Ya sure bud! No one likes em. Sometimes they are curled under too and aren't open like this
Occasional seeds in weed?
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Canachris
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I read an article way back in the early 80's in high times mag. they talked about how the need to reproduce is so strong in some plants that they will produce some male flowers . So it could just be a one off and not anything environmental. At the time I'm growing a seed I found in some purple marmalade from a medical dispensary, seeds happen... an hermies need love too
100% I told him I've had a plant or two with literally 1 or 2 seeds in the entire plant...
This is actually a relatively common occurrence in feminized seeds. It used to happen a lot more when breeders first started reversing with STS not so much in today's offerings. I have run across one or two from a plant from time to time. Usually it happens to me anyway when the flowering goes longer than normal.
That picture that Krissi posted is text book on what to look for. You get a light green growth in a bud that will throw a seed.
That picture that Krissi posted is text book on what to look for. You get a light green growth in a bud that will throw a seed.
Savvage61
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Thank you very much, you taught me my lesson of the day , and one ill never forgetYa sure bud! No one likes em. Sometimes they are curled under too and aren't open like this
In the images Krissi posted pay very close attention to the coloring in the images, that is unmistakable. There’s some situations where you won’t be able to get really close to the bud to look for the shape but you’ll still see the color. If you herm late in flower your buds are already so big and frosty it can be hard to see the banana shape (especially if you SCROG or grow in a confined space) but that coloring will be very obvious. It looks like a paler/blander color than typical new growth.
One thing I’ve learned to do is if you have an IPhone 7 quality camera at least (or better obvs lol) you can snap a picture of the bud. There’s something about the coloring and correction the camera does that makes them stand out more in the picture than in person. Take a look at the picture for little spots that seem to stand out, then you can go in, in person and look right at that spot.
Also, @Savvage61 about the amber trichomes.. exactly.. If I’m growing a sativa I’m not really interested in the couch lock or being slowed down. I’ve found also that when there are few to no amber trichomes the come down is not bad at all. Normally with indica leaning or 50/50s once the high wears off I’m left feeling cold, tired, and lethargic.
This most recent harvest I had zero amber trichomes and the come down is non existent.. No lingering weariness, no foggy head, just ready for another smoke lol.
One thing I’ve learned to do is if you have an IPhone 7 quality camera at least (or better obvs lol) you can snap a picture of the bud. There’s something about the coloring and correction the camera does that makes them stand out more in the picture than in person. Take a look at the picture for little spots that seem to stand out, then you can go in, in person and look right at that spot.
Also, @Savvage61 about the amber trichomes.. exactly.. If I’m growing a sativa I’m not really interested in the couch lock or being slowed down. I’ve found also that when there are few to no amber trichomes the come down is not bad at all. Normally with indica leaning or 50/50s once the high wears off I’m left feeling cold, tired, and lethargic.
This most recent harvest I had zero amber trichomes and the come down is non existent.. No lingering weariness, no foggy head, just ready for another smoke lol.
Savvage61
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I ever thought much about the after high But now you mention it makes a lot of sense. everything im growing this time is sativa leaning or 50/50 I am going to do a zero- amber harvest. I got plenty of couch lock from the last harvest its the perfect time.
as far as spotting it OMG I had 1 plant that had a stem that the leaves were a kind of yellowish compared to all the other plants.I had never seen anything like it before but everything was looking heathy I thought nothing of it. it wasn't the end of grow lack of nitrogen leaf it was a pale green I bet anything that was the culprit. I have pics somewhere
@Keffka do you live in Maine? if so how far from kennebunkport ?
as far as spotting it OMG I had 1 plant that had a stem that the leaves were a kind of yellowish compared to all the other plants.I had never seen anything like it before but everything was looking heathy I thought nothing of it. it wasn't the end of grow lack of nitrogen leaf it was a pale green I bet anything that was the culprit. I have pics somewhere
@Keffka do you live in Maine? if so how far from kennebunkport ?
These very small clumps of male flowers explain the majority of the cases when a grower says that they have found seeds but they never saw any males that produced pollen. Those little things can be hard to see. The gardener has to be looking closely to find them. Often he or she is looking for the usual balls hanging off a stem like a clump of grapes so these 'bananas' get overlooked. The trick of using photographs is a good idea.Ya sure bud! No one likes em. Sometimes they are curled under too and aren't open like this
Over the past year I have have pushed 12 to 15 clones through the flowering tent with harvest coming 8 to 9 weeks after the pistils started showing. Not a single seed found yet. And, I with those plants I have broken every written and unwritten rule regarding lights which supposedly cause seeds.
Before that I would keep the plants flowering for 10 to 11 weeks and I would find the occasional banana, sometimes even in the top flowers, and then find seeds when sorting the dried buds.
The plants were making the last ditch attempt to produce seeds to perpetuate the specie. If there is no reason to wait till the last minute of growth while looking for amber trichomes then why not harvest when the flowers are ripe with mostly cloudy trichomes at 8 or 9 weeks instead. Less electricity to be paid for. Less money spent on a couple of more weeks of feeding expensive nutrients. Fewer frazzled nerves worrying about seeds.
Savvage61
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@SmokingWings is this something I need to keep a eye on for every strain? or is this something that can be bred out of the strain? can this still happen with strains that were bred with 2 females? I always wondered how they could breed a female with a female. I understand that . now Im gonna have to re-teach my dad about the birds and the Bees.
sorry for the barrage of questions
sorry for the barrage of questions
@SmokingWings is this something I need to keep a eye on for every strain? or is this something that can be bred out of the strain? can this still happen with strains that were bred with 2 females? I always wondered how they could breed a female with a female. I understand that . now Im gonna have to re-teach my dad about the birds and the Bees.
sorry for the barrage of questions
My bad @Savvage61 sometimes I’ve got 100+ notifications and miss some stuff. I do not live in Maine, I’m in Michigan, Detroit Metro area, about 4 or 5 blocks from 8 mile (thanks Eminem
)Also in regard to males/herms yes, it’s something we’ve always gotta watch for. Stress can cause the plant to herm and grow male parts in a last ditch effort to reproduce. Light pollution in flower can also cause this. Essentially we’re trying to trick the plant into believing everything is all good and they have plenty of time to reproduce. It’s also why if we wait to long to harvest it can happen, the plant recognizes it’s gonna die soon and really really wants to reproduce.
Every new strain or plant has to be watched carefully until it proves otherwise. My case is a bit different since I take cuttings and grow clones. What affects the mother tends to have the same effect on all the others.
I had a plant that would start to show the 'balls' on the lower nodes at 21 to 25 days (3 to 3 1/2 weeks) after the first pistils/stigmas started to show. I cut off every one I could find, sometimes cutting off an entire twig if it had several clumps of male flowers growing. About 3 weeks later they were back. Every clone from that mother was doing this so I let it die out.
If the clone plant does not show 'balls' or 'bananas' until (approximately) the 8th week or later I will tolerate it since I am now pulling the plant for harvest at 8 weeks, sometimes 9. Waiting to 11 or 12 weeks for amber just does not seem worth it anymore and no one is complaining. For those plants I keep taking cuttings from cuttings and figure on a harvest at 8 to 9 weeks with no male flowers.