Recess Is Over - Now To Muck Up The Lesson

This explains the pheno hunting well.. a post I found from l33t, copied & pasted

Well its not that shocking cause when you 'hear 1 in 10 is a keeper' , it means that 1 in 10 will be satisfactory in all areas , smoke effect but growth and flowering times as well .On top of that its the yield and so on..So 1 in 10 doesn't mean only 1 in 10 is good smoke or a good plant but 1 will be 'better' and more 'suitable' to keep than the rest . For instance shanti says discard anything that goes beyond 14-16 weeks , but this doesnt mean that the slower ones are less good smoke wise.. its just for practical reasons you need to discard them as the return is relatively low . Now with SSH things are different almost all plants are keepers , you can find fast 8-9 weekers , skunk dominant plants or Hazyt plants , plenty good plants to choose from in a pack. Even the 'worst' SSH f1 is a good plant in general , and can easily compete many from the strains out there but with the Nevs the 'worse' plant is quite impractical and thus you need to be more strict when selecting. The 25% you refer to I think goes to fast finishers' ratio. Like shanti says only 1/4 (25%) of the f1 plants will finish before 14-16wks and it is recommended to select from those fast ones.
Things are relative as you say , even the Nevs which is from the least stable MNS hybrids , is still quite stable if you think about there is a keeper in every pack. Now what is a 'keeper'? Well it depends on what you look for and its subjective . Someone may care for yields more than quality or simply doing a different compromise . But there are objective reasons why one would cull a plant. Like plant resistance/yield/vigor/flower fastness etc

If you compare say mns SSH to StrainX from Xseeds , which sucks , then perhaps all the SSH F1's could be considered as Keepers simply cause they are way better than strainX.. But if you grow 100 SSH F1 you can easily see that some plants are just better than others. After the initial selection what comes to play is personal taste. Some will select a plant over a different one just cause they liked the smell better etc But if you grow enough strains and large numbers with time you get a feeling on how strict you must be during the selection process. It all heavily depends on numbers.

I've tried to rate jandre Kush. it looks like 1:8 Some long, some too chemical, one WAY TOO CHEESY, and one that finishes way too quickly. Got these little ropy buds. Trichs are good, just not there yield wise. I'm hoping my F2 and yours will make a lot more stable F3. By the time it's down to F5, should have a pretty good 1:5, hoping for 1:3.
 
Here's the boys.. I've just got home,picked daughter up from school so no time to really look, except at these photos I took.. bushier one might be a hermi male, I'll study when I can and throw if it is..
jandre kush f1's..... green crack (green fluffy bunnies) x sour diesel
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There's lots of nice plants in your f1 jandre.. seems two phenos I'm seeing initially.. a bigger bushier plant and a more sativa one.. i don't think I'm getting purple but still early days.. lights come on in a few hours, can't wait to see them (hopefully still alive)...
 
My opinion: Cull right, harvest pollen for left. Bushier growth, and looks like hardier flowering as well.


Looking EXTREMELY healthy. What are the environs? Any ferts? How many days 'til flower. They look like same time, ya? See any trace of that blue? Do the males smell at all?

Shit, I'll stop. Excited as HELL!


P.S. Green Fluffy Bunnies x Sour Diesel
 
Green fluffy bunnies.. I was going to look back and see too, oh well. We list mother x father.. mum and dad in Australia.. ... the left would be better growth wise but I'll make sure no pistil development amongst flowers..week of stress test. been under that window in bathroom.. lights on was 8pm- 7am, now they on sunlight hours.. haven't feed anything really, some fish and kelp, may have splashed some phos last watering.. smell, stem rub, both similar, bushier one has a lemon/tyme type smell, other has same with a greasy end to it.. purple stem coming through, could be deficiency, I'll watch..
 
Damn my memory shot but now you say it I remember and was the whole reason I was happy with the cross. SD father.. be hard to find a mother (unless some balls don't faze you)..
thanks blaze..
 
Just harvest the pollen, put in waterproof/airtight container and purge all the air for storage. If you can, make a little space in a deep freeze, or the back of your frost-free refrigerator's freezer, up by the cold-air vent.

Now to find a mother: what I do is top a kid sister, root the top, flower it out, smoke it, and decide, Keeper/No. If it's a keeper, I have the bottom still in veg.

Now this is where impeccable records keeping comes into play. I usually number ladies (F101, F102, F103, etc...) so I don't get lost I make 2 tags one for the kid sister, and one for her top going into flower... That way after flower, the tag goes into the jar for the cure, and I can write down the numbers I like after smoking and analyzing... if I think one could be higher in CBD (high is kinda weird, and short), I send it out to the lab for GC testing.

All numbers that I like, get narrowed down to the ones that I LOVE. Kid sisters go into flower, 2 weeks later, flowers get dusted with stored pollen from selected dads, and F2's are on the way.

Numbering on those will be F201, F202, F203, etc... Next Gen will be F301, F302, F303, etc... and onward toward the magic F5.

Usually by that time the strain is pretty stable.
 
Hey Grizz, all good buddy? Gotta love working Saturdays, NOT, hanging out for my midday Nana nap.
 
Hey Grizz! :ciao:

How's tricks? You've got some boys going also :thumb:

My UDC was a bloke and I turfed him into Narnia a couple of weeks ago. Only problem is I've been down there only once to water it as the place is seriously overgrown with all sorts. Also I sort of fractured its top while moving it....will go and check it tomorrow and give it a feed; hope it's alive.

Hope you had a good week :Namaste:
 
Nooo, that's un-Australian Blacksmith :rofl::rofl: im going to try my hardest today to avoid the nana nap.. how's girls mate? Harvested any yet or full moon wait or another month?


Bapple..hi :waving smiley face at Bapple:he'll be right.best things about boys is what we want to harvest only requires minimal amount.. I got a fright when I read the word fractured then a relief to find it wasn't bones.. hope your well..
 
all testing will be done with eyes nose and bong..
 
No harvest yet, gold leaf is about 5% amber, so maybe next weekend, the next closest are the lemon kush at about 2 weeks, the rest, who knows, hoping for clear weather, but you know Melbourne, any things possible.
 
Sorry mate I thought I posted reply yesterday.. season although starting crap is being very kind in the finishing aspect (for vics) march didn't have that two weeks of shite like it usually does.. apparently April is going to be dry also so you might have a great finish mate.. I've got my bong crossed for ya :rofl::passitleft:
 
I finally got time to go into flower tent and get everything sorted.. got plants out of their torture chambers and put them into bigger homes. Took some cuttings off of berry bomb and have thenm on window sill, hopefully root.. quick photos nothing special but coming along nicely.. these girls have been in 1lt pots or 3lt pots.. now 10 orange 16 grey.. two plants here are exceptional so far, another three are really good although bit branches.. Others haven't shown anything of interest yet.. jandre kush. Around day 15 flower,6 for two small ones (I don't think seen in photo) hope all are welk, just turned 4 in morning,I better hit the road. Last week woohooo..

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Have a great week Grizz
 
I've just been lurking these forums kinda gathering my knowledge before I can come up with a journo of my own. But i kind of picked up where my dad left off since he loved watching the grass grow from sow to harvest.


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It's on my shopping list for the weekend. Bag of perlite. Bag of hydroton. And nutes. And will check out what else is going on. Might get a 150w Fluro and reflector for the grow tent.


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Hey I run hydroton but what ratio do u use for perlite and hydroton togather.


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