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Outdoor Organic Balcony Stealth Quadlining: White Widow/Gorgonzola
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It is encouraging to read that those polls in the States came in lower than the actual voting.
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Chris Fowlie of NORML NZ had this article out today on his thoughts of the NZ cannabis referendum and the path ahead.
Emeraldo
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Interesting article with comments on the path forward. As with many referenda, I assume the text of this referendum is not a self-executing law and will need implementation by the legislature. Too often here in California, referenda are not well-drafted laws and need tweaking post election.
Nice one, Koro 
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This article is from 420's main page it's been out for a few months, but I am just posting the link to it because it discusses the question of the role of THC% in the high, which I have been confused about, as it is often portrayed as the key component, and one that the naysayers for cannabis legalization claim is so much higher today, a claim I struggle with because I have had wild grown bud in the 80's that was as strong as any I have had in current times.
Science Reveals The Cannabis Industry’s Greatest Lie: You’re Buying Weed Wrong (And So Is Everyone Else)
There’s much more to cannabis than THC—for solid proof, look no further than the CBD boom—but when it comes to moving product on the legal recreational
www.420magazine.com
Interesting article, thanks Stunger! I remember another member here who was sure that terpenes played a much bigger role in the high than THC content, and this proves the point.
SoGnotSOG321
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I like me some oil on my paper Js and I get more effects than doing either by themselves. I'm surprised by how well ointments/topicals work with CCO at reliving chronic pain. Do the CBD dominate strains have a better effect do you think?
I view THC as a catalyst to terpenes (or other way around). Couldn't even guess at what kind of ratios or other factors would play (from the person smokings endocanaboid system to even flavonoids), I'll leave that to persons smarter then me on the subject. I've bought a lot from licensed producers in Canada and each jar has its THC and CBD levels. I've had strains that have hit much harder with lower THC then others with high THC.
THC definitely is a factor, but it's not the end all factor that it's made to be.
And I'm quite sure I'm not the member who said that before, just adding my 2 cents
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Well the preliminary voting counts are in for the recreational cannabis referendum in NZ.
2.4 million votes were cast in the referendum to legalize cannabis.
53.1% No
46.1% Yes
The final count will be known in 7 days time when the special votes are counted. It is impressively close but still a fail at the moment. I am not sure whether a suggested total 480,000 special votes will contain a higher enough percentage to get us over the line. The total votes counted are said to be 2.4 million, obviously a rounded figure. But still going on these numbers the No votes are close to 170k ahead which makes the percentage of special votes required for a Yes vote needs to be around 68% Yes which could be a bridge too far.
At least this shows a very strong level of support at the preliminary level with almost half the country's voting public in support of legalization.
2.4 million votes were cast in the referendum to legalize cannabis.
53.1% No
46.1% Yes
The final count will be known in 7 days time when the special votes are counted. It is impressively close but still a fail at the moment. I am not sure whether a suggested total 480,000 special votes will contain a higher enough percentage to get us over the line. The total votes counted are said to be 2.4 million, obviously a rounded figure. But still going on these numbers the No votes are close to 170k ahead which makes the percentage of special votes required for a Yes vote needs to be around 68% Yes which could be a bridge too far.
At least this shows a very strong level of support at the preliminary level with almost half the country's voting public in support of legalization.
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Yes indeed, but it is still a little bit early for me to be playing Monty Python's Life of Brian 'always look on the bright side of life' in my head!
Emeraldo
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46.1% yes is not too shabby! Maybe the legislature will just pass a law.
syenite
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Yes, even if the referendum ultimately fails, there is plenty of scope for the government to still push reforms.
So a close final result still counts for a lot!
It counts as progress! 15 years ago you would never have seen that vote happen!
Just wish for you guys that the progress moves a bit faster
Hopefully it'll open the door for a more solid medical cannabis law (though in truth I'm ignorant of your laws around the medical side).
The door wasn't slammed shut with a resounding "no", So there's still hope
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I haven’t posted for while as currently without a computer, so limited to single finger stabbing on the phone which is a PITA. And the other thing is, not a lot has been happening, as I am only in the very early stages of this season’s outdoor grow. But it’s been a while so let me give some updates.
WG - White Widow XTRM x Gorgonzola;
This was one of the 3 strains I grew last year and one that I can report has been my favourite as it enhances nicely but leaves the mind pretty clear so feels very comfortable when coping with unplanned interactions.
Dynavap;
I got one a these a little while ago as a backup vape that wasn’t battery dependent and could be portable. I have found the quality of the rips to be outstanding to the point it become my daily driver and gave me a new appreciation of my stash. However, recently I have become aware that those thick potent rips are more fierce on the lungs than what I had been used to from my previous daily driver, a Silver Surfer, which if anything just gave me a dry throat.
This past week I have taken a break from vaping and instead I used my Ardent unit to decarb some WG and have been chomping a small decarbed nug in the evening (or 2) with a swig of olive oil to assist absorption. I have found the effect from this very pleasant, reminiscent of something @DonkeyDick once said as he described having a hit of CBD bud, of course this wasn’t CBD heavy (that I knew of) but it feels like a really nice relaxation flooding thru the body, and I sleep better during the night.
Today I took delivery of a little glass mini rig that allows my vapcap to sit in the female connection, so I broke my ‘vape fast’ and tried it out, it was much smoother, but I imagine if I went from using the kitchen gas stove to a single flame lighter then I’d probably be able to achieve an even better consistency.
