Feel free to experiment with different products if you like, but the recipe link I posted is tried and true. From the posts that you make, I'm not sure you are cut out for experimentation 
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Experiment only when time is available....Only trying to bond all the things in my head together
You mention you are doing soilless youself. Have you made a slurry test of your mix? Where does it sit?
You mention you are doing soilless youself. Have you made a slurry test of your mix? Where does it sit?
I don't bother. My plants look like yours...fine!
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REALLY???????????????????????????
NO WAY i dont believe that!
NO WAY i dont believe that!
I don't think you believe much!
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I try to but its not easy with me buddy
That's the feeling I'm getting 
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Atleast i found something that makes me feel good, but not right now
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19 days, 12cm on the left, 9 cm on the right
19 days, 12cm on the left, 9 cm on the right
Dropped out earlier as in shed has said in a previous reply it seemed like we where going round in circles.
Can't see a pH issue hear. Look really good tbh mate (look at some others plants on here... These are going well) .
I think your really over thinking things.
If I was you I would try to forget about everything else and just feed these recently potted plants pH 6 with what ever feed nutes you have been doing.
Yeah mate.. You need to either grow living soil (compost mix with no bottled/salt nutes and no acids for pH adjustment)
Or go in a soiless (peat based), and adjust your nutrient level and pH.
Whichever you choose try to put the other methods to the back of your head, your confusing yourself badly here.
These plants look great though mate.
All the best.
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Guys, i see improvement signs....Im holding a small basket still....Will post some photos after some days but i feel a biiiiiig relief finally
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Found a soil FINALLY!!!!!! Just made the SLURRY TEST!!! 10g of the medium with 100ml RO water, stir well and take the reading 1 hour later!!!
PH 6.2
EC 0.5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Floragard Floraton3 70 liter sack - ideal for cold frames as substrate & for sowing
Ingredients:
White peat, clay sludge, 0.4 kg / m³ PG mix (18/10/20)
Raw materials with their effect in the substrate:
Little to moderately decomposed peat bog (white peat) increases the air capacity and improves the structural stability
Additives
Highly sorbent clay slurries can be distributed very homogeneously in the substrate. Counteracts with high buffer capacity - salt and pH fluctuations.
Carbonated lime optimally adjusts the pH value to the respective plant needs.
A very low dose of multi-nutrient fertilizer supplies the plants with all main and trace nutrients in an immediately available form.
Micro nutrient fertilizers also supply the plants with: Mg, B, Cu, Mn, Mo, Fe and Zn
Properties (at the time of manufacture) *:
pH value (CaCl2): 5.8 Salinity
(g / l): 1.0
N nitrogen (CaCl2) (mg / l): 100
P2O5 phosphate (CAL) (mg / l): 60
K2O potassium oxide ( CAL) (mg / l): 110
Structure: fine
PH 6.2
EC 0.5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Floragard Floraton3 70 liter sack - ideal for cold frames as substrate & for sowing
Ingredients:
White peat, clay sludge, 0.4 kg / m³ PG mix (18/10/20)
Raw materials with their effect in the substrate:
Little to moderately decomposed peat bog (white peat) increases the air capacity and improves the structural stability
Additives
Highly sorbent clay slurries can be distributed very homogeneously in the substrate. Counteracts with high buffer capacity - salt and pH fluctuations.
Carbonated lime optimally adjusts the pH value to the respective plant needs.
A very low dose of multi-nutrient fertilizer supplies the plants with all main and trace nutrients in an immediately available form.
Micro nutrient fertilizers also supply the plants with: Mg, B, Cu, Mn, Mo, Fe and Zn
Properties (at the time of manufacture) *:
pH value (CaCl2): 5.8 Salinity
(g / l): 1.0
N nitrogen (CaCl2) (mg / l): 100
P2O5 phosphate (CAL) (mg / l): 60
K2O potassium oxide ( CAL) (mg / l): 110
Structure: fine
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OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 
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The thing that you might want to look at with that is adding a lot of perlite for drainage. They intentionally added clay to it for water retention, and that not usually what we want. Slow draining media can lead to wet roots and slow growth.
Just my take on that one.
Just my take on that one.
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When i was reading the package i didnt see any clay on it!!! The information i provided in my previous post was copy paste from a page in internet. After a little research this morning, i found out that in floragard official they have listed 8 products with the same picture of package but with different recipe number!!!!
I just made a call to floragard provided them with EAN number, country, and the shop name i bought it from and they will sent me an email with the right information
What a mess!!
On the package i dont read anywhere about clay! Even in my language and in english language they mention only about peat....
This is what it says:
''A mixture of slightly and fully decomposed raised-bog-peat, with well-balanced trace nutrients; Floradur Cutting additionally with sand and perlite, Floraton 1, Floraton 3 additionaly with clay''!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think i dont have Floraton 1 or Floraton 3!!!!!!
