Recess Is Over - Now To Muck Up The Lesson

So from what I take from all these stories is if you find a seed in a bag of weed at a Dead concert then its going to be a champion :rofl: seems to be very similar to another story ive heard :rofl:
I know Devils Harvest offer Shoreline, how close it is to the original I wouldn't know, then again probably isn't even skunk and they are just cashing in on the name :rofl:
 
I know.. I imagine there would have been great seeds found at New Riders of the Purple Sage concerts..
 
Here's the thing; The Grateful Dead hailed from Northern California, and that's where Skunk #1, Afghani, NL, et al, were worked, up in the mountains, deep in the forests. When the phenomenon of people following The Dead originated, vending always was a key component. Wether it was coolers full of beer for sale as singles, sold to buy gas for VW microbuses, or Owsley's (which funded The Dead & their equipment for years) (and later The Hog Farm's chemists) LSD America was experiencing a new first: A full blown, traveling underground economy.
Wether it's "Shoreline" (a skunk aka RKS derivative) or "Chemdog" (also a skunk/NL derivative) there was a very constant theme in commercial Tour herb: The majority was Skunk/NL/Haze/Afghani/Paki based, from California growers.

Ok, ☕️

A great book on this subject, by Jarnow:
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I know there's a drug culture that follows bands/scenes but that's word for word same story.. you boys only sell smoke at concerts? Or only the well breed seeded herb?
 
GrizzWald said:
I know there's a drug culture that follows bands/scenes but that's word for word same story.. you boys only sell smoke at concerts? Or only the well breed seeded herb?
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I never sold weed on tour, myself. But I bought lots of it lol.
The traveling hippie circus, courtesy of The Dead, had the side effect of bringing that herb geographically, to places it certainly never would have gotten to otherwise. Where people who would have never seen it otherwise, found random seeds they never would have grown, otherwise. High end Tour weed wasn't seeded per se, but the odd random seed was inevitable, and it left indelible impressions wherever it went-just like the acid did. .
 
Were the grateful dead that big over there? Not so here. I mean, they/jerry is face of psychedelica, and respected. But not sure most would know anything by them. Would you go for the music or the carnival atmosphere? We don't have shit like that here. Small scale, rave scene had a warehouse/complex for couple years, until it became a drug den that cops closed down.. I guess every scene has groupies that follow shit but nothing big and exciting touring the country regularly.. guess that's why two biggest strains both coming from bag weed seed at dead concert sounds foreign to me..
 
Were the grateful dead that big over there?

.They were veryfuckinbig. And the "scene" that followed them around was an ecosystem unto itself even when they weren't touring. I encourage you to read that book Griz.

Not so here. I mean, they/jerry is face of psychedelica, and respected. But not sure most would know anything by them.

.Very much an "American" phenomenon, I assure you.

Would you go for the music or the carnival atmosphere?

.Both. Go for the music, stay for party in the parking lot & nearby campgrounds afterwards. That's how middle America got its acid for decades-Dead Tour.

We don't have shit like that here. Small scale, rave scene had a warehouse/complex for couple years, until it became a drug den that cops closed down..

.America, is kind of... Big. Think of Nimbin as a slightly larger scaled Hog Farm (Google "wavy gravy hog farm") & I think you're on the right track.

I guess every scene has groupies that follow shit but nothing big and exciting touring the country regularly..

.Yeah, the whole Dead Tour scene was a sociological soup (or maybe haggis lmao) of interesting, intertwined tentacles that spread through society & influenced America from The White House to Steve Jobs and Woz @ Apple & much, much more...

guess that's why two biggest strains both coming from bag weed seed at dead concert sounds foreign to me.

.What speaks VOLUMES is that those varietals are still around and still held near & dear even 20-30 years later, and they're from Classic, (basically pre-Neville) stock that today's polys can't hold a fucking candle to.

