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Ahh, sounds like you were having a good time, never need to apologize for that! And I'm always happy to help where I can.Thanks for the help!!
BTW...did I say, looking awesome?!
I just realized I responded so many times hahahaha.
Not sure if I should blame that one on being high as F, possibly a lil drunky drunk or just being air headed.
More than likely it was a combination of all 3. sorry, man!
Again, I do appreciate your help and knowledge!
Hey Jon thanks!Rex, you're the man. So glad you brought up the myths of autos, cuz there really are tons of them. I however disagree with you strongly on planting an auto, or any other pot plant, in the final container.
Not True (in my opinion) In the LEAST, and all of these are floating around in cyberspace:
- don't transplant an auto
- start an auto only in final container
- don't top an auto
- don't top an auto more than once
- don't top an auto more than one node down from the top
- autos need less nutes than photos
- you can't mess up an auto with light in any way
What auto have you messed up with a light? Closest I've come with that was a camera infrared messed it up till I learnt to leave the camera IR off.
how many now have you uppotted? I've been watching your journal and I did see you had up-potted, and remember you saying you had before.All of the above is crap. I've proven it over and over again. And although I agree 1000% on the large final container as the final home, I disagree with the starting it there.
I get much much better results from up-potting.
might be due to my using hydroton as a medium, but I do know that transplanting an auto with a larger root mass into a big bucket of hydroton can stunt an auto. Did that. It's a risk, not a guaranteed outcome.This recent grow I started the Chunkadelic in a one instead of a Dixie to see how that would go, and I'm now convinced that's the way to go with autos - for indoors, start in a one and up pot to a five. As long as you can fill the root ball in a one gallon pot with effective watering in around 20 days, you're good. I do it every time now. Just my opinion, not saying you're wrong, if starting your plants in the final container works for you, great. And maybe in non-soil mediums it's different.
Well then sir, at some point in the future we should work on a bit of a collaboration. If you want we can work out the details in my other journal or via PM.But the trade off for not up potting is having to work a root ball in a huge pot with a tiny plant, and that's a challenge that is easily avoided by up potting, not to mention that a strong one gallon root ball going into a five beats the crap out of whatever anyone can do with it in it's final pot in the same amount of time.
thank you for calling me out on it. Seriously, thank you. Talks like this is how progress is made. But I will still standby my earlier advice, and not advise newer growers to transplant autos (except a seedling plug into final container). You might have gotten the timing down right, or have found a good way of doing it. But I think that with the amount of variables, it's not something I'll be recommending, and it's a safe bet right now, as I usually avoid giving soil growing advice.Again, this is just my experience. All of this is a work in progress for all of us I suppose. Thanks for the awesome post and journal, man, I hope you plant to enter it in Jotm when it's finished. Not too many dedicated auto journals here.
I think that's something that I'll keep an open mind for, and won't say that it can't be done, just that it's not something I'd recommend until a few auto grows have been done.
keep pushing the limits brother
From my observations, 24hrs of light at the start of an auto grow is perfectly fine. They loose zero stride and no detrimental effects at this stage.Also, what has your experience been using 24/0? Do you use that only in veg and switch it once they start to bud? How are the plants affected when they get no rest time?
They do need rest. Just the younger ones need less rest then the older ones, and with the ruderalis gene they can rest in bright light. Ill be timing the lighting changes with around stretch. Once that vigourous growth starts, they seem to need a bit more rest. At that point, it's just a waste of electricity keeping the lights on 24hrs.I understand ruderalis naturally grows in climates where they sometimes get up to 20 or 22 hours of light sometimes, but I have been operating under the assumption that even autos need some rest.
id never give less then 18hrs of light, anything less, I think you risk having a smaller yield.I tried 22/2 my first grow and it worked out okay, but then the last ones I've been using 18/6 due to the ease of being able to use the tent while photos are in veg if necessary
im not sure here Jon. The sweet spot is between 18/6 and 20/4 from my observations (depending on stage of the grow). 18/6 seems to be the spot for cost of energy in (electricity wise) and how much the plant actually needs. It's the safest bet for a light schedule (18/6). The strain might play a role, I grow mainly indica dominant hybrids, bit can't say with any certainty.. Personally I'm finding that 18/6 works very well, but I don't have a big enough pool of data yet to draw conclusions. It so easy with an auto to defer to "more light = more better," and I get that, I'm just wondering where the sweet spot is. There has to be one. And I suspect it's different for each strain. Any thoughts on this?
ahh thanks Nancy! Happy to have you here, and don't be shy to ask anything! I'll answer or someone here will. If you decide to do a hydro grow sometime feel free to tag me in!Looking Beautiful Rexer
I mostly grow in soil and have dabbled in hydroponics.
So I am following along to try to learn more and decide what to do for my next grow.
Now if I could just retain what I read that would be helpful. Wishing you a Happy Healthy Grow!
The fruits of your labor will bear the fruits of your success
Your garden is looking great Rexer
My next challenge is to start seeds straight into plugs / hydro. Ive not done that yet. Ive only put clones in the net pots
Thanks brother, the rapid roots made it stupid easy this go around. Easiest start to a grow I've ever had. No need to presoak the seeds.
They'll be my new normal start from this point on.
Thanks James! Call it love at first sight, but I love the rapid pace of an auto. And having a staggered harvest is just wonderful, I hope these don't need chopping the same week. It's a little easier in my body.Rex my friend, looks like you’ve got it going on. I’ve only ran autos once but I’ll be looking into for the future. Would be nice to stagger my harvest out and get a variety going.