QT's Second Grow - 1st Journal

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QueenTokelove said:
Thanks X for the info. I'll have to check those things out. What about when Pistils start to turn orange?
OMM, thanks. Hope they look good enough to enter contest. GT, why jealous? Because she caught me staring at your, err, ummm, Buds!:thumb:
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Hey there Queen:circle-of-love:


At this point I would only pluck off yellowing leaves if they were blocking a bud site or more than 70% affected. Towards the end of the life cycle, plants start to cannibalize themselves..this is caused by flushing, or just the natural autumning off. The last 2 days during life is when I would pluck off almost all the fan leaves (gets it out of the way and makes manicuring easier and faster)...

Now for drying I believe a good guideline is for every 10% of RH, add 1 day, and then one more at the end..ie, 40% RH would be 5 days, 60% RH would be 7 etc..
I'm sure some people might disagree with this but it's what I found to work well....Again this is all just my honest opinion:Namaste::love:
 
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I have to tell you to be very patient QTL. If you harvest too early, your yield and quality will be greatly affected. An extra week will make all the difference in weight, smell, and quality. I like a couch lock/narcotic high myself. I knew a guy that once got a little paranoid and harvested too early (about a week) and quality and yield was way lower than it should have been. In fact, that guy named his buds "trick weed" because they looked so good but the smoke was not that great...kind of like one of those telescopes you put to your eye and it leaves a ring.....trick weed lol.

The reason I say this is that judging by your latest pics, they need a couple more weeks. they will swell really big in the near future :)
 
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Blue Planet Nutrients said:
I have to tell you to be very patient QTL. If you harvest too early, your yield and quality will be greatly affected. An extra week will make all the difference in weight, smell, and quality. I like a couch lock/narcotic high myself. I knew a guy that once got a little paranoid and harvested too early (about a week) and quality and yield was way lower than it should have been. In fact, that guy named his buds "trick weed" because they looked so good but the smoke was not that great...kind of like one of those telescopes you put to your eye and it leaves a ring.....trick weed lol.

The reason I say this is that judging by your latest pics, they need a couple more weeks. they will swell really big in the near future :)
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Great point, those do look like a couple of weeks or possibly more away in the last pics. :thumb:
 
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Ladies look beautiful QTL, agree with the others that they need more time x's post covers the tricomes I don't tend to pay much notice to te pistils in fact I like my pistils to have retracted back in to the calyx this way you know they are as swell as they are going to get. Your on the right track keep them going :thumb:
 
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Thanks guys for the input. I know they're not ready now. Tomorrow is the beginning of week 7 for them. I was thinking of harvesting at week 10, but wanted to make sure that I wouldn't lose thc if I kept them in flower that long.
 
QueenTokelove said:
Thanks guys for the input. I know they're not ready now. Tomorrow is the beginning of week 7 for them. I was thinking of harvesting at week 10, but wanted to make sure that I wouldn't lose thc if I kept them in flower that long.
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You might... 2 more weeks would be a full 8 weeks, 10 would be 4 more weeks or so and that might be too long - cause you to lose potency, but some depends on the high/effect you want. Longer flowering will make it more couchlock, but a bit less thc/psychoactive properties.
 
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Hey Queenie, I haven't stopped by much because I thought you couldn't post.

Thanks guys for the input. I know they're not ready now. Tomorrow is the beginning of week 7 for them. I was thinking of harvesting at week 10, but wanted to make sure that I wouldn't lose thc if I kept them in flower that long.
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The only way THC degrades is when it starts oxidizing into CBD, CBN, etc. If the trichomes aren't turning amber, the THC isn't degrading. It's as simple as that. Look at this

G13 Haze Trichomes (week 15 of flowering)

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You read that right! My crop is in its 16th week of flowering and the trichomes still haven't turned amber. This is a Sativa strain, so it's not as surprising as it may seem. I've sampled some of the 15th week flowers and they are almost pure THC! A very nice high. (I'm aiming for 17 weeks of flowering total.)

May last crop was all Indica and I flowered them for 12 weeks. That was probably a bit long.

If you're worried that the THC will degrade and disappear somehow, it ain't gonna happen. The only way it can degrade is to turn into one of the other cannabanoids. When they happens the trichomes will .....

Guess what? Turn amber! No amber, no THC degradation. Period!

Xlr8 or whoever said "don't harvest too soon" is right. These plants pack on a lot of weight the last two weeks.

