Heavenly Hybrid
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I bet it’s a girl’s bathroom. Hair is the new rockwool. #draingrow
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I bet it’s a girl’s bathroom. Hair is the new rockwool. #draingrow
Funny you should say that. Just the other day I shaved off my beard and I wondered whether it would be good for starting seeds in lol
Morer! LOLOLOL
Gotta be better than that hemp straw 
Yah - dont really wanna think too much about what conditions in that drain made it possible for a seed to sprout
Plants are looking lovely btw Sauga
Heavenly Hybrid
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Omg, I wouldn’t put it past you Doctor Professor! After the backyard sand, I know you are a resourceful man. #beardgrow
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I have, for real, but haven't seen anything. I do have my neighbors vine growing under there though
Shed taught me that.
Thanks Amy, it's good to have someone here that takes my grows seriously!Plants are looking lovely btw Sauga
One day I will too!
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Day 129 Update
Hey everybody!
Lots to discuss today. First off, many of you may not know that I use MC as my base nute. I run the older version which carries a NPK ratio of 9-6-14. Their newest version runs 9-6-17 which is meant to help the plant through flower. There's less nutrients in the older version which tends to lead to deficiencies occasionally of Ca, Mg and K.
The newer version contains higher levels of Ca and Magnesium amino chelates to compensate as well as an increase of 27% Phosphorous and 24% Potassium.
So what am I getting at? Well I'm trying to run some new numbers with my MC to give me more Ca, Mg and K thoughout the flowering stage. Currently I have been running the following to give me a combined NPK ratio of 2-1-3. That has been working fine in veg but the plants outside have been showing signs of various defs, albeit not that bad. So my feed consisted of the following per 4L of water:
6.3g M.C (9-6-14)
5mL Protekt (0-0-3)
2mL Sensi Cal (4-0-0)
.4g Kelp Extract (0-0-15)
Now this is where the science hopefully works for me. Greenleaf Nutrients, the manufacturers of MegaCrop, also make several additional goodies that they want you to buy. I have the following:
Cal+Mag Pro (13-0-0) - This product contains a healthy dose of Ca at 11% and Mg at 3.5%
Bud Explosion (0-19-39) - This product also contains 1% Mg and 10% S
Sweet Candy (0-0-16) - This product contains 5.5% Mg and 13% S
I've been following many posts by farside05 and he's always throwing out some good tidbits for us to enjoy.
Did you know that plants look for 1 part S to 15-20 parts N? If your plants are not getting that then they probably will benefit with some extra Sulfur. Also, you never want your N-K ratio to exceed 1:3. Anything above that and you risk Ca lockout. The best range for most plants during growth and veg seems to be around 2-1-3 of NPK. As an example, if you have a combined ratio of of nutes that going in that equals something like 6-3-9 then you have a 2-1-3 ratio. Perfect.
If your nutes going in combine a total of 3-3-12 then you have a ratio of 1-1-4. Now your N-K ratio is above 1:3 and you're going to have problems.
So you can see it's not just throwing some nutes together and hoping things go the way you want them to. In my case I've been able to use a simple calculator that farside created and modified it to meet my needs. It's simple to plumb in some numbers and visually see the results instantly.
Having said that I'm going to use some of products above that I have been against using with MC. MC v2 is a stand alone product and does not require additives from what we have seen around the forum here. MC v1 is a different story.
Using their CM Pro has a huge amount of N in it. So much that you'll burn your plants unless you can work out how much to use. The benefits are hidden inside with the Ca and Mg if you can access them without harming the plant. PPM levels of N are best between 90-150. If you start going higher than 150 you might risk tip burn. If lower than 90 you may risk N def. So you always want to try and maintain the N at correct levels. I've been as high as 180ppm and start to notice tip burn depending on the stage of growth.
The Bud Explosion I wont be running, since the P values mess everything up when I try and get the correct ratios needed. This leaves me to the Sweet Candy. The Sweet Candy contains some really high doses of of K, at 16%. My concern was how high the S was as well.
