Nutes: What To Use & How To Use Them Tutorial

growlover420 said:
I have a ? About the GH Diamond Nectar: Premium Fulvic Acid allows the plant to break-down and use nutrients more efficiently.
Add 40ml during Veg cycle (only once!) and 40ml during 12/12 cycle(only once!)
is that once in the beginning or in the end of the veg/bloom phase an I am going to run autos so for my bloom should I wait until I know it is good an in the flowering stage if I have to give it at the beginning big thanks in advance
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General Hydroponics Diamond Nectar Liquid Premium Organic Fulvic Acid is a fulvic acid supplement that is best used at every watering. General Hydroponics Diamond Nectar Liquid Premium Organic Fulvic Acid is used at 15 milliliters per gallon or 3 milliliters per liter for soil.

Here is the General Hydroponics Diamond Nectar Liquid Premium Organic Fulvic Acid label

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growlover420 said:
Help please if anybody can point me in the right direction to talk to somebody about the GH line and the Maxigrow in the Maxibloom series I would be truly appreciative
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You may ask if you still have questions about the general hydroponics nutrient line.
 
pumpkinpatch1 said:
I'm a little bit confused...

I'm running a Hydroponics DWC (deep water culture)
fox farm nutrients.

What nutrient schedule should I follow?...
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pumpkinpatch1 said:
Good point. It came with NPK raw nutrients, I looked at the website and it looks a tad bit different than the one Dealzer came with. but still.

I already wasted and bought the ff nutrients.. that's why i'm asking. I'm reading the hydroponics nutrient schedule for FF and it looks wayy out of control. I thought 2tsp big bloom and grow big hydro 1 tsp for seedlings was a bad idea?? I've read other posts that said I should start with 1/4 and then work my way up.. i've read other posts that say only use 50%..

I'm tempted to try the hydroponics schedule "as it is" But I don't want to KILL my plants! Lol.... (seriously though) I'm just afraid it'll be too much or it'll kill the plant.
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Here is the Foxfarm Soil Systems Feeding Schedule


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Here is the Foxfarm Hydroponic Feeding schedule

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I would begin feeding your plants a 1/4 strength nutrient dosage and slowly increase the nutrient strength until you are feeding full strength nutrients. Yellowing and browning leaf tips are a sign of nutrient burn and the nutrient strength should be slightly decreased.
 
Bud Diggler said:
How about when I mix up my solution and I have a good bit left over, for coco and pearlite medium, watering a few times a day. How long does my left over water remain good to use? I put a lid on the bucket, which has about a gallon left to still water with.

And what causes the PH to rise after sitting?
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I believe that your already mixed nutrients should remain good to use for 7-14 days, you may have to readjust the pH before use. The pH of your already mixed nutrient solution may change on account of the pH buffering effect of calcium in your water source.
 
altainta said:
Any MINIMUM requirement to grow in coco without Liquid Fertilizers & store brought things ? I mean i want to know the minimum requirement to grow PHOTOPERIOD STRAIN & AUTOFLOWER STRAIN...Seprately for both..

E.g coco 1part + perlite 1part + compost 2 part.. Weekly compost layer etc etc. in flower add this and that eetc etc..
Mostly COCO / PERLITE BASED (SOILLESS)
Hope you understand
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Although its author BigIrishDoode has passed away the Lets Talk Coco! Organics & Salts thread remains the best source of information for using coco coir for growing cannabis.
 
420 said:
Well these are the charts I have available...

FOX FARMS SCHEDULE

Product list:

Grow Big--$16
Tiger Bloom--$16
Big Bloom --$16
Open Seseme--$23
ChaChing--$23
Beastie Bloom --$23
And the Optional : Bush Doctor Sledgehammer--$26

There is a 3-pack available for $65 of Open Sesame, Cha Ching and Beastie Bloom IF you can find it!

The last 4 Products are used in small quantities and only at specific times during the grow -- so if you know someone who wanted to go in on the 3-pack with ya, it would be worth it!

Here's the FoxFarms Feeding Schedule for Soil... Hydro is MUCH more complex, unless you use bubblersthen you can follow a Phasic feeding schedule (At end of weekly schedule!)