We should see!!!!!!!!
On the side note, the gemms putting on height, 1cm over night!!!!!!!! Cant wait to make the second feeding in the plagron light mix and the compo sana, although compo sana is in 30litre pots so it will take more days to dry
I just made a call to floragard provided them with EAN number, country, and the shop name i bought it from and they will sent me an email with the right information
What a mess!!
On the package i dont read anywhere about clay! Even in my language and in english language they mention only about peat....
This is what it says:
''A mixture of slightly and fully decomposed raised-bog-peat, with well-balanced trace nutrients; Floradur Cutting additionally with sand and perlite, Floraton 1, Floraton 3 additionaly with clay''!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think i dont have Floraton 1 or Floraton 3!!!!!!
We should see!!!!!!!!
On the side note, the gemms putting on height, 1cm over night!!!!!!!! Cant wait to make the second feeding in the plagron light mix and the compo sana, although compo sana is in 30litre pots so it will take more days to dry
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@InTheShed @Emilya hello people!
I found an article, posted a few days ago, on February 13 about soilless ph range...
The writer claims best ph range for soilless medium (65% - 75% peat, perlite, dolomite, wetting agent) is 6 - 6.5 PH.
The writer claims also to use 6.4 PH for VEG and low it to 6.2 PH for BLOOM.
I used the 6 PH as @InTheShed told me to and now im in bloom looking almost good. I have 4 plants in bloom and 2 of them stretched a lot and have a lot of space between the bud development. This tells me they are mostly sativa dna. I have 1 that has fantastic bud development close to each other, i think this one is the Gorilla. The last plant is 14 days in bloom and havent even formed the white hairy ball, it started doing it tho but also this one didnt stretched much!! Very short for 2 weeks in 12/12. Also this plant has a run off 5.6 PH with 6 PH going in and also has a run off EC of 2300 ppm (500ppm convertion)!!!!!
Anyway i would like to hear your opinion for this article i posted above!!!
I found an article, posted a few days ago, on February 13 about soilless ph range...
Soilless Medium & pH Relationship - Cannabis Related Reviews
Understanding your soilless medium pH and nutrient availablity. Best cannabis pH range for soilless, soil and hydronic growing. Cannabis Seeds for Sale!
healthycannabisreview.com
The writer claims best ph range for soilless medium (65% - 75% peat, perlite, dolomite, wetting agent) is 6 - 6.5 PH.
The writer claims also to use 6.4 PH for VEG and low it to 6.2 PH for BLOOM.
I used the 6 PH as @InTheShed told me to and now im in bloom looking almost good. I have 4 plants in bloom and 2 of them stretched a lot and have a lot of space between the bud development. This tells me they are mostly sativa dna. I have 1 that has fantastic bud development close to each other, i think this one is the Gorilla. The last plant is 14 days in bloom and havent even formed the white hairy ball, it started doing it tho but also this one didnt stretched much!! Very short for 2 weeks in 12/12. Also this plant has a run off 5.6 PH with 6 PH going in and also has a run off EC of 2300 ppm (500ppm convertion)!!!!!
Anyway i would like to hear your opinion for this article i posted above!!!
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I agree with the article, but I don't think you understand what it says. It is talking about the pH of the medium, NOT the pH that you should adjust your fluids to. If you wish to drift your nutrients through a large part of the usable pH range for maximum availability, you need to work with this medium's pH to make that happen, by coming in at 5.8pH ... but I don't want to argue about this. If you have found a method that works for you within this medium, go for it. If you ever want to try to optimize your grows a bit more, working to get the most and best out of your grows... look into this subject a little deeper and try to understand what I have said here about drift and availability.
Beware of writers that you follow... this writer you have quoted has just one opinion out of many, and that article is no more important than some of mine that have gotten hundreds of thousands of views over the years. Trust nothing you read, including my words. Experiment where you can and try to figure out what is true and what is not.
Beware of writers that you follow... this writer you have quoted has just one opinion out of many, and that article is no more important than some of mine that have gotten hundreds of thousands of views over the years. Trust nothing you read, including my words. Experiment where you can and try to figure out what is true and what is not.
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@Emilya I am still trying to understand this medium because i can find it easily here and its all year round in stock!!
Still cant understand tho, reading this and that makes me really confused!!
The medium i have has a PH of 5.7
You think a 5.8 feeding from VEG to Harvest will be a good move? The medium is saturated well with dolomite and it keeps the PH stable after 3 months of feedings!!
Still cant understand tho, reading this and that makes me really confused!!
The medium i have has a PH of 5.7
You think a 5.8 feeding from VEG to Harvest will be a good move? The medium is saturated well with dolomite and it keeps the PH stable after 3 months of feedings!!
