Parfactworks HB 1500, Weed Seeds Express & Prescription Blend 3x Sponsored Grow - The Safari Pt I: A Vegetative Journey

[Krissi Carbone]

Looks like a lot of light…will stayed tuned in Krissi…cheers

Hey there cr8!!! Welcome, long time. I'm running them at 40 and 50% right now for the 150W and 97W, respectively sitting at 24 inches. Thoughts?

I use these: Opening diameter 4”, height 3.3”, bottom diameter 2.7”. They are ideal for succulents, seed starting, cuttings and transplanting. Cheap and efficient.

@Krissi1982

Did you see the pots I used this time?

6.4

She got it buddy!

Mr Haney…Arnold…Jeb…nothing like climbing the telephone pole to make a call..

Love it!! Mr.Ed was the shit too

Embrace the art and then paint over it later…if you can

I do. It's washable crayons...nothing some Magic Eraser won't fix. I love how creative he is already

Krissi…looking good…maybe a little N…light worm casings perhaps?

Already on it! Dropped a topping on the bigger girls before I came out for this bowl!

They look loads better already. Nicely done.

Thanks buddy..just needed a little extra. CORE a and CORE B do not supply vegetative needs for our 420....moving onto the Veg week 1/2 dosage adds in Bio Si, Kelpful and Precursor which are the building blocks for these girls' overall development.. once Bubs started veg nutes from @Prescription Blend , her cannabis life changed remarkable! I'm seeing the same with this implementation of Veg nutes.

I'm trying to be better at watching others' journals mindfully just as the other more experienced growers that have helped us all along the way.

So am I! I'm always looking for new information from our friends here!

I need to remember that my reading, comprehension, and memory don't always line up too well.

Hahahaha you think you're the only one? Doesn't help that in a day, you're 7 pages backed on my threads

You've got this! I need to read more and less typing. Haaa haaa.

All good, I appreciate the look outs! You see what you see you know? It's always helpful yo have others chiming in! I don't take offense to it at all, I appreciate it!

 

[ppm Charlie]

Hey there cr8!!! Welcome, long time. I'm running them at 40 and 50% right now for the 150W and 97W, respectively sitting at 24 inches. Thoughts?

Did you see the pots I used this time?

I do. It's washable crayons...nothing some Magic Eraser won't fix. I love how creative he is already


Already on it! Dropped a topping on the bigger girls before I came out for this bowl!

Thanks buddy..just needed a little extra. CORE a and CORE B do not supply vegetative needs for our 420....moving onto the Veg week 1/2 dosage adds in Bio Si, Kelpful and Precursor which are the building blocks for these girls' overall development.. once Bubs started veg nutes from @Prescription Blend , her cannabis life changed remarkable! I'm seeing the same with this implementation of Veg nutes.


So am I! I'm always looking for new information from our friends here!


Hahahaha you think you're the only one? Doesn't help that in a day, you're 7 pages backed on my threads

All good, I appreciate the look outs! You see what you see you know? It's always helpful yo have others chiming in! I don't take offense to it at all, I appreciate it!

Looks good - pot-wise. What's your RH like for the seedlings? 50% RH and above is good. I like 60%-70 days, nights 50% RH. Some people go 70%-80% RH for young seedlings.

 

[Krissi Carbone]

Looks good - pot-wise. What's your RH like for the seedlings? 50% RH and above is good. I like 60%-70 days, nights 50% RH. Some people go 70%-80% RH for young seedlings.

Seedlings, I shoot for 65/70. Point they are at now 60. I try not to go above 70 because it gets too humid and mold is something I don't ever want to deal with. Because of the flower tent in the same room and the fact that I keep my photo, G, out at night in the dark in that room, I have to be very vigilant monitoring the humidity and temp in both tents and the room. Which can be challenging. Now with less plants in the flower tent with G out at night, humidity drops. I had to add a humidifier at night. Veg tent though...had to turn the fan off to increase humidity to the point I need it because I need the temp to be a little higher in there, too which drops my humidity. I have kept the tent open in the past but can't do it at this juncture because of the light hitting G. So I had to improvise. It's radiant heat in the grow room also, so that is a dry heat nightmare sometimes as well. The room stays between 57 and 60% humidity which I need for G at night. The flower tent holds at around 55 during the day but at night without the humidifier, I've seen it down to like 38...just have to stay on it and work with what I have. Everything has to happen in that room. I used to even dry in there! No way I can do that now, that's why I am using my .5 bath-for temp and RH reasons.

