Round 2-4140w LED-6x12 Monster SCROG-Hydro Recirculating System-PK-Chernobyl-Berrybom

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You're on top of it bro..
Making me wish I had started these babies like a month earlier.
I'm going to have to veg for an extra month or 2 now before I can throw in flower.
Heck!
 
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Looking great Jon. Is that your mother plants in the soil, or are you going to be growing more in soil in generally?
 
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the white lavender, blue hash, blue og and Jack were free seeds that im going to flower next round, I have high hope for the blue hash and blue og and the other 4 are clones from the 2 chernobyl phenos and the berrybomb im flowering now, I always keep one just incase it turns out to be a keeper. the berrybomb is definetly a contender, its just as dense as the pk, I mean really dense bro hardest nugs Ive ever grown and it smells pretty good, so if its a nice smoke I might keep it for a round or two. I wanted the pink pheno if it exist and I have 6 more berrybomb seeds to try and find it. Im going back to all hydro for the summer so ive been trying to find 2 strains that i really like to keep as mothers in waterfarms for the summer and then try something new when soil isnt such a risk for bugs even though I still got them this round lol...I dont think I ll be keeping either chernobyl unless it floors me theyre nice and frosty but not very dense.
 
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Im seriously thinking about getting some black domina seeds, its a heavy hitting pure indica and finishes at the same time as the pk but I still have to 85 fem auto's for my outdoor this year...Faaack so much to do in the next couple months I have to start thinking about mixing up a shitload of soil soon too...I want the outdoor auto's to be water only plants, mixing nutes for 100 plants would be a pain in alot of places lol
 
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Really good to hear the berry bomb's working out and you're pleased with it - I chose it primarily because of the photo (often not the best or most reliable reason.!) The smoke should hopefully be pretty decent though judging from the couple of bowls I had of very very immature, un-flushed top the other day.

I really hope you manage to find the purple pheno, that would be a pleasure to see!
 
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Wow, 85! You're going to be busy! Don't blame you for not wanting to mix nutes for them all, that would be a full time job in itself
 
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I feel you Jon, life can get so hectic out of nowhere lol.

Your photos look fantastic! and you will love the BPN! Did you get enough for a while? We should be getting ours around the same time! (hopefully 14th for me). I just got 75 Bubba Kush babies on Wednesday and it took me 8.5 hours to transplant lol. I better figure out a good watering system fast :hmmmm:
 
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jon705 said:
thats right Hiker,its a 4x4 flood and drain table.that white material is ice shield for roofs works like a charm and the netpots are siting right on the bottom thats why the roots dont look very big I keep twisting the net pots to keep them from getting tangle so theyre a solid mass under the net pot. It eliminates alot of veg time this way, if you leave your girls in the cloner longer and put them right in the flower room your still going to have to veg them for a month or so?they go into 10 inch net pots in the flower room:)
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Why the month veg?

I'd like to not veg in my flowering room anymore. I did this time because it was the first batch of seeds. From here out I'm using clones. The goal is to get a rotation going, so I just need to figure out how much veg time they will need, and how I want to do it. Since they will be going into buckets of hydroton, I'd like to avoid rockwool or any other type of media. I don't mind vegging in some netpots with hydroton. A system like yours would work well for me. I ran flood&drain trays for years in SD. When I moved, I just decided to try the buckets and really liked them, so that's what I went with this time. The buckets give you more vertical space in flowering, but for veg I don't need a lot of vertical (smaller plants and flourescents).

Since I'm building a cloner machine, I started wondering if I could use that same concept for a couple weeks of extra veg growth. I figured I could just build a couple more of these cloners with less sites cut into the lid, and just put some nutes in them once the plants root. I'm not going to be growing big bushes, so I don't need much veg time. Just enough to top the plant and then a week for it to recover from that. Maybe a month is about right. hmmmm a tray like yours might be ideal for me. I'm not sure I can swing the $$ to set that up before I harvest though. I may end up having to veg in the buckets again for the second batch. hmmm... still have some things to think about.

