Patient's Grows

[Pat Puffer]

I will heed the Prof.'s rec's. I will start easing them down in temps.

I am getting away from THC. It's totally weird. I just feel better on the CBD herb. I find myself smoking CBD through the day to...just have a better day. It is more pleasant for me and not so much of an "event".

Thank you for the information. It is humbling to have the effort made to pass along info. I have to at least try it.

 

[NuttyProfessor]

no worries mate , and think about it people can spend a lot on therapy, cold water is free , another benefit

give it a go for a whole month , start march 1st . nothing to lose a lot to gain

 

[Pat Puffer]

Update on the AC/DC. She has had a flush to hopefully precipatate out the excess.

I have also started kelp foliars to bypass the roots and get the micros back to her.

She is getting color back to her tops.
I kept the older leaves on the watch for progression of K lock out. It hasn't come to a complete halt but it has tremendously slowed down if not stopped. The foliar feed is on the weak side. I am afraid of over doing foliars and stripping the waxy cuticle around our leaves. So the recommemded dose of 2 Tbsp a gallon was cut down to less than a 1/4 tsp per liter. The math is there and i errored on the conservative side.

I flushed with tap water so my microbes have been compromised. I don't know if they have been killed all together, or if the chloramine just compromises the environment. I have done some reading and i don't think the water sterilizes the soil 100%.

Once I see more positive responses from the plant, I will reintroduce plain compost teas and not nutrient teas. (check) ...and on a more conservative basis. The tea is still brewing, I am just using it on the plants around the yard.

 

[NuttyProfessor]

Good job mate them foliage feed work wonders , can turn a plant around in days , you will also get more branching as kelp promotes cell division, same as the roots , you do not need fungi when you use it , you can double the roots using kelp drenches every other week, without the plant wasting sugars on fungi

 

[Pat Puffer]

Through my readings (microbeman) I think he said for higher fungal tea, to pull the brew within the first 12-18 hrs (?). I would have to reread the section, but I believe he said the populations of fungi didn't increase much more after those readings and only bacteria populations continued to explode to the 36-48 hour mark.

Is there a set amount of time you brew to try and keep the fungal population up? Or do you brew leaf moulds and organic matter of that nature, to enhance the population?

 

[NuttyProfessor]

i use the potato compost tea , just add a really really good compost , the chicken manure i have has mould so i put that in too , my tea its more 7.0/7.5 on my ph i dont think much about fungi as i never get deficiency and people spend to buy fungi to feed their plants but i use kelp to cell divide so the roots spread to feed the plant not the fungi for the 25/30 percent sugar trade , i think fungi its better for field plants not potted 5 gallon like i do
i use my ferments to bring ph to 6.4

to enhance the population after all that

 

[NuttyProfessor]

Mycorrhizas i had to look it up sorry could not spell or think of the names there , had some fat petes cookies , very nice , let them go over for more amber , its relaxing mate , very nice balance

 

[Pat Puffer]

I hate to keep bugging you, @NuttyProfessor

So am I correct in assuming that you ferment your junk. Its broken down and totally hot at that point. For instance, your potato ferment? This was mainly a ferment you did?

Then the fluid is collected and stored as fertilizer. The fluid/fertilizer is added to your compost teas and that "tea" is added to your plants?

In general, are the ferments acidic (low pH) and the teas are more of a base/alkaline (high pH)? Using both to balance each other out is brilliant!

I am seeing that pH pen in my future. What brand are you using?

 

[NuttyProfessor]

yes i ferment my fish, bananas, dog food lol , what ever , let them sit for months until they are black liquid , the molasses gets used up , this is plant available as the microbes have ate everything , died off been ate by bigger microbes then they die and they all crap and you have a lovely bottle of nutrients you add to your neutral teas , they are acidic as the molasses makes acidic teas , so this is why i brew 6.8 and above using the potato as food not molasses

i use about 3 pens all cheap . calibrate weekly though , had expensive ones and seen no difference , ok they last a bit longer but over the time they work out the same

 

[Pat Puffer]

These little pseudo/quazi tutorials i have done, aside from the passive wick clone method and coco oil, are all my 1st attempts. I considered waiting until I knew what I was doing to document the stuff, but that wouldn't show any mishap or hurdle a 1st timer may face. I also felt that the more comfortable I am with a method, the more careless I would be about the write up, so...we will see.

