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MrSauga said:
Here's a link to the original 420 thread:

Bud Washing

First off, I did not come up with the idea of washing buds as part of harvest. I'm not sure where the idea originated, but I learned of it via Curso and DocBud. :Namaste: I've read with interest as several members have tried this technique. The idea already appealed to me on a logical level...
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someone gave me a link to a video, lol i lost it with all the notifications that is happening
 
Thanks @InTheShed. you are like a whole database my friend
 
PK said:
Thanks in the shed. you are like a whole database my friend
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ok, so half a cup of soda and half a cup of lime mixed in one bucket. 2nd bucket just pure water and a 3rd one for extra measure. Let's get the baptizing started!! They get lucky they don't get circumcised :rofl:
 
Mr. Sauga said:
Hi Sister HH @InTheShed always knows the correct page to start. I bookmarked it here from a while ago but it talks about the jars too, so not the correct spot.

DrZiggy's Low And Slow Drying: Maximizing Your Harvest

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However, I did cut and copy to a text file and this is all of it for the most part:

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Low and Slo: In The Bag

Basic points:
  • Paper bags will help speed the process by about a week.
  • You’ll get better than 25% back, so loading the bags at 28 grams wet means every four bags’ll bring you very close to an ounce dry.
  • 28 grams to a lunch bag is a good volume for smooth drying.
  • Save most trimming for later to retain even more terpenes. I only take off fans.
  • Laying the bags on their side increases surface area facilitating the drying process.

I wash the buds and hang dry for 4 hours and then trim the buds into the bags.

After three days open the bags, reach in and gently bounce the buds apart. Close up and put them back in place.

Do this again at least one more time, about 3 days later. After that you can forget about them.

In two weeks I pull them and finish drying with rice balls to 62-65%. Then into a jar with a Boveda.

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The process is a simple one. You want humidity levels at around 45-50% and temperatures at 40-45 degrees F.

* Harvest and wash buds, if that's your inclination. I will tell you, that washing the buds will fascilitate a more even and faster dry. Most of us let the branches hang to dry for around 4 hours. This is completely arbitrary. You're going to dry them nonetheless.

* Trim the buds from the branches small enough that they won't take forever to dry. It'll take a round or two to find your personal sweet spot, but everyone has their own comfort zone.

* Place the buds in jars that'll be gently tumbled daily or every three days, or into paper bags. In either case keep in mind that you're trying to create maximum surface area, so avoid overloading the storage container.

* Occasionally tumble, seperate, or do whatever floats your boat to keep the buds from forming a big, sticky ball. I find that I have great luck with the bags if about every three days I stick a hand in and move things around.

* Once a week let the buds air dry in a room with reasonable humidity to help drop the levels a little faster. I usually don't start doing this until the second week. Larger buds can take up to three weeks to get down to below 70% humidity, but in bags, most material is ready to work the rest of the humidity out in jars, and the cure begins at the two-week mark. I use rice to help with this.

* When you have them stable in the jars, begin curing as per your favorite method.

I should note that she skipped the step where you take them out of the bags after a week and put them in a sealed jar for a few hours with a hygrometer to check the process.

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Hopefully that helps!
Thanks for your kind words HH. Have a great day!
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Comment because I wanna use this method
 
MrSauga said:
Hi Sister HH @InTheShed always knows the correct page to start. I bookmarked it here from a while ago but it talks about the jars too, so not the correct spot.

DrZiggy's Low And Slow Drying: Maximizing Your Harvest

:nicethread:
www.420magazine.com

However, I did cut and copy to a text file and this is all of it for the most part:

START TEXT
Low and Slo: In The Bag

Basic points:
  • Paper bags will help speed the process by about a week.
  • You’ll get better than 25% back, so loading the bags at 28 grams wet means every four bags’ll bring you very close to an ounce dry.
  • 28 grams to a lunch bag is a good volume for smooth drying.
  • Save most trimming for later to retain even more terpenes. I only take off fans.
  • Laying the bags on their side increases surface area facilitating the drying process.

I wash the buds and hang dry for 4 hours and then trim the buds into the bags.

After three days open the bags, reach in and gently bounce the buds apart. Close up and put them back in place.

