mom's handled it fine, but the seedling didn't like it at all, so we're gonna have to start again in March.

Anyways, I needed something to cheer me up so I picked up some dry ice and, you know the rest!

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Happy Harvests!

K
 
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