The next little write up I am going to be doing is how to make gummies. I am currently combing through recipes and methods and I will be sure to get a ton of pics when doing so for the journal.

Funds are strapped here at the end of the month, so the process will start after the 1st.

There is a bit of research needed to see exactly what MagicalButter is wanting in their recipe. They call for citric acid (need to get), flavored and non flavored gelatin, and a reduced tincture. Oh, and 1/2 tsp of "flavor extract"? What is that? I will clarify all that and my choices on flavors.

I have a little electric burner we use to make coffee and warm bottles in hotels and that will be what I use to reduce the tincture to a FECO (full extract cannabis oil). This next venture ought to be fun.

The need for gummies is for more than just me. My mother battles with sciatica pain and takes more advil than she probably should. She gets down with some THC bud at night, but she doesn't get the CBD high. She thinks it doesn't work. hahaha...i need to get these gummies going for sure.

We also have an 11 yr old boston terrier who is starting to spend more time laying down than being up. She also displays a loss of mobility due to arthritic joints. I used to dose her with my oil and she was showing positive results. She got used to the smell and turns her nose up at it now. I still get sneaky on New Years and July 4th to keep her settled.

 

[Plant Dad]

I will heed the Prof.'s rec's. I will start easing them down in temps.

I am getting away from THC. It's totally weird. I just feel better on the CBD herb. I find myself smoking CBD through the day to...just have a better day. It is more pleasant for me and not so much of an "event".

Thank you for the information. It is humbling to have the effort made to pass along info. I have to at least try it.

I want to grow some CBD heavy strain. I hear it's great for anxiety. Probably good for the golf game I'm thinking.

 

[Plant Dad]

Update on the AC/DC. She has had a flush to hopefully precipatate out the excess.

I have also started kelp foliars to bypass the roots and get the micros back to her.

She is getting color back to her tops.
I kept the older leaves on the watch for progression of K lock out. It hasn't come to a complete halt but it has tremendously slowed down if not stopped. The foliar feed is on the weak side. I am afraid of over doing foliars and stripping the waxy cuticle around our leaves. So the recommemded dose of 2 Tbsp a gallon was cut down to less than a 1/4 tsp per liter. The math is there and i errored on the conservative side.

I flushed with tap water so my microbes have been compromised. I don't know if they have been killed all together, or if the chloramine just compromises the environment. I have done some reading and i don't think the water sterilizes the soil 100%.

Once I see more positive responses from the plant, I will reintroduce plain compost teas and not nutrient teas. (check) ...and on a more conservative basis. The tea is still brewing, I am just using it on the plants around the yard.

It's my understanding that Chlorine in the water doesn't get past the first couple inches of soil.

 

[Plant Dad]

Update on the AC/DC. She has had a flush to hopefully precipatate out the excess.

I have also started kelp foliars to bypass the roots and get the micros back to her.

She is getting color back to her tops.
I kept the older leaves on the watch for progression of K lock out. It hasn't come to a complete halt but it has tremendously slowed down if not stopped. The foliar feed is on the weak side. I am afraid of over doing foliars and stripping the waxy cuticle around our leaves. So the recommemded dose of 2 Tbsp a gallon was cut down to less than a 1/4 tsp per liter. The math is there and i errored on the conservative side.

I flushed with tap water so my microbes have been compromised. I don't know if they have been killed all together, or if the chloramine just compromises the environment. I have done some reading and i don't think the water sterilizes the soil 100%.

Once I see more positive responses from the plant, I will reintroduce plain compost teas and not nutrient teas. (check) ...and on a more conservative basis. The tea is still brewing, I am just using it on the plants around the yard.

You got her on the right path... Man she is looking Fukkable again.

 

[Plant Dad]

I hate to keep bugging you, @NuttyProfessor

So am I correct in assuming that you ferment your junk. Its broken down and totally hot at that point. For instance, your potato ferment? This was mainly a ferment you did?

Then the fluid is collected and stored as fertilizer. The fluid/fertilizer is added to your compost teas and that "tea" is added to your plants?

In general, are the ferments acidic (low pH) and the teas are more of a base/alkaline (high pH)? Using both to balance each other out is brilliant!