Ok, ☕️
 
I would have liked to have lived like that, had that type lifestyle available. always wanted to go to Goa for those reasons... then you look around at a house you buying and daughter that doesn't live with ya and you think 'fuck'
 
Something leaded me to you Griz, hope youdon't mind,,, Back when I use to ride with the club in the 70's, we made all the Dead shows as a mandatory club run. Old Club member's been running with the Dead since the Haight.... And Peoples Park over at Bezerkley. Man use to get some great liquid Zen at the concrets. Even had the Dead play at a friend,, 'Pie', RIP my friend,,, funeral in SF.
Fried on my Old Panhead Again...Man thats been along ass time................ The Big Red and White forever...........
Just a drive by, Keepem Green
 
Veering sharply from the current topic; I just saw this jpeg & imo it's a perfect illustration of how "breeding" has hit the shitter. I seriously couldn't stop laughing, but holy shit, this is what people are paying actual money for these days? A bunch of crosses made with an F2 father of a poly-poly hybrid? ("Hey, let's hit our entire mother room with some F2 pollen, & sell the seeds-this is a fantastic idea!") Good Lord. This is a perfect example of a couple of guys who clearly decided to "make a seed company" after one too many rips on a dab rig .
(And I know Twox will be along to defend their choices shortly, and I'll forgive him in advance.)
Good Sunday morning coffee comedy, this seed list.
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Skunkworkz said:
Veering sharply from the current topic; I just saw this jpeg & imo it's a perfect illustration of how "breeding" has hit the shitter. I seriously couldn't stop laughing, but holy shit, this is what people are paying actual money for these days? A bunch of crosses made with an F2 father of a poly-poly hybrid? ("Hey, let's hit our entire mother room with some F2 pollen, & sell the seeds-this is a fantastic idea!") Good Lord. This is a perfect example of a couple of guys who clearly decided to "make a seed company" after one too many rips on a dab rig .
(And I know Twox will be along to defend their choices shortly, and I'll forgive him in advance.)
Good Sunday morning coffee comedy, this seed list.
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That will make for a consistent crop Fucking Brady bunch
 
Norcal :passitleft: welcome man, great to see ya.. I knew you'd have some memory/experience from a dead tour.. :passitleft:
 
I don't know Skunkworkz donvito, some people like lucky dip :rofl: there's a clientele for mix packs of floor seed also :rofl:
 
Dude I use to grow right next to Altamont Raceway... I was all over East Bay till a wreck shut me down. Heaven didn't want me, and hell was afraid I'd take over, so here I am. But I did caught the tail of the Dead Tours. Music has always been one of the biggest thing in my life, cept the outlaw lifestyle. And i never did another person a wrong ever. Now insurance companies,,, I burnt afew................. But is alot of history there in the Raceway. That Stones Concret. Alittle before my time, but I had along of homies I rode with that were there. Bay Area has the music. So many venues there... Funny I was in Santa Rita once and the grey goose come rolling in with abunch of 'Deadheads' paisley print slacks and all... Funny the scooter tramps took them under wing and did protection... Funny I was just listening to a Daviad Allen Coe song
My long hair just can't cover up my redneck..... Great jam...... I can't lie and say I'm behind on your journal, but I am going to go back afew pages and look at some pictures... GL in your gardens and Keepem Green
 
Skunkworkz said:
That, is such an amateur mess, they should know enough to be ashamed. But they clearly don't. Which is either horrible or hilarious.
I'll go with hilarious..
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For growers who don't care for breeding. Even if they pop a few nanners here and there or don't yield as much as others. Couldn't these strains still produce top shelf frosty meds with unique terps and flavors for people looking for a exotic touch of variety? Ive only been growing for a short time but I've gotten 5+ ounces of great bud from some fem seeds in 5 gallon fabric pots of soil. I'm sure some strains yield more but the quality of some of these new hybrids are incredibly frosty and potent. I'm currently testing some IHG and CSI Humboldt gear out now but I do agree with not using fems to breed which seems wrong.
 
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