Thanks again for letting me bounce ideas off you. I think you and I have a lot of the same beliefs about how to grow, so I value your opinions. :Namaste:

There is a LOT of work when you are starting from scratch LOL
 
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ok I thought you were growing bushes bro. I really like vegging in the table, as long as you keep twisting the plants the roots dont get all tangled up and transplant is easy I just put the smaller netpot right into the bigger net pot and it works great. Once they get into the flower room it takes maybe a week for the roots to reach the bottom of the bucket.you could easily veg a 4x4 with a 8 bulb t5, I use a 400w mh I think they are the same wattage so I like mh better.its definetly alot of work bro,I started out with 2 1000w hps in cool tubes and Ive been reinvesting every grow for over a year now and still have a long way to go lol..I wont be happy until im getting 10pds a round:)
 
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jon705 said:
ok I thought you were growing bushes bro. I really like vegging in the table, as long as you keep twisting the plants the roots dont get all tangled up and transplant is easy I just put the smaller netpot right into the bigger net pot and it works great. Once they get into the flower room it takes maybe a week for the roots to reach the bottom of the bucket.you could easily veg a 4x4 with a 8 bulb t5, I use a 400w mh I think they are the same wattage so I like mh better.its definetly alot of work bro,I started out with 2 1000w hps in cool tubes and Ive been reinvesting every grow for over a year now and still have a long way to go lol..I wont be happy until im getting 10pds a round:)
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I see. Nope. I want to do like a SOG, except veg them for a couple weeks to get 4 main branches instead of 1. With the buckets, I can't get them close enough for single colas without wasting space. I think 4 will work out well, but we will see. It might be a month total to get a rooted clone and then veg it enough to top once. I've got a bunch of clones right now that I will get to test on. :)

10 lbs is a good goal LOL :cheertwo:
 
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Bro quick question if you don't mind, need to run this by you.
So I have been vegging under my 90 w UFO led and a small blue 15w led I am thinking of a few hempies so I need clones and as we know LEDs are the enemy of stretch so I am getting no space to clone what I did is take out the 90 w and just left the 15 w for some stretch hopefully won't take long before I get enough to clone a lil, so you think that will be ok for them a shortage in light ? To stretch ? :Namaste:
 
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Ill let Jon answer his own journal I suppose lol.
But put vaguely, sure will.
 
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Ketama said:
Bro quick question if you don't mind, need to run this by you.
So I have been vegging under my 90 w UFO led and a small blue 15w led I am thinking of a few hempies so I need clones and as we know LEDs are the enemy of stretch so I am getting no space to clone what I did is take out the 90 w and just left the 15 w for some stretch hopefully won't take long before I get enough to clone a lil, so you think that will be ok for them a shortage in light ? To stretch ? :Namaste:
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I dont feel that led's are the "enemy of stretch" look at my hgk and pk, they both stretched alot more than I expected because of that myth.if you leave the plants with the 15 watter only they will definetly stretch but probably not in a good way bro, what I mean is they will probably be really spindely with no strength to the branches.I think "stretch" boils down to genetics.If you want a tall lanky plant get sativa dominant strain like any haze for example. I would get the 90w back in there asap they will probably stretch more than you think,most strains will double in size.If you want tall sog style plants just veg them a little longer and dont train them.hope this helps bro:)
 
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jon705 said:
I dont feel that led's are the "enemy of stretch" look at my hgk and pk, they both stretched alot more than I expected because of that myth.if you leave the plants with the 15 watter only they will definetly stretch but probably not in a good way bro, what I mean is they will probably be really spindely with no strength to the branches.I think "stretch" boils down to genetics.If you want a tall lanky plant get sativa dominant strain like any haze for example. I would get the 90w back in there asap they will probably stretch more than you think,most strains will double in size.If you want tall sog style plants just veg them a little longer and dont train them.hope this helps bro:)
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Bro, are talking about getting them to stretch so you'll have cloning material?

Sorry jon, that question was directed to Ketama.
 
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Ok. Yes u certainly can cut back the lights. As Jon mentioned, doing so for any prolonged period will result in weak.lanky floppy limbs. But for your stated intention it will work just grand. For years if I just needed an extra inchor so to get a clone I'd throw the plant under a cheap 18" strip light with the light 12" away. Always has the length I sought within 36 hours. Then move her back and let her get proper light again.

Now adays the situation doesn't allowed for all this. But I've been running long enough to have a system in place now and rarely have the issue anymore. But on that rare occasion I now simply take a piece of printer paper cut to size then folded in center to a "v" then place it over the branch I want to stretch like a line tent. The paper filters the light causing that branch to.stretch while the.others.go about life. Hope that made sense.

Its not advisable, as a more vigorous plant will produce much more vigorous cuts. But it will definetly work. Low light situations cause unnecessary stress which we all know can have an array of effects on a plant. For this reason I as most always recommended a practice in patience. I'd rather a healthy clone 2 days late than a stressed one a day early every time
 
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wow what a stoner moment I had lol...I totally missed the part about doing it for clones, I still wouldnt do it personally not all clones are created equal.If the mother is weak the clones will be too but thats just my opinion ive never tried what your doing before.I would probably just raise the lights,I bet they would stretch just as much and be healthier.
 
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