I am seeing that pH pen in my future. What brand are you using?

NP is growing in Coco I think? If he is that's why PH is so important. In Soil, PH isn't supposed to make a difference. The soil will buffer it.

 

[Plant Dad]

These little pseudo/quazi tutorials i have done, aside from the passive wick clone method and coco oil, are all my 1st attempts. I considered waiting until I knew what I was doing to document the stuff, but that wouldn't show any mishap or hurdle a 1st timer may face. I also felt that the more comfortable I am with a method, the more careless I would be about the write up, so...we will see.

The next little write up I am going to be doing is how to make gummies. I am currently combing through recipes and methods and I will be sure to get a ton of pics when doing so for the journal.

Funds are strapped here at the end of the month, so the process will start after the 1st.

There is a bit of research needed to see exactly what MagicalButter is wanting in their recipe. They call for citric acid (need to get), flavored and non flavored gelatin, and a reduced tincture. Oh, and 1/2 tsp of "flavor extract"? What is that? I will clarify all that and my choices on flavors.

I have a little electric burner we use to make coffee and warm bottles in hotels and that will be what I use to reduce the tincture to a FECO (full extract cannabis oil). This next venture ought to be fun.

The need for gummies is for more than just me. My mother battles with sciatica pain and takes more advil than she probably should. She gets down with some THC bud at night, but she doesn't get the CBD high. She thinks it doesn't work. hahaha...i need to get these gummies going for sure.

We also have an 11 yr old boston terrier who is starting to spend more time laying down than being up. She also displays a loss of mobility due to arthritic joints. I used to dose her with my oil and she was showing positive results. She got used to the smell and turns her nose up at it now. I still get sneaky on New Years and July 4th to keep her settled.

I can't wait for a tutorial on making gummies. I want to make some.

 

[Stunger]

I never think about pH with soil, I feel as worms are living in it then it must be fine for the plants.

 

[Pat Puffer]

@Plant Daddy

The whole process is totally achievable without the butter machine. The purpose of that is to make a tincture. A simple ethanol/ever clear wash gives a tincture for this purpose, I believe. The rest is completed on the counter top.

MB has great tips in their write up on their home page and I will be sure to include all their info in the thread.

CBD improving the golf game? Great concept. I do know that it improves blood flow in the hippocampus and frontal cortex (?), which in turn has shown to improve memory. It exemplifies the neural protective properties of the cannabinoid.

It aids in spasticity management. I have seen videos of animals with cannabis toxicity (THC) and their movements are more sporadic and jittery. I wonder if on a smaller scale, we experience the same?

Perhaps the CBD would give more of a zen and "in the moment" experience, allowing the club to do the work, aye? I like it and I expect a full report.

"Cannabis on the links"...I love it.

 

[Dabeast09]

I enjoyed your conversation very much friends, @Patient Puffer @NuttyProfessor. Now I want to grow cbd strains too. Didn't know it helps with anxiety..
And gummies. I want to make canna gummies

 

[Pat Puffer]

CBD is a blessing to the high strung.

It has taken me a couple years of smoking both to compare the two and seeing how much more CBD benefits me and my personal afflictions.

When I started smoking CBD i was immediately disenchanted due to the lack of physical sensations. There was no roller coaster ride of thoughts and the giggles were never there.

This up and down stuff is what was taxing me, I think. The CBD just gives me a sense of well being, which is more appreciated than extreme ups.

I am inspired to do a write up on how CBD gets us high for members to read.

In a nut shell...

We have an endocannbinoid called anandamide (?). This compound is broken down by a fatty acid that regulates our anandamide levels. The CBD binds to the fatty acid, which allows our naturally occurring endocannibinoid to "exist" for longer amount of time.

I have done some lengthy reading on how CBD benefits schizophrenic patients. ...anandamide. (sister in law suffers from it)

 

[copperrein]

I would read it. Please write if you have time.

Thanks to lockdown a handful of good unis have free lectures posted. I've been making my way through Stanford's intro to neurosciences series. Amazing but more of a basic 'how brain goes brrrrr' which I feel I need before frolicking my already scattered mind into hard neurochemical shit.

You write in a manner that bridges painful lingo and concepts with layman-level explanations.