FOX FARMS FEEDING SCHEDULES


WEEKLY FEEDING- per Gallon
Sprouting and week 1--BigBloom 2TBS
week 2-- 2tsp Grow Big + 2TBS Big Bloom
Week 3--3tsp Grow Big + 2TBS Big Bloom
Week 4--JUST 3 tspGrow Big + 1/4 tsp Open Sesame
Week 5 same as week 4 unless going 12/12--

Week 5- OR--day 1 of 12/12-- 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Open Sesame
Week 6--same as above
Week 7-- 2 Tsp Grow Big + 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/4 tsp Beastie Bloom
Week 8-- 2Tsp Grow Big + 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Beastie Bloom
Week 9-- 2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/4 tsp Cha Ching
week 10-- Same as above
Week 11--2 tsp Tiger Bloom +1TBS Big Bloom + 1/2 tsp Cha Ching


At beginning of week 11--Check Trichomes-- Flush if ready.. otherwise, continue as with week 11 every week until you flush!


Also recomended--but not a nessesity--
Bush Doctor Sledgehammer (prevents lock-out)
use 2 drops per gallon of water between feedings starting in week 4 of 12/12


HOPE THIS HELPS CLEAR UP THE "HOW DO I USE THIS" QUESTIONS!!!

Source: Lady Zandra
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Can only assume that since this was posted in 2008 things may have changed with Fox Farms. Here is the soil fox farm feeding schedule and as you can see there are a few more items they suggest as well as more flushing then just at the end.
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Hope this clears up any questions for any soil Fox Farm Nutrient users. :peacetwo:
For their hydro schedule you can get it at FOXFARMS.COM Sorry only had the soil one here since I only grow soil right now.
 
FOR MIRACLE GROW NUTES :

If you really MUST use Miracle Grow Nutes or Soil cuz there isn't anything else available (cost can't be a reason, MG is about the same price as some organics !)

THEN USE THIS GUIDE PLEASE!!!

(enough for 2-3 plants .. just use more jugs for more plants!)
Get regular miracle grow (Not tomato or Rose food or azalea formula!)
AND Blossom Booster (or Schultz Professional Bloom food)
get 2- 1 gallon jugs of spring water from the store (about $1 each)
and an empty jug. Mark them (A) (B) & (C) --- (B) is the empty jug!

in the 1st jug (A) mix the MG at 1/4 the recomended rate for indoor plants.

In the 2nd jug (C), mix at 1/2 stregnth for indoor plants.

pour 1/2 of both into the empty jug (B)

Now-- when your plants get their 3rd set of leaves, feed once every 10 days. Start with (A) for the 1st 2 feed... then (B).. and end-up with (C) the week before you go 12/12.

FLUSH YOUR PLANTS WITH 5 GALLONS OF CLEAR WATER BEFOR GOING 12/12!

MG builds up-- and will lock-up as you add the stronger bloom nutes!
as the final part of the flush-- pour in a couple pints of your new bloom nutes (see below)


Do the same with your bloom nutes, Mix ahead in larger amounts... BUT--mix Jug (A) at 1/2 rate, Jug (C) at full stregnth-- and (B) the 2 mixed.

Start with (A) the 1st day of 12/12, then again in 10 days,
then switch to (B). Do not switch to (C) until the week before you flush for harvest!
when the trichomes just start turning cloudy, give em their last dose. In 10 days, check the trichs again.. if not all cloudy, you can feed again-- But go back to (B)

MAKE SURE TO FLUSH WELL AND WAIT THE FULL 2 WEEKS TO HARVEST!

You need to flush all the Nitrogen and magnesium out of the plants-- so Flush them well, put back in the bloom room the full 2 weeks till harvest, water as needed .. but absolutely no nutes or foliar sprays!

IF you foliar fed during the grow-- be sure to use a sprayer of water to gently shower it off the plants! (also gets rid of dead bugs & dust stuck to the buds!)

USING MG SOIL IS NEVER RECOMENDED!!
it has TIME RELEASED nutes-- so flushing is impossible... and you do not know how much nutes are being released or used by the plants.
If yYou Used MG soil, do NOT nute at all during veg... and use only additional P-K and suppliments without "N" during bloom...
And pre-harvest flushing can NOT be done on the normal 2 week schedule because of the time released nutes-- you must emergency flush when the trichs are how ya want em...



Cut the plant off at soil level. Place plant in a bucket with enough PLAIN tapwater to cover the base, but not touch lower limbs or vegetation....

Add a bubbler to the bucket to help "fool" the plant into thinking it is still alive (this only works up to 4 days before they wilt!)
Tthe plant will now use the nutrients stored in it's system . Leave under the lights at least 2 days-- up to 4 (3 is the usual amount)
IF you are one who puts their plants in the dark the last 3 days, give em at least 24 hours under lights before ya do... the photosynthesis will help the plant flush out unused nitrogen.


