Snow White & More

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welcome bluefly43 and closetorganic!

I think the harvest will come just after the new year. today is day 8. the Diesel sprout had to be staked.

I upgraded from 118 watts to 128 watts.

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Mono, I'm eagerly awaiting sex as well. The diesel should be a female, the I'm hope for one female snow white.

Crawdaddy, I've only grown from seed. I tried cloning once and gave up on it because it didn't work for me. I kept pulling the plant out of the soil before it could get a chance to root. I did manage to get a aloe cutting to root in a glass of water with a couple drops of nutrients in it.

Day 10 from breaking earth. im expecting to be able to determine sex around day 21.

They are not stretching much at all anymore, and seem to enjoy being ~ 6" away from the cfls :thedoubletake:

Instead of putting these plants close to the cfls, I kept them far away to see exactly how close they "like" to be. I'll get exact measurements tomorrow.

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B do you go straight to 12/12? Just wondering how you're sexing.

Yup, 12/12 from seed.

The smaller containers seem to promote more leaf growth sooner, unless it's just the genetics.
 
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Yes sir, looking very nice. Both sound delicious i might add. Love me some sour d! As for cloning try a diy aero or dwc cloner cheap and way better results if you wanted to ever keep a small cycle going of some sweet stash. I've had almost no losses with decent aero set-ups.
 
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maybe ill try and get a clone this round. Thanks for the encouragement, all of you!

the Diesel refused to produce a picture with the flash on for some reason

day 12

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Hey b.real I dont know if you could or would even but would GLR light hours be possible to run if you could spare a little more time in between harvest to let them stock up a week or 2 longer and get back to hitting 30g again but under those cfls. Ive seen sex within a week of eliminating that one hour on last 3 seed plants Ive grown. Maybe even keep 12/12 to first pistil and switch to GLR for that extra week or 2 :thumb:
 
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Hey b.real I dont know if you could or would even but would GLR light hours be possible to run if you could spare a little more time in between harvest to let them stock up a week or 2 longer and get back to hitting 30g again but under those cfls. Ive seen sex within a week of eliminating that one hour on last 3 seed plants Ive grown. Maybe even keep 12/12 to first pistil and switch to GLR for that extra week or 2 :thumb:

remember when I used to turn my lights on and off by hand? yeah.. I have a timer now LOL. I like the 12/12 schedule. how do I do the GLR?

I moved my sprouts closer to the lights by placing them on burners from metal warming trays. its the only thing that fit in the box. the serious 6 sprouts grew a little faster and I think that's because they were closer to the light.
 
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Hey b.real GLR light schedule is 12 hours light on then 5.5 hours off,1 hour on, 5.5 hours off. I use these hours in veg for feels like long time now. Its suppose to as ,I feel it does, have your plant wanting to flip and building flower hormones but the one hour of light keeps them in check at the breaking point where you take out that hour and have faster showing on sex.
For me it saves on electricity and has the right growth I need in my setup for raising my clones or seedlings to perpetual grow. My last seedling Bomb Seeds, reg Berry Bomb was grown glr from start I put in flower to sex after veggin a couple months and within 4-5 days I seen pistil and put her back under glr.She handled that good not taking as long as Ive heard to reveg or grow wierd



The Gas Lantern Routine

This information will seem quite revolutionary to growers who have been using the standard cycles to produce cannabis, seemingly with little or no trouble at all. Actually, in a grow that more closely mimics the outdoor growing environment under indoor lighting conditions, the plants may be maintained in vegetative cycle using only a total of 13 hours of light daily, which dramatically reduces the cost of production.

The less is more approach of the Gas Lantern Routine provides the growing plant with adequate darkness to promote health, and by inserting a full hour of light in the center of the dark period, the plants are tricked, and neither flower nor express hermaphrodites. The growing plants get more than the average amount of rest, thus reducing stress, and improving plant yield, overall performance, and medicinal quality.

Seedlings and Cuttings

The Gas Lantern Routine is applicable in seedling phases of plant growth. As stated before, nowhere in nature does the springtime ever provide an 18-hour photosynthesis length; rather, the growing spring light may in fact be 12 hours or less. Lighting for seedlings and cuttings needs to be bright, but compact fluorescent or T5 lighting may be used while in the seedling phase. Rooted mature cuttings can immediately light with HID lighting.