Once we’re restored with a computer I will start a new journal. But for now, this is what I have underway.
CBD Express auto; which is growing strong, only a month since germinated and plenty of pistils.
Godfather OG;
This is/has been growing strong. Not quite the size of the CBD Express which was planted straight into its forever home. I feel I made a mistake when I choose to plant the photos into small pots buried within 2 larger pots. Today when I decided to up pot I found the tap root had grown right thru the landscape fabric pot liner and down into the middle pot soil which contained more richly amended soil. So a few hours later she is ok but clearly a little shocked by her uppotting. And still need to top her for quadlining. I normally micro top but this time I wanted to let it grow out more and then try to grow out the cutting. I feel the pot within a pot within a pot is not working out and I should probably soon go straight to the final to avoid this happening when the plant is half way thru being trained. Previously I had used the fabric lining with stand alone pots, where roots where surrounded by air and air pruned. But I am realising that when the pots are buried within one another the roots behave differently and just try to go down. Anyway, there is something for me to learn from already!
Strawberry Cough;
This one is still a young seedling but hopefully progresses into a great plant. I am looking forward to trying her 80% Sativa qualities.
Mango Sherbert;
Also at the young seedling stage, fingers crossed for good progress ahead.
Mexican Sativa;
I had great hopes for this one but it is not looking good, only 1 germinated out of 5. And unfortunately when it did, the ‘helmet’ didn’t come off which I managed to remove but my eyesight didn’t initially pick up that the membrane was left on binding the cotyledons, and the following day when I attempted to remove it, I succeeded, but it really came at the expense of more movement to the sprout that I wanted, so now it is quite stunted and I doubt very much if there is any real hope for it.
So that is about where I am up to currently.
WG - White Widow XTRM x Gorgonzola;
This was one of the 3 strains I grew last year and one that I can report has been my favourite as it enhances nicely but leaves the mind pretty clear so feels very comfortable when coping with unplanned interactions.
Dynavap;
I got one a these a little while ago as a backup vape that wasn’t battery dependent and could be portable. I have found the quality of the rips to be outstanding to the point it become my daily driver and gave me a new appreciation of my stash. However, recently I have become aware that those thick potent rips are more fierce on the lungs than what I had been used to from my previous daily driver, a Silver Surfer, which if anything just gave me a dry throat.
This past week I have taken a break from vaping and instead I used my Ardent unit to decarb some WG and have been chomping a small decarbed nug in the evening (or 2) with a swig of olive oil to assist absorption. I have found the effect from this very pleasant, reminiscent of something @DonkeyDick once said as he described having a hit of CBD bud, of course this wasn’t CBD heavy (that I knew of) but it feels like a really nice relaxation flooding thru the body, and I sleep better during the night.
Today I took delivery of a little glass mini rig that allows my vapcap to sit in the female connection, so I broke my ‘vape fast’ and tried it out, it was much smoother, but I imagine if I went from using the kitchen gas stove to a single flame lighter then I’d probably be able to achieve an even better consistency.
Once we’re restored with a computer I will start a new journal. But for now, this is what I have underway.
CBD Express auto; which is growing strong, only a month since germinated and plenty of pistils.
Godfather OG;
This is/has been growing strong. Not quite the size of the CBD Express which was planted straight into its forever home. I feel I made a mistake when I choose to plant the photos into small pots buried within 2 larger pots. Today when I decided to up pot I found the tap root had grown right thru the landscape fabric pot liner and down into the middle pot soil which contained more richly amended soil. So a few hours later she is ok but clearly a little shocked by her uppotting. And still need to top her for quadlining. I normally micro top but this time I wanted to let it grow out more and then try to grow out the cutting. I feel the pot within a pot within a pot is not working out and I should probably soon go straight to the final to avoid this happening when the plant is half way thru being trained. Previously I had used the fabric lining with stand alone pots, where roots where surrounded by air and air pruned. But I am realising that when the pots are buried within one another the roots behave differently and just try to go down. Anyway, there is something for me to learn from already!
Strawberry Cough;
This one is still a young seedling but hopefully progresses into a great plant. I am looking forward to trying her 80% Sativa qualities.
Mango Sherbert;
Also at the young seedling stage, fingers crossed for good progress ahead.
Mexican Sativa;
I had great hopes for this one but it is not looking good, only 1 germinated out of 5. And unfortunately when it did, the ‘helmet’ didn’t come off which I managed to remove but my eyesight didn’t initially pick up that the membrane was left on binding the cotyledons, and the following day when I attempted to remove it, I succeeded, but it really came at the expense of more movement to the sprout that I wanted, so now it is quite stunted and I doubt very much if there is any real hope for it.
So that is about where I am up to currently.
syenite
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Great to have a new update from ya, Stunger!What's this about single-finger-tapping on the phone? Use your thumbs, mate! S2g, some kids these days have never seen a desktop computer before
I'm so jealous of your glass piece. Might have to gift one to myself for Christmas.
All 4 are looking good! As I've mentioned, I have a personal investment in watching that Mango Sherbert!
Can't wait to see more.
That’s a beautiful bit of glass Koro!
Don’t give up on the stunted seedling. She’ll be stronger than she would have been if she pulls through
Mouthwatering selection of chemovars buddy
Don’t give up on the stunted seedling. She’ll be stronger than she would have been if she pulls through
Mouthwatering selection of chemovars buddy