Do this again at least one more time, about 3 days later. After that you can forget about them.

In two weeks I pull them and finish drying with rice balls to 62-65%. Then into a jar with a Boveda.

NEW
____

The process is a simple one. You want humidity levels at around 45-50% and temperatures at 40-45 degrees F.

* Harvest and wash buds, if that's your inclination. I will tell you, that washing the buds will fascilitate a more even and faster dry. Most of us let the branches hang to dry for around 4 hours. This is completely arbitrary. You're going to dry them nonetheless.

* Trim the buds from the branches small enough that they won't take forever to dry. It'll take a round or two to find your personal sweet spot, but everyone has their own comfort zone.

* Place the buds in jars that'll be gently tumbled daily or every three days, or into paper bags. In either case keep in mind that you're trying to create maximum surface area, so avoid overloading the storage container.

* Occasionally tumble, seperate, or do whatever floats your boat to keep the buds from forming a big, sticky ball. I find that I have great luck with the bags if about every three days I stick a hand in and move things around.

* Once a week let the buds air dry in a room with reasonable humidity to help drop the levels a little faster. I usually don't start doing this until the second week. Larger buds can take up to three weeks to get down to below 70% humidity, but in bags, most material is ready to work the rest of the humidity out in jars, and the cure begins at the two-week mark. I use rice to help with this.

* When you have them stable in the jars, begin curing as per your favorite method.

I should note that she skipped the step where you take them out of the bags after a week and put them in a sealed jar for a few hours with a hygrometer to check the process.

END TEXT

Hopefully that helps!
Thanks for your kind words HH. Have a great day!
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I am definitely going to try this method out for my first harvest coming up. Thanks again @InTheShed, I couldn’t of asked for a better mentor during this entire process. I really do appreciate all your research and advice! But ok, so
I was looking for supplies and I see that those rh packets come in a variety of %. Which percentage should I get, a few different ones or do I use 69% or 75% bc I live in the desert?
 
420giirl said:
I am definitely going to try this method out for my first harvest coming up. Thanks again @InTheShed, I couldn’t of asked for a better mentor during this entire process. I really do appreciate all your research and advice! But ok, so
I was looking for supplies and I see that those rh packets come in a variety of %. Which percentage should I get, a few different ones or do I use 69% or 75% bc I live in the desert?
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62
 
420giirl said:
Which percentage should I get, a few different ones or do I use 69% or 75% bc I live in the desert?
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What Ghostwriter said! 62% unless you prefer slightly drier flowers, then go for 59%. Joints burn more evenly with less moisture, but you could always leave the 62% bud out for a while after you grind it before smoking!

Your ambient humidity won't make a difference since these will be sealed in air-tight jars with your harvest.
 
Perfect Sun LED said:
Hey, nice grow. You should join the Goliath V2 giveaway. It looks like you could pull off a big yield with it.
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Thank you. I'll have to pass this time around. Good luck, and thanks for being a sponsor here at the mag.
 
MrSauga said:
The process is a simple one. You want humidity levels at around 45-50% and temperatures at 40-45 degrees F.

* Harvest and wash buds, if that's your inclination. I will tell you, that washing the buds will fascilitate a more even and faster dry. Most of us let the branches hang to dry for around 4 hours. This is completely arbitrary. You're going to dry them nonetheless.

* Trim the buds from the branches small enough that they won't take forever to dry. It'll take a round or two to find your personal sweet spot, but everyone has their own comfort zone.

* Place the buds in jars that'll be gently tumbled daily or every three days, or into paper bags. In either case keep in mind that you're trying to create maximum surface area, so avoid overloading the storage container.

* Occasionally tumble, seperate, or do whatever floats your boat to keep the buds from forming a big, sticky ball. I find that I have great luck with the bags if about every three days I stick a hand in and move things around.

* Once a week let the buds air dry in a room with reasonable humidity to help drop the levels a little faster. I usually don't start doing this until the second week. Larger buds can take up to three weeks to get down to below 70% humidity, but in bags, most material is ready to work the rest of the humidity out in jars, and the cure begins at the two-week mark. I use rice to help with this.

* When you have them stable in the jars, begin curing as per your favorite method.