The Vegetative Schedule

This method is quite simple: 12 hours of light, followed by five and one half hours of darkness, a single hour of light exactly, and then a second period of five and one half hours of darkness. Placing a full hour of light in the very center of a 12-hour dark period tricks the plant and interrupts the buildup up of sensitive floral hormones, which would normally trigger flowering by destroying them. The grower simply raises the plants to the desired size before switching to the fall schedule to bloom.

Using this method, vegetative duration may be also reduced, and with a shorter growth cycle comes more frequent and better production. Vegetative cycles can be shortened by one to two weeks, and flowering may also be shortened a week or more using this method in con- junction with a diminishing light schedule.

For patients growing their own medicine or for compassionate cannabis providers, production turnover may be increased from four to five crops per year or more using rotation, and power consumption can be reduced even further by the use of high-intensity fluorescent lighting during vegetation, and overall, power consumption savings can be 50 percent or more.

The Flowering Schedule

Plants that have been grown up using the Gas Lantern Routine are now supercharged with floral hormones, and ready to go into flower with the slightest provocation. The interruption of the dark period has been destroying enough of the naturally building hormones to keep the plant from expressing sex, and the well-rested plant now has plenty of stored nutrients and energy to finish its life cycle and flower. Triggering the plants is essentially just a matter of removing the interrupting light period, so the plants may now experience the full buildup of hormones that will trigger blooming.

In keeping with providing all the correct organic biological and environmental needs of the plant, the diminishing fall schedule should be employed to take full advantage of the hormonal preparation created by using the Gas Lantern Routine. The diminishing hours of light in nature trigger acceleration in the production of hormones in the plant, making it flower with increasing speed and power.

The Diminishing Lighting Schedule

The diminishing fall schedule begins with an evenly halved light schedule, using 12 hours for the first two weeks to trigger the plant into bloom, and then further reducing the lighting for increasing darkness time by one half hour every week.

The final week of flowering will provide the plants with a mere nine hours of light, with 15 hours of darkness, forcing a resulting final explosive hormonal buildup. This sends the plant into blooming overdrive and produces resin far beyond the normal plant's limits.
When the Gas Lantern Routine and Diminishing Light Schedule are used together, they create healthier, more naturally robust plants. These important and historical botanical techniques are soon going to become very important techniques in the coming years as medicinal cannabis research continues to advance. When viewed from cost of production, organics, and medicinal needs, the methods currently being promoted can be seen counter to the interests of growing healthy plants. Understanding your plants is the best way to grow the best medicine, and looking for solutions to growing problems by observing nature always provides the right answers.

Pro:

Saves electricity (11hrs of saving from 24/0, 5hrs of saving from 18/6)
Promote healthy plants. Any deficiency it has the plant will be able to bounce back with new growth after adjustment is made
Promote plants growth, 2x more than 18/6, and 3-4x more from 24/0
Cuttings will root much faster with thicker roots and more hairs
Clones under bloom (12/12) will induce flowering much sooner
Less on hours = less heat = stealth

Con:

Must have good ventilation if the tent is closed or the tent has to be left open for the 1hr on between the dark cycle.
Must have good odor control. Healthy plants produce more aroma even in veg.
Plants in small container may get root bound due to rapid growth

Some tips using GLR (theory):

Have the light on a timer so the on/off is consistent daily. Manual on/off may induce flowering.
Use mix light or MH. Try not to use just HPS. The spectrum from HPS may induce flowering even with the 1 hour on between the dark cycle.
For the 1 hour on use a cheap light source like Fluorescent light or CFL instead of using HID light. Have it on a separate timer only turn on 1hr between the dark cycle and have the HID light set at 12/12. Normally with any other light cycle the ballast is turned on once in 24hrs, with GLR it turned on twice. This may shorten the lifespan of the ballast and bulb. If you decided to run Fluo/CFL then make sure the tent is well lid any shaded area or area left in the dark may induce flowering. The 1 hour on between dark cycle help destroy floral hormone, lack of light will not be able to destroy the hormone and will send your plants in bloom.
 
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hey mono and Harley, here's an early update for you guys! they're growing fast now.

closetorganic, let me read through your post and ill get back to you about the glr cycle.

for now, here is the 2 week update (well one day short). my Diesel sprout is looking funny. odd shaped leaves and the pigments of the leaves won't allow me to take a picture with the flash on.

these grew this much overnight after getting them closer to the lights.

the sativa heavy snow white sprout is now more indica looking just like the other one :(

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