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Buds Buddy said:
That's my thoughts too but being cautious because I just up-potted with another 2.5 - 3 gallons of FFOF which has nutes in it also. However, they still look like they need more N to me. I just fed again at 4 grams so I may up it on next feeding unless someone steps in & says that's a bad idea.
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I can say FFOF got my first journal grow through veg and 2 weeks into flower without any discoloring . And they grew quite fast 45d veg. Absolutely nothing added jut phed water.
 
Buds Buddy said:
But they look kind of light colored to me & I'm noticing a slight striping discoloration in the leaves.
Is there a certain ppm I'm shooting for at this stage ?
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There's no problem going to 4.5g and then 5g the following feed. The plant will store the excess which isn't much at this stage since you have been feeding them correctly.

We don't normally follow PPM with MC. I have mine over 1000PPM with a combination of MC and other supplements. I check mine for consistency as it tells me if I made a mistake when mixing.
 
Got home from work & the GG looks terrible. Leaves are all hanging limp. I know I haven't over watered as they all get the same amount at the same times. The other 2 are fine. Never the less I'm not feeding that one for a couple days & see what happens. Don't think it's pH as the other 2 aren't affected. It either went into shock from something or ??? I don't know. It's lights out for the next 6 hours so can't get a pic up till then.
 
Here's the pics. First 3 pics are the Gorilla Glue (Gray Pot). As you can see she doesn't look well at all. Looks over watered to me; but don't see how that's possible when all 3 get watered the same. Also the pot was light as a feather every time I watered. Only thing is maybe too much water / feed at one time. Maybe I need to give that one a little less at a time but more often. Not sure what to think.
There's also 2 pics of each of the other 2 so you can see the difference between them.
Thoughts & suggestions ???
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Was just doing some minor LST on the Gorilla Girl & I have a few leaves turning yellow & one leaf has some reddish brown spots on it. Normally I would add Cal Mag plus. From what you guys say I guess I just need to increase the MC ? MC is going to take some getting use to when you're use to adding Cal Mag, epson salt, molasses, etc. to fix the problem.
I'll probably LST the Afghan Kush tonight also so I can see if anything out of the ordinary is happening with her.
 
Well 2 out of 3 are LST'd. Seeing a lot of lighter colored leaves. Some with darker green stripes in them & a couple with the rusty looking spots. Upping the MC to 4.5 gr. tomorrow. Soil is still a little moist so letting it dry more. The GG isn't getting anything for a couple days because she looks over watered to me. However, there's no discoloration, rusty spots or anything on her leaves. She looks good if she just perks back up. Keeping my fingers crossed I'm right about the droopy leaves. Just wondering if maybe 4 gr. per gallon was too much for her. Happened the day after feeding that amount. Don't believe it has anything to do with RH, Temps or Light as it's all good. RH is 58%, Temps 77 - 81 F, Light 18" above canopy.
Sure wish the GG would perk up as I'm wanting to switch to 12/12. All 3 plants have white hairs coming out so they are ready for the flip as soon as GG straightens her ass up.
 
ganjaguy said:
I think you might gave her a little too much water. Not every plant drinks the same amount and it looks also like the GGlue is the smallest of the three. I would give her less next time.

Did you used the white/grey bag before?
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I've used all the bags before; black ones & gray ones. They get soaked in 5 gallon buckets for a week, washed with Dawn Dish Soap in the sink & then put through the washing machine with no soap, just water. Done it this way over & over & never had a problem with them in the past.
It does look over watered, but doesn't show any signs of improvement so far. Doesn't look any worse either.
 
Buds Buddy said:
I've used all the bags before; black ones & gray ones. They get soaked in 5 gallon buckets for a week, washed with Dawn Dish Soap in the sink & then put through the washing machine with no soap, just water. Done it this way over & over & never had a problem with them in the past.
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Thanks for replying Buds.
I never used nothing but old skool grow pots with drainage, i wanted to try these bags out myself and i was starting to wonder if color might plays a role, root development, root stress due light etc. But if you had no issues in the past than it probably should mather if use black or grey bags.

but doesn't show any signs of improvement so far. Doesn't look any worse either.
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That's good enough as long as it doesn't get worse right. I think it will get better withing 48h :meditate:
 
Hi Buds,
I don't think it's overfeeding. That's not the reaction you would see from a plant that was overfed. If she perks up after watering then it's a lack of water but there's no reason to think that the GG is too small for 4g/gal. I'm sure @farside05 would agree so I'd be looking at some other issue.
 
OK, per the advice given I upped the MC to 4.5 grams per gallon. Decided to check the pH & then adjusted it slightly to 6.4 pH. Also checked ppm. Right at 602 ppm. Ran 2 gallons through 3 plants & got a good 20% run off. Checked pH on the run off & it's way lower than I've ever had it. Afghan kush came back at 5.1, Gorilla Glue at 5.2 & Gorilla Girl at 5.5. That sounds like a Salt Build Up to me & I need to Flush. But once again totally unsure with this MC. Let me know what you think.
I also raised my light about an inch.
 
I can't see needing to clear out the soil at this stage, especially with the low numbers on the MC and the fresh soil you transplanted into.

Also, as far as I know, runoff pH isn't a sign of anything in soil, soilless, or coco.
 
I'm doing what they say & of course they got it right with the under watering. I was thinking it was over watering or a pH issue. Anyway after the really good feeding last night she looks just a little better. Not quite as droopy as she was. So it will probably be just fine in a few days. Thanks guys !!! I was totally off track on that one. I thought I was watering plenty as I always got a little run off; but I guess not.
 
On a brighter note I'm one step closer on my shed / grow room. Got the inside walls up in the main shed area yesterday & will be putting in the ceiling on that part today. Had to do that side 1st to have some place to put things that are in the grow area right now. So next week the walls & ceiling in the grow area & start putting it all together. Getting close.
 
@MrSauga your journal had me laughing my ass off. So much humor. It's like reading a good book. A very long book. Only made it to pg. 10 so far.
 
Buds Buddy said:
@MrSauga your journal had me laughing my ass off. So much humor. It's like reading a good book. A very long book. Only made it to pg. 10 so far.
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I tried to make it serious and after the OP it went downhill fast... that's when the others showed up ;)
 
Buds Buddy said:
I'm doing what they say & of course they got it right with the under watering. I was thinking it was over watering or a pH ..
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Under or over watered.. it appeared to be under watered! ..I was wrong :battingeyelashes:
I had the same issue once when i transplanted, gave it plenty water with runoff and the following two days later it was droopy, i was thinking of over watering so i skipped feeding it. It stayed short and was not keeping up with the rest. I gave it a good water feeding and i was 'sure' that i would drown its roots but funny enough few hours later she perked up. Even tough the plant was the smallest she surprisingly drank the most.
I'm a little disappointed that i wasnt thinking correctly. If it was my plant i would have done the same thing (mistake) This is why is read forums :battingeyelashes: every impulsive grower should gehehe

Glad you figured it out with good help and that the plant is happy again :thumb:
 
It's kind of hard to tell the difference between over & under watering during the 1st few days it's happening. I was searching the "Grow Weed Easy" site at Plant Problems & Symptoms trying to tell the difference by the pics & it even says it's hard to tell the difference. I guess the easiest way to tell is if the leaves were getting lighter colored meaning more water needed or if they stay dark green meaning less water. That's pretty much what I got out of it. I usually go by pot weight. But in those plastic pots they were drying out over night so looking back it makes sense that it was under watered.
 
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