I should note that she skipped the step where you take them out of the bags after a week and put them in a sealed jar for a few hours with a hygrometer to check the process.

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Hopefully that helps!
Thanks for your kind words HH. Have a great day!
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Hi Mr S :)

First and foremost, if I may be so bold, you are looking particularly debonair today.

OMG I cant believe I've been a member here over a year, and I still don't know how to bookmark a page LOLLLL To find these posts I need to scroll my own comments, and Mr S, every time I search me I discover I speak a little bit of shite, and when I say a little bit, I mean A LOT!

Kk down to da biz. My next harvest I am going to try the Lotus Dry Method a poster called Grateful Bud told me about. If that works out I am very interested in trying this method, mainly coz it sounds so cheap and easy. And you know me... cheap and easy af ;)

I've bought a book to keep track of things I do and learn to try and cut down on my Tourettesing the same questions over and over like an annoying parrot. This style of dry is very new to me, as is the usual way. Before joining here I was even worse at drying. Most went mouldy in the jars tbh.

The only thing I am sure of, that goes against your steps, I want to trim properly first, then wash. But everything after that point I want to follow to the letter. Just with the point I have highlighted in red, approximately how long should I keep them out of the fridge? Just until they hit that 70% and then do I put them back into the fridge? Sorry to be a pest. I just want to clarify.

And stable is under 69% aye? and curing just means when you get to the burp stage. Is that right?

I thought drying was the amount of time they hung on the line. So a slow dry meant you had to keep them on the line longer.
 
Trala said:
The only thing I am sure of, that goes against your steps, I want to trim properly first, then wash. But everything after that point I want to follow to the letter.
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There is no harm in trimming first then washing. I use to like dry trimming, but I find wet trimming is faster and easier. The thing to keep in mind is that the hanging buds can't be wet before going into the paper bags.
Trala said:
Just with the point I have highlighted in red, approximately how long should I keep them out of the fridge?
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If you are referring to when you are checking the humidity, typically one to two hours will give you a good idea.
Trala said:
Just until they hit that 70% and then do I put them back into the fridge? Sorry to be a pest. I just want to clarify.
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So for the first couple of weeks just leave them in the paper bags. After a week, feel a few buds when jostling them around. Most likely they will be moist, but if you only have a few in each bag and your fridge temps are not what is recommended, then they may dry faster. The point being that unless something has gone wrong the buds wont need to be checked until after week two.
If the RH goes over 70% then back in the fridge they go, for another day or two. Experience plays a lot here. I know that if my RH is 80% when checking, I have at least a week more in the fridge.

Once the RH is below 70% you will start to smell the plant's terpenes. Now they go into turkey bags to bring the RH down to 62%. I'll fill the turkey bag with room air, like a balloon, and tie it off. The air gets absorbed into the buds slowly, bringing the RH down over a few days. You need to burp the bag once or twice daily, refilling it with room air. By now the curing has started too, and as you burp the bags stuff your face in front of the opening and inhale deeply.
This typically will make you poop your pants, but it smells good, The air, not the poopy pants.
Keep one or two hygrometers in the turkey bags, and once you hit 62% jar them up. This is when the final curing will take place.
Trala said:
And stable is under 69% aye? and curing just means when you get to the burp stage. Is that right?
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Yes, but now they go from the fridge to the turkey bags until they get down to 62%. Remember, poopy pants. The curing doesn't officially start until the jarring stage.
Trala said:
I thought drying was the amount of time they hung on the line. So a slow dry meant you had to keep them on the line longer.
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Slow dry can be done many different ways. The benefits of a longer dry and proper cure come down to taste and smoothness. There is a noticeable difference when done properly.
Trala said:
Tourettesing the same questions over and over like an annoying parrot.
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You're not annoying, but I do have some crackers if you want them.
 