 

[ppm Charlie]

Seedlings, I shoot for 65/70. Point they are at now 60. I try not to go above 70 because it gets too humid and mold is something I don't ever want to deal with. Because of the flower tent in the same room and the fact that I keep my photo, G, out at night in the dark in that room, I have to be very vigilant monitoring the humidity and temp in both tents and the room. Which can be challenging. Now with less plants in the flower tent with G out at night, humidity drops. I had to add a humidifier at night. Veg tent though...had to turn the fan off to increase humidity to the point I need it because I need the temp to be a little higher in there, too which drops my humidity. I have kept the tent open in the past but can't do it at this juncture because of the light hitting G. So I had to improvise. It's radiant heat in the grow room also, so that is a dry heat nightmare sometimes as well. The room stays between 57 and 60% humidity which I need for G at night. The flower tent holds at around 55 during the day but at night without the humidifier, I've seen it down to like 38...just have to stay on it and work with what I have. Everything has to happen in that room. I used to even dry in there! No way I can do that now, that's why I am using my .5 bath-for temp and RH reasons.

I think you are on the right track. You have 24/7 oscillating air movement inside the tent right? I'm like you, I don't like humidity above 70% RH. MOLD - the "evil one".

You should be able to use inline 4-inch fan in those smaller tents, I do. A 6-inch fan is too much. Do you have a fan controller? I just control fan speed to optimize temperature and humidity. You only need to turnover the air in a tent approximately once every 3 minutes (a minimum turnover rate). You can get a fan controller (kind of expensive) but I use a 10-amp Variac controller (#1 pic below - $56.00 - good for controlling motor speeds in a lot of devices - *bay, free shipping). It has a big dial, three-prong plug in, you plug the fan into it and dial it up percentage-wise fan speed.

You figure a 4-inch fan full steam is doing 140-150 cu-ft/min (without filter attached). So 50% gives you about 75 cu-ft/min. A 2 X 4 X 5 is 40 cu-ft. You turn over twice a minute that way, more then enough air turnover. Just have to watch the fan does not "stall" which happens with my fans around 30-35% input (that is why a 6-inch fan is too big, can't run it slow enough).

I control the humidifier by it's own built-in humidity control or by plugging a "manual" on/off humidifier into a Inkbird humidity controller. You can set it to come on/off in as little as 1% or 2% RH deviation from your set point.

I bought a cheap anemometer (under $60.00 at ***zon, free shipping with P*ime) in the beginning to measure the airflow out the tent exhaust duct (see pic #2 below). You hold the meter up in front of the outflow air exhaust duct-end, set the device to measure max/min (highest and lowest velocity) and take a reading. You get an air velocity of feet per minute value which you multiply times the duct area in square feet (in feet, not inches - which for 4-inch or 6-inch duct work is a small fraction of a square foot - 1/3 foot diameter = 4-inch diameter = 0.0873 sq-ft [apprx] in circle area-size). Multiplying one by the other gives you cu-ft/min.

Example: air velocity in ft/min X area of pipe in sq-ft = cu-ft/min (CFM)

The meter has a function to calculate the CFM directly. I find it easier just multiplying the velocity of the air times the area of the pipe. The area of a circle is easy - pi-r-squared. Or here:

Area of a Circle Calculator – Circle Area Calculator

Circle area calculator and circumference calculator provide you with a simple way of determining the square footage area for various shapes. Its mathematically accurate and useful for Construction projects, wood workers, home owners, students, and real estate.

www.squarefootagearea.com

In any case, I never have problems balancing airflow vs humidity. It does change though with the number and stage of growth of plants in the tent. I just adjust fan exhaust speed once in a while. Pretty soon you get a feel for what percentage on the incremented dial equals what airflow CFM (approx). Not important to be exact, as long as you have more than one tent-air turnover per three minutes.

Be great for "stocking stuffers" - LOL!

Pic#1 - 10 Amp Variac

Pic#2 - Cheap Anemometer

@Krissi1982

 

[Prescription Blend]

I use seedling starter Charlie then mix the starter with FFOF then straight FFOF and addendums. Passed the seedling stage now, think that was half the coloring issue- no veg nutes...just the basics...getting too big for that! I'm contemplating the inoculant you mentioned to me a few times now!! I do go against most people's thoughts on watering in soil though, I'm with some of the others-water every day...no dry periods unless i am droughting on purpose. My girls never run that wet dry cycle that some people swear by. Hasn't affected me negatively yet...I'm always listening to any advice, however...I want you to know that.

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NOTE:
Got back from dinner and checked on these ladies...looking better in the coloring area. Def going to move them to their water reserve pots this week. Keep monitoring their color and see what we see! Happy with them thus far, regardless

They look like they are taking up the nutrient and changing colors really nicely. In the previous post when you increased to Week 1 veg feed.... most of your plants had 3 or 4 sets of true leaves, I would recommend starting the liquid nutrients a little sooner with your next batch to avoid this happening.

