Plant Growth Regulators

[Skybound]

I was checking out a couple videos today of alfalfa teas for the natural triacontanol. It looks fun growing that way, but sadly I live in the city so my abilities are greatly restricted. I'd love to live in the country though and hope one day I will. I'm only planning to use Tria in moderation, weeks between sprays, and likely only for certain strains. It seems that all the various hormones/PGRs work fantastic when used in honest moderation. Ultimately it will come down to the user to not get carried away with the strength or application practices.

 

[bobrown14]

I live in the city. Alfalfa tea meh... too hot you have to be careful with it. High N.


I make kelp tea in the kitchen. It's got a lot of PGRs in it.


You can make a tea with either like this.


Kelp meal ground fine in coffee grinder - add about 1/2 cup to a quart mason jar, add water to full.

Let steep like that in the fridge.

The water/clear liquid that separates - thats the part you want. (can add the kelp to your soil).

Dilute: 1/4 cup to a gallon of water and foiler on.

Can water in too. Where do you want the PGRs at the roots or the shoots? or both. Foiler for the shoots and water in for the roots.

If what you want for plant growth and yields. Try the kelp tea.

If you want growth and/or more bio-mass look for Auxins.

 

[Skybound]

Any of these?

 

[Skybound]

This one looks interesting too!

 

[safeman]

one can make plant growth regulators" by brewing alfalfa to make triacontal (a natural PGR) have contacted many companies about this and asked them about PGR's both companies: Mammonth, Soil Balance, Massive Bloom have microbes in them no PGR's stated by them

 

[safeman]

Any of these?

Triacontanol that's the magic !!

 

[Skybound]

one can make plant growth regulators" by brewing alfalfa to make triacontal (a natural PGR) have contacted many companies about this and asked them about PGR's both companies: Mammonth, Soil Balance, Massive Bloom have microbes in them no PGR's stated by them

Likely true, but how true? How much ppm of Triacontanol will an alfalfa tea produce and is there any part or practice of making the tea that is critical for success? As best as I know, all purchased concentrate-like hormones are natural products extracted from the plants that produce them. Is it all that different that using various meals in an organic process?

 

[safeman]

Likely true, but how true? How much ppm of Triacontanol will an alfalfa tea produce and is there any part or practice of making the tea that is critical for success? As best as I know, all purchased concentrate-like hormones are natural products extracted from the plants that produce them. Is it all that different that using various meals in an organic process?

the production of is related to the amount of time "brewing" as for the ppm's,never measured them - interesting would not know the correct ppm's

 

[Skybound]

the production of is related to the amount of time "brewing" as for the ppm's,never measured them - interesting would not know the correct ppm's

I guess you'll have to assume it's on the underside of toxic. Have you used the alfalfa tea near harvest? Have you noticed an increase in fox tails?

 

[safeman]

I guess you'll have to assume it's on the underside of toxic. Have you used the alfalfa tea near harvest? Have you noticed an increase in fox tails?

Yes ! no sign of foxtailing have use Mammonth (veg and flower) Massive Bloom (flower only) and have noted a marked increase in plant size but for increased terpene development Soil Balance Pro is the ticket ( a relative new product) ther ahs been some cups won by this product under "best terpene production" last year 2018

 

[Skybound]

FYI, Mammoth P is only good for soil. Hydro nutes already supply the P that the Mammoth unlocks from the soil.

 

[safeman]

FYI, Mammoth P is only good for soil. Hydro nutes already supply the P that the Mammoth unlocks from the soil.

at present use soil - thanks for the info

 

[Nunyabiz]

I use kelp meal, sprouted seed teas from alfalfa and corn, aloe vera and coconut water.
Plus add a pinch of Chitin.

All have natural PGRs.
Been using for 3 years with great results, all 100% organic and natural.

 

[Skybound]

Natural and Organic are relative terms.

 

[Nunyabiz]

Natural and Organic are relative terms.

Can be, but they aren't exactly the same.
I use it just as a figure of speech to mean it's not synthetic.

https://www.cannagardening.com/organic_what_s_the_deal

 

[Skybound]

Not synthetic to the extent that humans aren't directly involved in the synthesizing, but biosynthetics ....

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but to extract a hormone to be mixed another way versus making a tea that also extracts the hormone in my opinion is about the same thing except in one instance the hormone is left with all of the other organic matter and the other instance the hormone has been singled out. The hormones themselves are still natural or organic, existing as fatty alcohols.

 

[safeman]

I use kelp meal, sprouted seed teas from alfalfa and corn, aloe vera and coconut water.
Plus add a pinch of Chitin.

All have natural PGRs.
Been using for 3 years with great results, all 100% organic and natural.

Sure sounds like a very good mix do you know of Kelp4Less? amounts ?

 

[bobrown14]

Likely true, but how true? How much ppm of Triacontanol will an alfalfa tea produce and is there any part or practice of making the tea that is critical for success? As best as I know, all purchased concentrate-like hormones are natural products extracted from the plants that produce them. Is it all that different that using various meals in an organic process?

PGRs can be natural or synthetic (made in a lab).

Malted corn ground fine (or sprouted corn tea (SST) is another source of growth hormones as is Coconut water (pure no preservatives).
Willow shoot tea - I may have mentioned that one.

There are many natural versions that occur in nature.

Roots and shoots is where they are used in the plant. So you can foiler on and/or water in depending on what you want to happen. I mainly foiler them on because I want the work to be done at the shoots. Taking into account I've already developed a strong root system.

Growth hormones aka plant growth regulators. It's good to understand what each of them do. We need all five for our plants to thrive!

Here's an easy read on them:

Plant Hormones: Describing the Big 5

 

[LiberalThinker]

Not synthetic to the extent that humans aren't directly involved in the synthesizing, but biosynthetics ....

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but to extract a hormone to be mixed another way versus making a tea that also extracts the hormone in my opinion is about the same thing except in one instance the hormone is left with all of the other organic matter and the other instance the hormone has been singled out. The hormones themselves are still natural or organic, existing as fatty alcohols.

Ones dirty - organic - and one's clean. In otherwise identical substances, one knows what one is putting in with synthetic and don't have a clue with the other. Having said this, dirt potentially makes the better tasting cannabis.

 

[Skybound]

dirt potentially makes the better tasting cannabis.

This will always stand as true so long as nobody learns the process and emulates it.