If you recall earlier, plants look for a 15-20:1 ratio N-S, so with this product it gives me a 1:1 ratio. I asked around and it appears that a 1:1 ratio is fine and I should have no problems, so this is what I'll be using for the next few feedings. Again, this is per 4L of water.
5.3g MegaCrop
5g Sweet Candy
1g Calmag Pro
With the above amounts I get a combined NPK ratio of 6-3-14 which works out to 2-1-4 for arguments sake. Exactly what I am trying to get to. I've increased my K, maitained my N and P and kept my N load at 174ppm. What has happened though is the PPM levels of my final mix have shot way up. This should be OK but may mean that I could get a buildup of salt over a period of time. My PPM level is at 1293 with an EC of 2.75.
So with all that said I'm eager to see how things react over the next few days. They both got 6L of water today with their new formula.
In closing here's a few pics of the girls.
Hey everybody!
Lots to discuss today. First off, many of you may not know that I use MC as my base nute. I run the older version which carries a NPK ratio of 9-6-14. Their newest version runs 9-6-17 which is meant to help the plant through flower. There's less nutrients in the older version which tends to lead to deficiencies occasionally of Ca, Mg and K.
The newer version contains higher levels of Ca and Magnesium amino chelates to compensate as well as an increase of 27% Phosphorous and 24% Potassium.
So what am I getting at? Well I'm trying to run some new numbers with my MC to give me more Ca, Mg and K thoughout the flowering stage. Currently I have been running the following to give me a combined NPK ratio of 2-1-3. That has been working fine in veg but the plants outside have been showing signs of various defs, albeit not that bad. So my feed consisted of the following per 4L of water:
6.3g M.C (9-6-14)
5mL Protekt (0-0-3)
2mL Sensi Cal (4-0-0)
.4g Kelp Extract (0-0-15)
Now this is where the science hopefully works for me. Greenleaf Nutrients, the manufacturers of MegaCrop, also make several additional goodies that they want you to buy. I have the following:
Cal+Mag Pro (13-0-0) - This product contains a healthy dose of Ca at 11% and Mg at 3.5%
Bud Explosion (0-19-39) - This product also contains 1% Mg and 10% S
Sweet Candy (0-0-16) - This product contains 5.5% Mg and 13% S
I've been following many posts by farside05 and he's always throwing out some good tidbits for us to enjoy.
Did you know that plants look for 1 part S to 15-20 parts N? If your plants are not getting that then they probably will benefit with some extra Sulfur. Also, you never want your N-K ratio to exceed 1:3. Anything above that and you risk Ca lockout. The best range for most plants during growth and veg seems to be around 2-1-3 of NPK. As an example, if you have a combined ratio of of nutes that going in that equals something like 6-3-9 then you have a 2-1-3 ratio. Perfect.
If your nutes going in combine a total of 3-3-12 then you have a ratio of 1-1-4. Now your N-K ratio is above 1:3 and you're going to have problems.
So you can see it's not just throwing some nutes together and hoping things go the way you want them to. In my case I've been able to use a simple calculator that farside created and modified it to meet my needs. It's simple to plumb in some numbers and visually see the results instantly.
Having said that I'm going to use some of products above that I have been against using with MC. MC v2 is a stand alone product and does not require additives from what we have seen around the forum here. MC v1 is a different story.
Using their CM Pro has a huge amount of N in it. So much that you'll burn your plants unless you can work out how much to use. The benefits are hidden inside with the Ca and Mg if you can access them without harming the plant. PPM levels of N are best between 90-150. If you start going higher than 150 you might risk tip burn. If lower than 90 you may risk N def. So you always want to try and maintain the N at correct levels. I've been as high as 180ppm and start to notice tip burn depending on the stage of growth.
The Bud Explosion I wont be running, since the P values mess everything up when I try and get the correct ratios needed. This leaves me to the Sweet Candy. The Sweet Candy contains some really high doses of of K, at 16%. My concern was how high the S was as well.
If you recall earlier, plants look for a 15-20:1 ratio N-S, so with this product it gives me a 1:1 ratio. I asked around and it appears that a 1:1 ratio is fine and I should have no problems, so this is what I'll be using for the next few feedings. Again, this is per 4L of water.