Give it a few days and they will look like nothing ever happened. Happy growing.

 

[ppm Charlie]

They look like they are taking up the nutrient and changing colors really nicely. In the previous post when you increased to Week 1 veg feed.... most of your plants had 3 or 4 sets of true leaves, I would recommend starting the liquid nutrients a little sooner with your next batch to avoid this happening.

Give it a few days and they will look like nothing ever happened. Happy growing.

Words of the wise.

 

[Krissi Carbone]

I think you are on the right track. You have 24/7 oscillating air movement inside the tent right? I'm like you, I don't like humidity above 70% RH. MOLD - the "evil one".

You should be able to use inline 4-inch fan in those smaller tents, I do. A 6-inch fan is too much. Do you have a fan controller? I just control fan speed to optimize temperature and humidity. You only need to turnover the air in a tent approximately once every 3 minutes (a minimum turnover rate). You can get a fan controller (kind of expensive) but I use a 10-amp Variac controller (#1 pic below - $56.00 - good for controlling motor speeds in a lot of devices - *bay, free shipping). It has a big dial, three-prong plug in, you plug the fan into it and dial it up percentage-wise fan speed.

You figure a 4-inch fan full steam is doing 140-150 cu-ft/min (without filter attached). So 50% gives you about 75 cu-ft/min. A 2 X 4 X 5 is 40 cu-ft. You turn over twice a minute that way, more then enough air turnover. Just have to watch the fan does not "stall" which happens with my fans around 30-35% input (that is why a 6-inch fan is too big, can't run it slow enough).

I control the humidifier by it's own built-in humidity control or by plugging a "manual" on/off humidifier into a Inkbird humidity controller. You can set it to come on/off in as little as 1% or 2% RH deviation from your set point.

I bought a cheap anemometer (under $60.00 at ***zon, free shipping with P*ime) in the beginning to measure the airflow out the tent exhaust duct (see pic #2 below). You hold the meter up in front of the outflow air exhaust duct-end, set the device to measure max/min (highest and lowest velocity) and take a reading. You get an air velocity of feet per minute value which you multiply times the duct area in square feet (in feet, not inches - which for 4-inch or 6-inch duct work is a small fraction of a square foot - 1/3 foot diameter = 4-inch diameter = 0.0873 sq-ft [apprx] in circle area-size). Multiplying one by the other gives you cu-ft/min.

Example: air velocity in ft/min X area of pipe in sq-ft = cu-ft/min (CFM)

The time you spent on this response....I am grateful for you. Thank you for that because I wasn't about to do the work

The meter has a function to calculate the CFM directly. I find it easier just multiplying the velocity of the air times the area of the pipe. The area of a circle is easy - pi-r-squared. Or here:

Area of a Circle Calculator – Circle Area Calculator

Circle area calculator and circumference calculator provide you with a simple way of determining the square footage area for various shapes. Its mathematically accurate and useful for Construction projects, wood workers, home owners, students, and real estate.

www.squarefootagearea.com

In any case, I never have problems balancing airflow vs humidity. It does change though with the number and stage of growth of plants in the tent. I just adjust fan exhaust speed once in a while. Pretty soon you get a feel for what percentage on the incremented dial equals what airflow CFM (approx). Not important to be exact, as long as you have more than one tent-air turnover per three minutes.

Be great for "stocking stuffers" - LOL!

Pic#1 - 10 Amp Variac

Pic#2 - Cheap Anemometer

@Krissi1982

Charlie, did you read the beginning of this journal? Of course I have a fan in there. I just told you I had to turn it off lol yes, it has a controller for speed. I tried it at all speeds and yes it's a 4 in I save the 6 for my flower tent..you would know that if you read the beginning!!! Just kidding with ya Charlie, it was 632 pages ago....I'm also laughing because of the stocking staffers lol..my Christmas list is all things cannabis already

They look like they are taking up the nutrient and changing colors really nicely. In the previous post when you increased to Week 1 veg feed.... most of your plants had 3 or 4 sets of true leaves, I would recommend starting the liquid nutrients a little sooner with your next batch to avoid this happening.

Give it a few days and they will look like nothing ever happened. Happy growing.

Much appreciated!! Input received. I think they are doing very well, going to coast now! Next round I'll start em up sooner! Thanks for chiming in!! Have to put my stickers up tomorrow!

 

[Krissi Carbone]

My big girls:

Working in that @Prescription Blend and loving it! My healthy ladies

My unhealthy lady:

Sad times for Limelight with still no signs of change. As the other girls are going to need the space and the lighting to be bumped soon, time is passing quickly for her to do something before, well, we all know....

