I grow in soil so if you want to get plants that look like mine then do what i say.
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Soil changes when adding water first by flushing salts away from roots balancing ph and removing extra nutrients.
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I am so down guys with my grow tent...I cant have 2 people arguing over a flush. I did the flush using RO phed to 6.3 and this was wrong. It was wrong because it was performed with RO phed water and from the test i performed with RO it looks like that phed 6.3 aerated RO water drops down the next day propably to 6!
Ok. FLushing with this kind of method is wrong.
Nice plants. They remind me of my previous grows
What is going on guys...Help me survive here....Im losing my religion...
Ok. FLushing with this kind of method is wrong.
Nice plants. They remind me of my previous grows
What is going on guys...Help me survive here....Im losing my religion...
That's from one of our sponsors flush your medium if you want results like me.
So pics of 1 plant is all you got? Seriously?
All good brother if you wanna understand how water flowing thru soil read up on CEC also know as Cation Exchange Capacity.
The ONLY thing you can flush out of soil with water is excess Nitrogen. Cannabis plants need very little N in flower because they stored the N in the large fan leaves early on in VEG.
That said, IF the soil is sandy and has very little SOM (soil organic matter) you might be able to flush out some excess N. If the soil has any amount of SOM in it, nothing will flush out. The fertilizer is bound to soil particles in a chemical process (CEC) and cannot be changed with water or leached out or flushed whatever you want to call it.
Its science.
Here's a good read, skip down to page 7 on CEC but the whole article is very informative and what they are teaching in soil science class at university these days:
https://casfs.ucsc.edu/about/public...-Farming/PDF-downloads/2.2-soil-chemistry.pdf
All good brother if you wanna understand how water flowing thru soil read up on CEC also know as Cation Exchange Capacity.
The ONLY thing you can flush out of soil with water is excess Nitrogen. Cannabis plants need very little N in flower because they stored the N in the large fan leaves early on in VEG.
That said, IF the soil is sandy and has very little SOM (soil organic matter) you might be able to flush out some excess N. If the soil has any amount of SOM in it, nothing will flush out. The fertilizer is bound to soil particles in a chemical process (CEC) and cannot be changed with water or leached out or flushed whatever you want to call it.
Its science.
Here's a good read, skip down to page 7 on CEC but the whole article is very informative and what they are teaching in soil science class at university these days:
https://casfs.ucsc.edu/about/public...-Farming/PDF-downloads/2.2-soil-chemistry.pdf
I wrote that flushing is not what you think it is and backed it up with science.
Thats all I got.
And of course this
Thats all I got.
And of course this
Bob your wrong this conversations over.
lol you're close minded.
So all the Doctors that study this stuff are full of BS?
So all the Doctors that study this stuff are full of BS?
Wow get over it.
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So what im gonna do next?
Its up to you.
Neither of us are trying to steer you wrong we just have different opinions as such and i know flushing when i'm having issues always fixes them.
Water added to the soil flushing or not will force the plant to pull up more plain water then nutrient water which will help your plant recover if its overfed or has salt build up.
So whether the science says you cannot flush nutrients from the soil you can make the plant pull more plain water.
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Sweet. I will stop giving plain ro water as it seems to fucking up the ph. I will let you guys know how its going in a week. Peace
Perfect flower!I wrote that flushing is not what you think it is and backed it up with science.
Thats all I got.
And of course this
Wow get over it.
I'm trying brother I'm trying. Still keep stumbling on flush on cannabis only related websites.
I think this flush thing comes out of the Hydroponic growing technique that was popular in the 80s in Canada. Somehow the flushing process morphed into soil grown cannabis for some weird reason in the states. These 2 growing processes are distinctly different in approach and chemistry.
Backed up with "I watered my plants now they are growing even better".
I water my plants with an automated process. They drink A LOT more water in flower. I would say likely 2-3 times more in flower than in VEG. So I would argue that flushing is actually giving the plants more water right at the time they need it the most.
Going down the stretch I've seen my flowering plants drink upwards of more than a gallon per plant per DAY. This is how I know they are close to harvest, when they stop drinking a lot of water. So my argument on the "its working" is basically down to the farmer giving the plants enough water right at a crucial time - the last few weeks of flower.
Your plants look fine. Its hard to compare 1 grow to another with your memory of events that happened months ago. Everything would have to be the same in the grow. Very difficult to get there but its doable for sure.
My main goal is repeatable result. There's a whole shit load of science on that topic too.
So @Known going forward since your plants are fine just enjoy what you're doing and keep doing it until the plants tell you different.
On the watering thing I see what looks like CLAY pots you're growing in??
They are GREAT at letting moisture evaporate out of the soil thru the clay. At your next up-pot go to cloth bags which are popular or hard plastic pots. If you want to stay in the clay you will need to water more frequently.
IF they are plastic clay LOOK pots disregard what I've said here on that regard. My very first grow I tried clay. I gave them away as soon as I could. I got terrible results from under watering.