5.3g MegaCrop
5g Sweet Candy
1g Calmag Pro
With the above amounts I get a combined NPK ratio of 6-3-14 which works out to 2-1-4 for arguments sake. Exactly what I am trying to get to. I've increased my K, maitained my N and P and kept my N load at 174ppm. What has happened though is the PPM levels of my final mix have shot way up. This should be OK but may mean that I could get a buildup of salt over a period of time. My PPM level is at 1293 with an EC of 2.75.
So with all that said I'm eager to see how things react over the next few days. They both got 6L of water today with their new formula.
In closing here's a few pics of the girls.
Super healthy plant Sauga.
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Thanks Penny! I think this may be my last outdoor grow with photos. It makes for a long season and if I do a couple of autos next summer I may be able to get two grows in. I'll continue to run photos inside throughout the year.
Autos could shine outdoors
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I agree... I think @flashmp3 nailed a couple of goodies this summer outside. Hopefully he can post a couple of pics here for us to see. He ran his I believe with only 8 hours of solid daylight and had some good yields.
Beautiful plants Sauga and nice breakdown of the MegaCrop feeding! I’m interested to see how it works out for you!Day 129 Update
Hey everybody!
Lots to discuss today. First off, many of you may not know that I use MC as my base nute. I run the older version which carries a NPK ratio of 9-6-14. Their newest version runs 9-6-17 which is meant to help the plant through flower. There's less nutrients in the older version which tends to lead to deficiencies occasionally of Ca, Mg and K.
The newer version contains higher levels of Ca and Magnesium amino chelates to compensate as well as an increase of 27% Phosphorous and 24% Potassium.
So what am I getting at? Well I'm trying to run some new numbers with my MC to give me more Ca, Mg and K thoughout the flowering stage. Currently I have been running the following to give me a combined NPK ratio of 2-1-3. That has been working fine in veg but the plants outside have been showing signs of various defs, albeit not that bad. So my feed consisted of the following per 4L of water:
6.3g M.C (9-6-14)
5mL Protekt (0-0-3)
2mL Sensi Cal (4-0-0)
.4g Kelp Extract (0-0-15)
Now this is where the science hopefully works for me. Greenleaf Nutrients, the manufacturers of MegaCrop, also make several additional goodies that they want you to buy. I have the following:
Cal+Mag Pro (13-0-0) - This product contains a healthy dose of Ca at 11% and Mg at 3.5%
Bud Explosion (0-19-39) - This product also contains 1% Mg and 10% S
Sweet Candy (0-0-16) - This product contains 5.5% Mg and 13% S
I've been following many posts by farside05 and he's always throwing out some good tidbits for us to enjoy.
Did you know that plants look for 1 part S to 15-20 parts N? If your plants are not getting that then they probably will benefit with some extra Sulfur. Also, you never want your N-K ratio to exceed 1:3. Anything above that and you risk Ca lockout. The best range for most plants during growth and veg seems to be around 2-1-3 of NPK. As an example, if you have a combined ratio of of nutes that going in that equals something like 6-3-9 then you have a 2-1-3 ratio. Perfect.
If your nutes going in combine a total of 3-3-12 then you have a ratio of 1-1-4. Now your N-K ratio is above 1:3 and you're going to have problems.
So you can see it's not just throwing some nutes together and hoping things go the way you want them to. In my case I've been able to use a simple calculator that farside created and modified it to meet my needs. It's simple to plumb in some numbers and visually see the results instantly.
Having said that I'm going to use some of products above that I have been against using with MC. MC v2 is a stand alone product and does not require additives from what we have seen around the forum here. MC v1 is a different story.
Using their CM Pro has a huge amount of N in it. So much that you'll burn your plants unless you can work out how much to use. The benefits are hidden inside with the Ca and Mg if you can access them without harming the plant. PPM levels of N are best between 90-150. If you start going higher than 150 you might risk tip burn. If lower than 90 you may risk N def. So you always want to try and maintain the N at correct levels. I've been as high as 180ppm and start to notice tip burn depending on the stage of growth.
