man i missed you asking about the vaporizers Peyton....sorry about that....if i remember correctly the battery gets pretty warm too......anyway.....if you dont mind using butane then the WISPR Iolite Vaporizer is the shit......heavy hits off it and it is square and stands up....the original was oval and wasnt as user friendly but still a great vape.....i found the wispr on fleebay for 89.....that is an awesome price.....last one i got i paid 150 so they have come down a lot...but in the local shops they sell for over 200......if you dont want butane as i need to mention that the unit does make a hissing sound.....not terribly loud but there is sound......for stealth the only one that i seen so far was the airizer solo...which Skunny has.....i have one but it has died after a couple of years of heavy uselol.....but that one is easy to clean and hits really good as Mr Skunny can agree i am surelol.....but the cheapest i found it is 129.....it is rechargeable and makes no noise......i will look some more later....i really should make a list of all the ones i have tried and pros and cons of each....maybe a future blog