MrSauga said:
Once the RH is below 70% you will start to smell the plant's terpenes. Now they go into turkey bags to bring the RH down to 62%. I'll fill the turkey bag with room air, like a balloon, and tie it off. The air gets absorbed into the buds slowly, bringing the RH down over a few days. You need to burp the bag once or twice daily, refilling it with room air.
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I thought the point of low and slow was to preserve the terpenes and prevent losing what's lost with burping to 62%. That's why Susan recommended rice balls to quickly get the buds to 62% for the cure:

Rice Balls to lower RH in jars

Let me start by talking about the success of @Scientific's oven-dried rice suggestion. :thanks: HOLY MOLY! Toss out your silicone beads and your store-bought desiccants. If you need fast and extreme dehumidifying, GO WITH RICE! The basic info is that rice took the RH in the jar from 75% to...
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InTheShed said:
I thought the point of low and slow was to preserve the terpenes and prevent losing what's lost with burping to 62%.
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I never got that deep into it. I just didn't have the time for the rice balls, and once you've done it you'll realize that the terps are not lost. I love opening up a fresh jar. They all smell like fresh roasted coffee.

Having said that, I urge everyone to try it with the rice balls.
InTheShed said:
That's why Susan recommended rice balls to quickly get the buds to 62% for the cure:
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Well I've never compared the two methods, with or without rice balls, but I honestly don't think there is a need for it based on the results that I taste and smell. I wish I had the time and energy to be more of a 'for science' type of guy.
 
Some day maybe!
 
MrSauga said:
There is no harm in trimming first then washing. I use to like dry trimming, but I find wet trimming is faster and easier. The thing to keep in mind is that the hanging buds can't be wet before going into the paper bags.

If you are referring to when you are checking the humidity, typically one to two hours will give you a good idea.

So for the first couple of weeks just leave them in the paper bags. After a week, feel a few buds when jostling them around. Most likely they will be moist, but if you only have a few in each bag and your fridge temps are not what is recommended, then they may dry faster. The point being that unless something has gone wrong the buds wont need to be checked until after week two.
If the RH goes over 70% then back in the fridge they go, for another day or two. Experience plays a lot here. I know that if my RH is 80% when checking, I have at least a week more in the fridge.

Once the RH is below 70% you will start to smell the plant's terpenes. Now they go into turkey bags to bring the RH down to 62%. I'll fill the turkey bag with room air, like a balloon, and tie it off. The air gets absorbed into the buds slowly, bringing the RH down over a few days. You need to burp the bag once or twice daily, refilling it with room air. By now the curing has started too, and as you burp the bags stuff your face in front of the opening and inhale deeply.
This typically will make you poop your pants, but it smells good, The air, not the poopy pants.
Keep one or two hygrometers in the turkey bags, and once you hit 62% jar them up. This is when the final curing will take place.

Yes, but now they go from the fridge to the turkey bags until they get down to 62%. Remember, poopy pants. The curing doesn't officially start until the jarring stage.

Slow dry can be done many different ways. The benefits of a longer dry and proper cure come down to taste and smoothness. There is a noticeable difference when done properly.

You're not annoying, but I do have some crackers if you want them.
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Sweet mother of Jesus. What is a turkey balloon bag? Omg you’re joking me! Lolll! You can’t joke about this Mr S! I was literally about to google what is a turkey bag! LOLLINGGG!

Edit: So I just googled just in case and in the USA turkey oven bags is a thing. So I’m now unsure.

I just read it again. I can’t decide whether you are joking with me or not!

If you’re not joking, do you think this whole process might be a bit out of my depth for now? I’d hate to ruin it.
 
Trala said:
Sweet mother of Jesus. What is a turkey balloon bag? Omg you’re joking me! Lolll! You can’t joke about this Mr S! I was literally about to google what is a turkey bag! LOLLINGGG!

Edit: So I just googled just in case and in the USA turkey oven bags is a thing. So I’m now unsure.

I just read it again. I can’t decide whether you are joking with me or not!

If you’re not joking, do you think this whole process might be a bit out of my depth for now? I’d hate to ruin it.
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Lol, I forgot you aussie's bbq everything alive, and turkey oven bags make no sense whatsoever.
You can use any type of bag that holds air well. Turkey bags are big, and they generally will hold air for a day or two before requiring attention.

You want a bag big enough to allow ample room for the Buds to be tossed around, gently! Turkey bags are ideal. Condoms won't work.

You can also put in jars, but more time consuming to burp daily.
 
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For the record, they are not airtight no matter how tightly you close them, so the moisture level inside will slowly acclimate to the ambient RH.
 
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