Phenomenawesome's Auto Cannabonanza: GSC, LSD-25, Northern Lights, Diesel In Coco

Re: Phenomenawesome's Auto Cannabonanza - GSC - LSD-25 - Northern Lights - Diesel In

Describe unusual weather. Cooler than Houston Miami Tampa yet more humid..off some lake..
A mystery...

None the less, there’s things you can do. Always.

Some random ideas to consider first, rest inline with your RH and grow.’;;;;;;

Humidity 10-40 leave alone..all humidity is % rh , independent of temperature, air pressure , elevation, etc..
humidity 40-55 sweet spot for comfort.. enjoy it.
Humidity 55-70 , level one lowering methods...
Humidity 71-81, level two lowering methods....
Humidity >>82–99 is considered “condensing mist “ used in special testing, special UL approval and the like.. equipment stuff.
100 it’s raining.. go inside..lol

Method one.
Turn off, remove drain any visible standing evaporating, making things worse water.
Heat the room up, increasIng temperature, every 1-2 F, decreases RH about 1%..plants will love it till 92F many more to 104.. for awhile. Remember the environmental,humidity varies. When it’s worst save delta temp for removing Rh..for awhile. So burn it off. N electric heater with exposed red got wires, visible will burn the crap out of the air. And a bbq gas tank, with redcueder pressure, make a fine torch. The heat lowers Rh, the flame will burn the crap of I’d h2O..lol. Open flame candles if you need 42 candles seems right..about 117 watts of heat. Yes 100 watt incandescent light bulb..s. Turn off led. Ok leave them on.. employ incandescent lights for heat when humid. The surface of the glas need exposed to,air, it burns the crap .....lol
Increase ‘wind speed’ in grow, in space just outside grow. Here we evacuate the grow, making inside grow pressure higher than room, just outside grow. Air goes from grow to room. Both room and from need, heat, ability to remove lol,water, ability to change wind speed. Have positive air flow from grow out. In method one we only heat grow. You can reduce 5-15 % rh this way.

Method two. .

Here we increase method one techniqueS.
Increasing the delta temperature , even more. Heating more is way better than humidity above 71%..
More fan speed indie and out, /increase temperature outside grow now, so two,heater, open up flame, expose more wire.etc.
Here we expect 71- 81 rh for few hours..?....

Ac to de humidify is easy but expensive since the cool /colder air actually increases Rh..too bad. Huh? While the ‘dehumidifier part’ is a secondary process where the water in air hit the cold ass heat exchNger, condensing the water right out of the air as it passes by. You can witness water formation by observing cold ‘coils’ with moist air... so more air is mixed. Please check the water removal pipe in your hvac. Open it up, clean heat exchanger, water and rubbing alcohol, brush, blow air...,often pipe clogs water backs up, and your rh actually increases. A lot. Plus that how legionnaires disease breeds. Bleach any water that looks like crap.
Ok, cool idea. Since it’s the lake that causes the fog/and the humidity,let’s us it, or surrogate to remove water ok?
Run cold water as you can get, like pump/gravity feed from lake, free energy right?, expose metal to cold water//and outside to humid air. Water formation ie lower humidity in the room with metal cold finger adapter... remove water instantly with tubing to second room, then remove from second room to//universe.. outside...away.
Ok evaporate out water using free cool finger not forced air alone ..ok? Tricky with cold air.. vs cold finger..

Best for last but trickier..
Firs don’t kill charcoal filter with over use with humid air. When humid, no need to filter. Terpine/smell/ reduces as water vapor increase. Plus your filling all the billion filter hole wiTh water. Water that’s hard to remove. You can slowly heat carbon filter but they make the cartridge thought to recycle ,,diy.. they want to rob you for each filter not have you re sue charcoal that can be re used about 1000 Times..lol like momma earth..
Instead of charcoal.. place a canister filled with a “salt” .. it removes water. Of course that destroys salt. Throw the 1 cent of salt away,ad 1 cent of salt, continue. Repeat as needed as effective. Right?
So what salt? Any . Kosher. Morton. Epsom.and you use it on girls.. all salt by definition is crystal formed when water was evaporated.. ok cool so well,put some water back.. phenom has way too much it rolls in each night during this season.. let’s salt it out.