When using MG Fertilizer (as well as Schultz or Peter's ) Watch for:
Clawing
brown dry spots
crinckling leaves
pale new growth
Yellowing

if these happen, flush the plant, and wait 2-3 days before feeding again.
If Using MG soil and this happens, your best route is to re-plant in a bigger planter with different soil... DO NOT try to remove the existing soil from the roots of the plant!!!!

Good luck--
MG may not be the best-- but it CAN work!

HOPE THIS HELPS CLEAR UP THE "HOW DO I USE THIS" QUESTIONS!!!

Source: Lady Zandra
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Thehalobluntm said:
The bottle says 2 squirts for small plants and 4 for large for mg f ertz . Would jug a b 1/4 of a squirt
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in the 1st jug (A) mix the MG at 1/4 the recomended rate for indoor plants.

In the 2nd jug (C), mix at 1/2 stregnth for indoor plants.

pour 1/2 of both into the empty jug (B)

Now-- when your plants get their 3rd set of leaves, feed once every 10 days. Start with (A) for the 1st 2 feed... then (B).. and end-up with (C) the week before you go 12/12.

FLUSH YOUR PLANTS WITH 5 GALLONS OF CLEAR WATER BEFORE GOING 12/12!
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Mix Miracle Grow in your jug (A) with 1/4 recommended strength nutrients so for small plants it would be 1/2 of a squirt and large plants 1 squirt per jug.
 
Here is the nutrient feed strength recommended by Advanced Nutrients Sensi-GrowBloom A and B

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Cuttings and Seedlings 1 milliliter per liter or 3.79 milliliters per gallon, Small Plants 2 milliliters per liter or 7.58 milliliters peer gallon, Mature Plants 4 milliliters per liter or 15.16 milliliters per gallon.
 
I am using the FF organic nuts and following the FF feeding schedule, it calls for much less than those measurements, and I feed only after every other watering. The FF feeding schedule is online and easy to follow, the amounts on the back of the nutrient containers are higher than those listed on the FF feeding chart that is online, I hope this clears up the FF question.
 
Has anyone nailed down a good PHASIC feeding schedule for DaKine 420 nutes? Giving them a try on my first grow and so far finding there amount a bit heavy for the plants.
 
New to dwc here and just got bubbler bucket. I have a new clone been rooted about 3-5days in soil.Do I set it up and the media get moist first of plant dry and let the bubbler bucket saturated from the bottom? I'm wondering what the best way to clean off roots to put in dwc. And when should I start nutes (using DaKine powdered nutes) should I just start with ro water and then in a week do a 25% feeding or 100% any help or guidance in the right direction will be greatly appreciated.
 
Re: NUTES - What To Use and How to use them - Tutorial

I got pro mix bx with biofungicide as my soil and bought the botanicare pro grow and bloom. when should I start adding the nutrients with this kind of soil? and can I grow a good plant with those 2 nutrients?
 
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xave420 said:
I got pro mix bx with biofungicide as my soil and bought the botanicare pro grow and bloom. when should I start adding the nutrients with this kind of soil? and can I grow a good plant with those 2 nutrients?
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Great question that I was looking for an answer to myself. I'm using FFOF and have seen a number of claims that this will only be able to supply nutrients for part of the grow. Without a solid answer I guess the only way is to watch for nute deficiency then figure out what's going on.

edit: OK. Found my answer and I feel dumb. There's a chart on the previous page and here is a link to the FF feeding schedule. It never occurred to me that adding nutrients to a soil that has nutrients would be expected, but apparently FF thinks so.
 
As a new grower who does not have 1000w light, RO water, CO2, etc. I think it should be said that nutrient schedules don't apply to me as well as they apply to those with perfect environments.
I have 600w light so I will need somewhat less because I am not supporting the level of photosynthesis to use a full dose. (600w light=about 600 ppm for full feeding).
I use filtered 'city' water so I am starting with 114 ppm (of something) before adding nutrients.
I do not use co2.
Also, I don't believe that it is said enough that a nutrient deficiency (with todays high end nutrient lines) may very well be compounded by adding more nutrients since there is a very good chance that something else, such as cold or PH, caused to plant to reject available nutrients.
These are just the thoughts of a new grower who has been chasing his tail by putting too much faith is what I read and what I see on YouTube.
As I learn more, I want to suggest that if you are new like me there are a few must do's. You must have a PH and PPM meter (cheap ones are just fine). You must have a bottle of 7.0 liquid and calibrate your PH meter weekly. You must keep your coldest temperature of the day at 65F or higher. You must monitor the PH of everything you do. You must be patient.
Have a great grow.
 
I know under cfls the plants don't use as much nitrogen. As for feedings well I'm a biobizz guy soil nutes additives you name it I've bought there entire line of stuff.
 
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