My teeniest gem:

Goldie, taking her sweet time as I assume Goldie Hawn would. Also having some coloring issues again. Not much I can give her at this point...Only other issue I have with her, is that I need to take care of the bigger girls which can affect how I take care of her in the same tent. May have to shift her off to the side with the 97W and move the others around to get the full spectrum of the HB1500.

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

Poor Limelight - but at least she has that first set of leaves! Lemi ain’t even got that!

 

[Krissi Carbone]

Poor Limelight - but at least she has that first set of leaves! Lemi ain’t even got that!

I just would have assumed she croaked by now but nope...just hanging out idle with her one set...sometimes I think I see a second but idk if I'm just being overly positive in a sour situation.....Lemi doesn't look like a train wreck though and is also almost 2 weeks younger than Limelight!! Lemi looks better and her roots are a good sign...here's that patience again...

 

[cjsbabygirl313]

I just would have assumed she croaked by now but nope...just hanging out idle with her one set...sometimes I think I see a second but idk if I'm just being overly positive in a sour situation.....Lemi doesn't look like a train wreck though and is also almost 2 weeks younger than Limelight!! Lemi looks better and her roots are a good sign...here's that patience again...

Yeah, I’m seeing more roots for Lemi which I find encouraging!

 

[Nev]

As I’ve been watching Onyx and I believe she is getting her green on.

Will you be topping any of these girls in the near future?

 

[Krissi Carbone]

As I’ve been watching Onyx and I believe she is getting her green on.

Will you be topping any of these girls in the near future?

I planned on topping all my photos, so yes Onyx is on that list but other than Gigi in my other journal, she's the only photo that's a candidate anytime soon.....I usually do not top my autos. How about you?

 

[ppm Charlie]

The time you spent on this response....I am grateful for you. Thank you for that because I wasn't about to do the work

Charlie, did you read the beginning of this journal? Of course I have a fan in there. I just told you I had to turn it off lol yes, it has a controller for speed. I tried it at all speeds and yes it's a 4 in I save the 6 for my flower tent..you would know that if you read the beginning!!! Just kidding with ya Charlie, it was 632 pages ago....I'm also laughing because of the stocking staffers lol..my Christmas list is all things cannabis already

Much appreciated!! Input received. I think they are doing very well, going to coast now! Next round I'll start em up sooner! Thanks for chiming in!! Have to put my stickers up tomorrow!

I am a bit verbose in my explanations. Seems you have things well under control. Maybe the my post will help someone else out. Just like to help out if I can.

 

[Nev]

I usually do not top my autos.

My DDa was topped and it took to it just fine. I did not top the C.Skunk auto but when I grow it again it will definitely also be topped.
I’m seeing a lot of topped autos anymore so I’m also going to be doing it a lot more on them.

 

[Krissi Carbone]

I am a bit verbose in my explanations. Seems you have things well under control. Maybe the my post will help someone else out. Just like to help out if I can.

C, I appreciate wholeheartedly the fact that you are!!! Most people wouldn't bother to explain things in the manner you do to make sure we understand. It helps everyone out! Please continue to do so!!

My DDa was topped and it took to it just fine. I did not top the C.Skunk auto but when I grow it again it will definitely also be topped.
I’m seeing a lot of topped autos anymore so I’m also going to be doing it a lot more on them.

Well...maybe I'll follow suit then...going to be time soon. Are you thinking of ever doing a multiple topping or do you think our time-line is too short for recovery from another?

 

[Nev]

Are you thinking of ever doing a multiple topping or do you think our time-line is top short for recovery from another?

The DDa was way to fast to do more then 1 clip and the C Skunk could have had multiple as she is not nearly as fast as the DDa.
I may go a quad in the future but I’m actually pretty happy right now with the aggressive LST and a single topping.

 

[Krissi Carbone]

The DDa was way to fast to do more then 1 clip and the C Skunk could have had multiple as she is not nearly as fast as the DDa

Right on

I may go a quad in the future but I’m actually pretty happy right now with the aggressive LST and a single topping.

I think we have similar growing styles in a couple ways...one of which is your ability to nurture the ugly and the other is your fondess to trying out new things but knowing what works for you and finding that balance. I have not been doing LST on them but instead, supercropping a little after the branches start developing thick enough to handle it and then again in flower. I like the end result of the buds for sure..I may have to secure them with some duct and electrical tape in a few spots to help with the added weight but hell, I like that added weight and trichomes

 

[SmokeyB]

Just so don't fall pages behind lol

 

[Krissi Carbone]

Just so don't fall pages behind lol

Funny cause I was gonna tag you on Mondays and Thursdays that way you could never get too far behind