Ok you can relate the wet salt Nd re use. This describes a million dollar desiccant humidity removal system. Side by Singapore forces for humidity control. With almost no energy use, of course...oh there is automated. Phenom, your gonna be the brain of the desciant system.procure. Several of the humidity/temp sensors.. /calibrate them//against each other/ as the w-4 % error most have is more than we want. So get 4-9, pace near each other, and select the ‘center’ few for our serious use. Place other for ‘’entertainment value. Ie what’s the temp humidity..lol with some errors...

Ok not random,,I sat and wrote... way to much..typos with iPad still.. ok I’ll be back..
Btw..two canisters of salt enable , dry air inlet, and dryer air outlet....otherwise one way will work better than the other. So get one working, then the second one.

No worries, glad to have you!

Ya humidity sucks in certain places. Here is horrible...dare I say unmanageable if not in a 100% sealed room.

We get fog off the lake so bad, warm water pockets. Id rather not say where as it's easy to deduce from certain things and while state is ok we have local cash grabs by theives and police both... but the Houston analogy is almost perfectly appropriate. Not quite as hot, nearly as humid amd locales compare to there much.

Sucks we can't spring for a dehumidifier plus c02 to truly deal with it... and its been spiking to 85 percent when lights out killing my carbon filter (Glad I got that monster sized one still not dead luckily...gets a tiny odor at lights out my internal home filters get the rest) with a heater keeping temps around 72 to 75. I worry higher temps will just suck moisture from the rest of the place.

Here is how I control mold and I have found this to be true so far with spikes into mid 70s RH in flower, not sure now but it should hold true this is how plants survive outside in places like this, Miami, San Diego winters are good comparison and of course Houston etc:

Its not truly safe above 70 percent here. Weak plants are succepible.
However, If my humidity has ever spiked above 70 percent, then it's essential not to let my leaf temp drop to 68 degrees or less ever or I will likely see a form of mold on weaker damaged leaves. (72 ambient with air movement seems to be safe). This is one reason we are happily moving inland.

The type of mold I won't comment for possible locale reasons, my luck its specific lol. Its not WPM which is good
...in a way.

Still nasty stuff if left unchecked. Budrot still a huge worry here.

Anyway thanks for the reply, I'm glad that you clarified for me, I get a bit in my head at times.

Lol I was double checking if Python or the nest... Eh SDK type webapp was open source lol.

Actually there is something relevant there though...we have the option now with Nest to have the home use our AC to dehumidify the whole home.
Great feature with warm days as we've been having, just need new AC first, our x-ton central unit is dying fast :( the plan is spring for that.

Take care hope your day goes awesome amd again glad to have you with us!
 
Re: Phenomenawesome's Auto Cannabonanza - GSC - LSD-25 - Northern Lights - Diesel In

I know it's not futile but difficult and more expensive than we can do with me between work.

We'll get through this one and if we stay here instead of moving closer to Detroit will likely need an industrial dehumidifier. Lights on steady 60 percent. Lights out 4 hours not sure when it hits 86 percent.

I know it sounds kind of crazy where I live I just value my privacy imagine a place that is exactly like Houston and you have where I live
 
Re: Phenomenawesome's Auto Cannabonanza - GSC - LSD-25 - Northern Lights - Diesel In

Describe unusual weather. Cooler than Houston Miami Tampa yet more humid..off some lake..
A mystery...

None the less, there's things you can do. Always.

Some random ideas to consider first, rest inline with your RH and grow.';;;;;;

Humidity 10-40 leave alone..all humidity is % rh , independent of temperature, air pressure , elevation, etc..
humidity 40-55 sweet spot for comfort.. enjoy it.
Humidity 55-70 , level one lowering methods...
Humidity 71-81, level two lowering methods....
Humidity >>82—99 is considered "condensing mist " used in special testing, special UL approval and the like.. equipment stuff.
100 it's raining.. go inside..lol

Method one.
Turn off, remove drain any visible standing evaporating, making things worse water.
Heat the room up, increasIng temperature, every 1-2 F, decreases RH about 1%..plants will love it till 92F many more to 104.. for awhile. Remember the environmental,humidity varies. When it's worst save delta temp for removing Rh..for awhile. So burn it off. N electric heater with exposed red got wires, visible will burn the crap out of the air. And a bbq gas tank, with redcueder pressure, make a fine torch. The heat lowers Rh, the flame will burn the crap of I'd h2O..lol. Open flame candles if you need 42 candles seems right..about 117 watts of heat. Yes 100 watt incandescent light bulb..s. Turn off led. Ok leave them on.. employ incandescent lights for heat when humid. The surface of the glas need exposed to,air, it burns the crap .....lol
Increase 'wind speed' in grow, in space just outside grow. Here we evacuate the grow, making inside grow pressure higher than room, just outside grow. Air goes from grow to room. Both room and from need, heat, ability to remove lol,water, ability to change wind speed. Have positive air flow from grow out. In method one we only heat grow. You can reduce 5-15 % rh this way.