The Bud Explosion I wont be running, since the P values mess everything up when I try and get the correct ratios needed. This leaves me to the Sweet Candy. The Sweet Candy contains some really high doses of of K, at 16%. My concern was how high the S was as well.
If you recall earlier, plants look for a 15-20:1 ratio N-S, so with this product it gives me a 1:1 ratio. I asked around and it appears that a 1:1 ratio is fine and I should have no problems, so this is what I'll be using for the next few feedings. Again, this is per 4L of water.
5.3g MegaCrop
5g Sweet Candy
1g Calmag Pro
With the above amounts I get a combined NPK ratio of 6-3-14 which works out to 2-1-4 for arguments sake. Exactly what I am trying to get to. I've increased my K, maitained my N and P and kept my N load at 174ppm. What has happened though is the PPM levels of my final mix have shot way up. This should be OK but may mean that I could get a buildup of salt over a period of time. My PPM level is at 1293 with an EC of 2.75.
So with all that said I'm eager to see how things react over the next few days. They both got 6L of water today with their new formula.
In closing here's a few pics of the girls.
I’m going to be trying to adjust my feeding schedule in upcoming grows by adding in boosters to the MegaCrop V2 and see how it goes
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Thanks Dutch... If you need someone to bounce some numbers off hit me up. Enjoy your week brutha!
I probably will if you don’t mind! That would be awesome thanks my man and I hope you have a fantastic week ahead as well!!
@MrSauga thanks for the useful information about the npk ratio. I didn't know all that precise elements!
Regarding my summer outdoor grow, as you said the plants could receive only a maximum of 8 hours of direct sunlight between 11.30am-7.30pm. Here are some pics at gradual states:
All yielded above 200g dry. Fabric pot 3gal coco. Twice watering a day minimum in flowering.
Regarding my summer outdoor grow, as you said the plants could receive only a maximum of 8 hours of direct sunlight between 11.30am-7.30pm. Here are some pics at gradual states:
All yielded above 200g dry. Fabric pot 3gal coco. Twice watering a day minimum in flowering.
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Thanks @flashmp3 ...very inspiring
Terrific post back there MrS...bookmarked that. 
Do you live in a dome somewhere? Beyond the lovely green color, there doesn't seem to be an insect anywhere near your plants. Flash and I obviously live in the real world, but your plants seem to be in an insect-free zone.
Do you live in a dome somewhere? Beyond the lovely green color, there doesn't seem to be an insect anywhere near your plants. Flash and I obviously live in the real world, but your plants seem to be in an insect-free zone.
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I would like to live in that insect free dome lol. I have some bugs on my plants if you want them in case your bored of insect free plants lol.
Thanks @flashmp3 ...very inspiring
My pleasure my friend. You were there in my previous grows with the different trouble I had to go through so it s a pleasure to share when it s a success plus i m convinced it can help growers taking their chance and try outdoor growing with autos. Your pineapple express grow remains one of my favorite grow journal and your plants have been one of the most beautiful I saw on any forum. I never saw any pineapple express grown as good as yours!
Terrific post back there MrS...bookmarked that.
Do you live in a dome somewhere? Beyond the lovely green color, there doesn't seem to be an insect anywhere near your plants. Flash and I obviously live in the real world, but your plants seem to be in an insect-free zone.
Haha for real!
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lol, man I had no idea what you were talking about. Then I had to go back and see what pics I put up. I'm such a twit that those pics, and that post for that matter, should be in my other journal. This journal has the 4 plants in the tent, which is why I was confused. Must fix that.Terrific post back there MrS...bookmarked that.
Do you live in a dome somewhere? Beyond the lovely green color, there doesn't seem to be an insect anywhere near your plants. Flash and I obviously live in the real world, but your plants seem to be in an insect-free zone.
Oh I do have some... the trick is a deep verdant paint.
Some really kind words there flash! I appreciate that kudos brutha and glad you enjoyed it as much as I did