After you do the final flush, continue using Blackstrap Molasses. A lot of growers insist on nothing but water. The reason you don't use nutrients the last week or two is because you do not want to add any nitrogen to the soil. Nitrogen makes the smoke harsh, so you don't want to add any more to the soil. As the plants have no sources of nitrogen, they will start consuming the fan leaves, which is why they turn brown and fall off after you flush. (Also because the plant is ending its flowering cycle.)

However, they still need energy for THC production and what they hope is seed production. Adding Blackstrap Molasses will provide the plant with some essential sugars to give it the energy it needs for this final push. Some companies sell a "Carbo load" supplement to use for flowering. Guess what it is? Blackstrap Molasses or some other form of sugar.

I know money is tight now, but when things improve (and they will!), you might want to plan to get either Canna's PK13/14 or Advanced Nutrients Overdrive. Both of these are geared towards potassium and phosphorus with virtually no nitrogen. MJ uses lots of potassium and phosphorus for flowering and these supplements help provide it. It's not necessary, but it might pack a little weight on your next grow.

What you can do on the cheap is make ...


A Carbon Dioxide Bubbler

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Take a couple ounces of sugar and dissolve it it very warm water, then add some Bakers Yeast, the same kind you use for making bread. Don't use the Quick Rise or Pizza Dough types. The traditional works best.

After the yeast becomes active, put it in a glass bottle (I use empty mineral water bottles) and put aluminum foil over the top. Punch a couple of holes in the foil with a needle. The top serves too purposes:
1) It will force the CO2 out through the holes dispersing it around your plants;
2) It will keep the yeast solution from evaporating, which would lower its temperature and retard the fermentation.

I use five of these bubblers: 4 in my flower room and one in my veg room. Using a bubbler for vegetation is probably overkill, but for flowering it can make a big difference. Plants use CO2 in photosynthesis to make simple sugars. These sugars are then converted into amino acids, which are the building blocks of proteins. The plant uses these proteins to make cellulose, the stucture of stems and leaves, chlorophyll, etc. and, of course, THC.

If your flower space is fairly contained, you can double the amount of CO2 concentration in the room using these bubblers.

More CO2 ====> More THC​



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Yes Grant, it was Cannavanna. She has some brown spots on upper fan leaves. She has been getting calmag and molasses like the rest of them. But she still seems to be doing fine. Miss Bud, eh bit of an issue since I don't have a hygrometer yet and most likely won't have one by harvest. I was thinking of using those plastic thingies they use in pill bottles to keep moisture out or even rice in the jar with buds? And if I pull the yellow leaves off your namesake she will be naked and just buds.

I dunno now whether to wait 10 weeks or harvest at 8? I want some amber trichs mixed with cloudy. But thanks guys for input.
 
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I guess you can call this a mini smoke update. I picked a few side nugs off of Miss Budd. Quick dried in the oven. The smoke was very smooth and the high lasted a few hours. To me it was a combo of heady high and just a wee bit of couchlock. The bf says couchlock. I am going with harvest on week 9. I think I got some great bud from bagseed, glad I cloned her. Next will be sampling from Cannavanna.
 
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I dunno now whether to wait 10 weeks or harvest at 8? I want some amber trichs mixed with cloudy. But thanks guys for input.
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You can sample a few buds. What I do is cut off a few buds, put them in a paper bag and leave the bag in the flowering room (or wherever else it's warm).

By the next day, the buds will be fairly dry. You can usually smoke them just the way they are. If your humidity's high, it might take longer for you to get high!

Also, if they're a bit damp, you can grind them up with some "older" weed you have lying around. You can then smoke it.

Pretend you're a wine taster wondering when's the best time to bottle your product. Just don't spit on the floor!
 
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Ha,good one. I sampled a little of Cannavanna, heady high but don't have anything on Miss Budd. Now I gotta sample Baby Miwa,who has a faint aroma of cat piss...lol..the things I do.
 
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Kaiser Sose 3 said:
Cat Piss? Poor Baby Miwa....
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LOL, not saying my cat pissed on Baby Miwa, just the way she smells. Kharma has turned into a guard kitty. He stays posted outside of flowering room and if I leave door open he likes to lay in the light from hps.
 
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Every time I see plants covered in leaves now, my fingers git itchy to start plucking the hell out of them.

Nice grow ya got there QTL
 
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Bassman59 said:
Every time I see plants covered in leaves now, my fingers git itchy to start plucking the hell out of them.

Nice grow ya got there QTL
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Thanks Bassman. I am so dying to pluck them off. The yellowing leaves just look ugly. But they are mainly by nodes. But yet I see people on here with plants plucked before harvest. So I am a bit confused by this.
 

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