Method two. .

Here we increase method one techniqueS.
Increasing the delta temperature , even more. Heating more is way better than humidity above 71%..
More fan speed indie and out, /increase temperature outside grow now, so two,heater, open up flame, expose more wire.etc.
Here we expect 71- 81 rh for few hours..?....

Ac to de humidify is easy but expensive since the cool /colder air actually increases Rh..too bad. Huh? While the 'dehumidifier part' is a secondary process where the water in air hit the cold ass heat exchNger, condensing the water right out of the air as it passes by. You can witness water formation by observing cold 'coils' with moist air... so more air is mixed. Please check the water removal pipe in your hvac. Open it up, clean heat exchanger, water and rubbing alcohol, brush, blow air...,often pipe clogs water backs up, and your rh actually increases. A lot. Plus that how legionnaires disease breeds. Bleach any water that looks like crap.
Ok, cool idea. Since it's the lake that causes the fog/and the humidity,let's us it, or surrogate to remove water ok?
Run cold water as you can get, like pump/gravity feed from lake, free energy right?, expose metal to cold water//and outside to humid air. Water formation ie lower humidity in the room with metal cold finger adapter... remove water instantly with tubing to second room, then remove from second room to//universe.. outside...away.
Ok evaporate out water using free cool finger not forced air alone ..ok? Tricky with cold air.. vs cold finger..

Best for last but trickier..
Firs don't kill charcoal filter with over use with humid air. When humid, no need to filter. Terpine/smell/ reduces as water vapor increase. Plus your filling all the billion filter hole wiTh water. Water that's hard to remove. You can slowly heat carbon filter but they make the cartridge thought to recycle ,,diy.. they want to rob you for each filter not have you re sue charcoal that can be re used about 1000 Times..lol like momma earth..
Instead of charcoal.. place a canister filled with a "salt" .. it removes water. Of course that destroys salt. Throw the 1 cent of salt away,ad 1 cent of salt, continue. Repeat as needed as effective. Right?
So what salt? Any . Kosher. Morton. Epsom.and you use it on girls.. all salt by definition is crystal formed when water was evaporated.. ok cool so well,put some water back.. phenom has way too much it rolls in each night during this season.. let's salt it out.

Ok you can relate the wet salt Nd re use. This describes a million dollar desiccant humidity removal system. Side by Singapore forces for humidity control. With almost no energy use, of course...oh there is automated. Phenom, your gonna be the brain of the desciant system.procure. Several of the humidity/temp sensors.. /calibrate them//against each other/ as the w-4 % error most have is more than we want. So get 4-9, pace near each other, and select the 'center' few for our serious use. Place other for ''entertainment value. Ie what's the temp humidity..lol with some errors...

Ok not random,,I sat and wrote... way to much..typos with iPad still.. ok I'll be back..
Btw..two canisters of salt enable , dry air inlet, and dryer air outlet....otherwise one way will work better than the other. So get one working, then the second one.
Thank you so much for taking the time to give me all of this information it's a lot to digest for sure but definitely a lot of good stuff and I appreciate it. :)

I see some ways to save some money here so definitely appreciate it

I'm going to be looking into recovering my filter if possible however this one doesn't come apart like some without me cutting it open likely...
 
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The girls :
Lyra color sucks with this camera.
I've been playing with the manual settings a bit but I still can't get that HPS orange gone. Hopefully I'll get better.

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Scarlet she's immobile under hps light
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Trish
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Marta
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Lina
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Emily
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Kitty
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The last 3 have huge pistils! Nice!
Thanks Pennywise. I'm very happy with the garden overall.

With my rootbound girl, she's perking up already too, if her roots are done growing at least maybe they will loosen up.

Good times :)
 
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The last 3 have huge pistils! Nice!
Oh yeah I was going to remark on that.

it seems like all of the girls in here have giant pistols at their intersections and even the buds are starting to swell up their calyxes really really big I don't know if that's a Autoflower thing or not could just be something I missed because my last crop was dusted with pollen before this stage...
 
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So glad that I was reviewing my journal.

