WOW! I thought I was long winded. LOL!
You're not kidding. I clicked the button to post that, saw the length of the post, and thought, "Whoops!"
I think I like you!
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That's scary. You should probably go have that checked, lol.
Wait a second... I thought you stated you
think like me.
I had no idea about the history of AN. I have never used their stuff either, but will be using Iguana Juice Grow/Bloom, Organic B, Wet Betty Organic, and Nirvana in about a month when this harvest is complete. I will definitely read more carefully when I read about their stuff from now on though, as they do seem to boast a lot, where as the others really do not.
Always read what you can. Make up your own mind. Then try what you want to and decide afterwards if you made the right decision or if you want to try something else.
Just because they boast a lot... Doesn't necessarily mean that their products aren't worthy of boasting about. Let me know how they work for you. Like I stated, they've definitely worked great for some.
I am just getting back into this again after 8 years off. I am like 3.5 weeks into my 1st garden since then, and the only things I really remember are the technical stuff on my lighting, air circulation, and stuff like that.
I took some time off - far less than eight years - and I'm worried that I'll forget something basic. Sounds like you remember the basics and that's important. Best of luck on your grow. Do you have a journal? If so, you might wish to put a link to it in your .SIG so that I and others can easily find it, subscribe, and follow along & cheer, learn, and maybe offer a suggestion or two along the way.
The organic hydro nutrients have come such a long way in 8 years.
You're not kidding. Lots more choices. Many of them probably work very well if used in a grow that's tailored to their properties. I don't have the knowledge that I need to realistically even guess about which of them work best - or even in what kind of setups, really.
Anyway, I am still learning about Chelates, and I am quickly coming to the conclusion that they are a necessary evil in Organic Hydro nutes.
In a week you'll probably know more than I do about them because it seems like one of those "important concepts to know.". I pretty much stated what I knew about them in my other post
. Properly-chelated nutrients are more likely to remain dissolved in suspension instead of precipitating out (which might not be a problem for the plants, but as you observed in the past, can be a nightmare when the grower is using small-diameter lines/orifices). It also keeps two or more components from reacting with each other. Probably much more important when dealing with nutrients/et cetera that are more of the "metallic salt-based" variety than with "organic" ones, but still.
All I can say is that I was real excited when I read about Iguana Juice, and the other Hydro Organic lines from AN. I can not wait to see how they work out in my garden, as I am trying really hard to achieve the closest thing to 100% Hydro Organics I possibly can.
AN is very likely to be the #1 brand for stirring feelings of excitement, lol. Maybe that's got something to do with the way I regard them; say you're just some guy (gal? IDK and it's not important) who's never grown cannabis - or possibly never grown anything - before but who's decided you want to... You walk into a hydroponics shop and there's 15 different product lines but one's in-your-face and from looking at the labels you'd almost think that you could bring it home, mix it up, pour it on a seed and the seed would turn into a pile of buds
. I'd be happier to see that new grower start with something simpler (and cheaper) that's been around long enough that there are many different recipes/methods available (most of which work to one degree or another) and that the grower can also use to grow just about any other plant for decoration, medicinal use, food, et cetera (I suppose that the AN line could be used for all of that too, don't get me wrong). The grower can purchase a much cheaper line, maybe something with two or three different main components that will work ok by themselves and related optional supplements that may be of benefit if/when the grower feels ready. He/she can then safely learn the concepts that would be applicable to any method/style/nutrient and do so cheaply. If he/she does well, he/she (
es?) will have some idea that there may be better - or at least better in one way or another - brands/lines out there, and es might be likely to experiment with them in the future, perhaps even using them and their original brand on clones from the same mother to see for themselves not only which produces the most, but which best fits the style that they are developing. And if something happens and the grower is not happy with es first harvest, es knows that there are other possibilities out there. But if es
started with the most expensive stuff and still couldn't have a satisfactory harvest, es just might get disappointed and find another hobby.
Yeah, I guess such an attitude does make me a little prejudiced. I'll try to keep that in mind in the future.
I am just a little worried about the rumors I am hearing though... That is while Hydro Organics will definitely make your harvests taste much better than "Chem Nutes"
), the yields are substantially smaller, and the harvests could take a little longer than normal.
IDK if the harvests would have to take longer to get to. As for the others (both the positives and negatives), a lot of that probably would have to do with tailoring the grow so that everything works well together instead of trying to make one part - be it the nutrients or something else - work with a setup that would be best served by using a different thing. For example, I've read that a lot of organics work best with microbial life. Maybe to break down ingredients which might not be already broken down into a form that the plants can immediately uptake and use? But if a reservoir contains such life and someone like me comes along... I like mad levels of aeration and the resultant super-saturated levels of dissolved oxygen in my reservoirs. If I tried to run such a system with, say, General Organics (again, not recommending that line, I've just seen it happen with it), I'd quickly end up with extreme amounts of foam and probably a runaway population of micros because I'd have a great environment for them with none of the natural checks and balances. So if I wanted to use GO, I'd need to modify my growing method accordingly.
Hope to talk to you about this stuff again sometime, Bro!
It would be a pleasure. Make sure to remind me when I'm being long-winded. Speaking of which, I better stop typing now
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