I was on the fence about this one at first thinking maybe drying her out would help her roots go searching but at the same time too many stresses at once might be a problem.

So I fed her with the rest of the girls a bit after lights on and shes stayed perky! ...as perky as she gets lately I expect now to see that change and a good deal of growth.

Thanks Pennywise!
 
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Hi all, just a late flower 'analysis' on my take on autoflowers. I probably won't be growing them again unless I have some more space or get some outdoor privilege just because the turnaround time was clones on photos are equally fast in my opinion. And I want to breed.

But! To anyone considering autos. Don't knock them.

Fastbuds as an Autoflower company wins by a mile over GHS and RQS. Highly recommend. I did GSC, LSD25 and Green Crack. All suuuuper frosty from the start, resilient and great nodal spacing. All around superior to the hit or miss of the other 2.
**Grain of salt remember the oppinion of my second grow, regardless how many countless hours research nothing is like real experience.

My initial usumption about the LSD-25 being finicky was off!! She's "a real guzzler" to quote the breeder.
The burns were all me, she just drank the coco dry and burned. Now temps low I can feed once a day, but the LSD are still about to stress at 24hrs...early on in her flower stretch she needed water 3xday in these 3 gal bags...something to consider.

I highly recommend this plant though as she's a beautiful, fuelly, hashy resilient girl. I can't wait to cure her. Topped at third node she now looks to be the biggest yeilder also. So georgous purple...

That and those damn cookies. So far the best I've grown by visual appearance. The one pheno is so lime green I love it.

All are so coated in resin and trichomes but enough spacing to give some breathing room.

Bottom line they are out performing everything else by far. I'll have pics up later of course.

Starting flush on Lina, she's getting close. She's RQS and a great plant but short. Buds too close could've used some training. Her sister is a monster. If she doesn't hurry the holidays may see an early chop for her :(
 
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Autos are awesome if you only have 1 tent and want to do a perpetual grow. .
 
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Digging Lyra, nice and tall.
She's not propped up on anything about 5ft with medium.
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Looks like shes got some growing left. Pistils out like that?

Here is one of the GSC
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Hope everyone has a great week!
 
Re: Phenomenawesome's Auto Cannabonanza - GSC - LSD-25 - Northern Lights - Diesel In

Still pushing out white pistils so she still has some swelling to do
 
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There's always stuff that you can do

Thank you so much!!

Let me explain. I've been working this out now since you posted your tips and tried a few different things what ended up working is simple.

To give an idea how well, in rain outdoors with lights out my high was 64%!! Can't wait to see when its normal out.
Lights on have always been riding 58%
That may seem high to ppl but I'll take it!! It was 86 at hieght lights out every day.
Charcoal filter still works but ordered another. It was only 60 bucks and riveted together. I will recycle.

This will lesson my chances of ruining my Dark Plasmas with mold orders of magnitude less.

I set up a mesh cover almost like a screen door in front of the bedroom door open it up during their lights out with the hall light out to make sure it stays dark I have a fan circulating air out of that room to make sure the humidity stays down and it works easy breezy I feel like a dummy but I think you from the bottom of my heart for getting me on this issue and dialing in my space cuz now I have a perfect winter run setup... Until I get an LED... Lol.

Here were the problems when initially setting up my space.
The tent as some of you know is in a 10 by 12 room that is mostly sealed save for 15 minutes of filtered air intake every hour.

During the summer time it was all I could do to seal it up as tight as possible and have the window Shaker on full blast to cool a 600 watt light to 80 degrees. My home AC outdoor unit is shot. Replacing in spring....

The other large problem is pets we breed Wolfhounds we have one female and one male now we have a pitbull a Rhodesian Ridgeback and 6 cats along with the squirrel so pests are a big problem I actually do a Mister Rogers clothes change before I enter the grow.

I didn't want to open the room up to the rest of the house like that but if I keep things as clean as possible and use preventive maintenance on the plants before flower on the photos I think we got a winner.

Thanks again from the bottom of my heart :) my girls thank you as well.
 
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Yep it's snowing out now. Still environment on point... Perfect.
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Feels good to get the environment under control! .
It does, I am so happy
 
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I spent a lot of time trying to keep my tent at 75. My plants seem to really do well with low 80's. I know everybody's got different environments to deal with. We've had super low humidity since the temps dropped. Hopefully we'll see some real weather her and soon.

I know what you're saying bout the temps though it's nice when the plants tell you, "That right there is perfect!"
 
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