Dasher
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Its like a forest in there, awesome. What day flower are they at ?
Newbie Fighting His Way Through His 2000 Watt Grow
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Sounds like there no longer stretching or vegging & it's time to work on bud size & trichomes
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elious
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Dasher, they are 31 days into flower. That's 31 days from the day I flipped them to 12-12. I think some people don't count the days until they begin to show flowering. Or at least that's how it seems sometimes. I have no idea if this is good, really. The first indoor was with an old outdoor strain that took much longer to flower. I'm curious how well these are going to produce. I have to be honest though, the picture makes this grow look better than it is really. But thanks for the props!
WizHigh, so at this point I should start stepping up the bloom right? I have been letting off the nutes all together for the last two weeks because I didn't want the bellowing and curling to continue to the point that it hurt the yield. I think they're ready for a light dose. I wanted to get your advice (and anyone who wants to share their knowledge, by all means, please do). The line of nutrients I'm using is set up funny. The npk ratios are strange, the micro has most of the N, the grow is an even mix (more or less) and the bloom has zero N. I'm thinking a touch of grow, a sprinkle of bloom and screw the micro because its to high in N and the molasses is good on micro nutes anyway. What do you think?
WizHigh, so at this point I should start stepping up the bloom right? I have been letting off the nutes all together for the last two weeks because I didn't want the bellowing and curling to continue to the point that it hurt the yield. I think they're ready for a light dose. I wanted to get your advice (and anyone who wants to share their knowledge, by all means, please do). The line of nutrients I'm using is set up funny. The npk ratios are strange, the micro has most of the N, the grow is an even mix (more or less) and the bloom has zero N. I'm thinking a touch of grow, a sprinkle of bloom and screw the micro because its to high in N and the molasses is good on micro nutes anyway. What do you think?
CheddamasheD
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Run a few dwcs and always found nutrient is way to strong to be accepted when starting with youngs or stressed plants I always start with beneficials vita biopac I swear by and run either canna rhyzotonic,vita plant start or even formulex for first to weeks to provide whats needed establishing a good plant to accept stronger nutes avoiding problems and defs.
You said there in there last 2 weeks before harvest? Or last 2 weeks before you flush and then run another week of just regular watering and then harvest?
For great taste and alot less chlorophyll 3 weeks of just watering and molasses will do fine. Alot more carbo instead of nutes is how I do it. So if your not using any bud boosters thats what I would do.
For great taste and alot less chlorophyll 3 weeks of just watering and molasses will do fine. Alot more carbo instead of nutes is how I do it. So if your not using any bud boosters thats what I would do.
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elious
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Well, that's what I'm wondering about. I have Hawaiian bud and bloom and I also have avalanche. They're both supposed to be used in the last few weeks of flowering. I just don't want to use the micro. Its high in N and the plants don't need it nor do they like it. The Hawaiian bud is something crazy like 2-55-17. But the avalanche is much lighter all around. I'll have to post the npk values when I get home and look it up.
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elious
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Oh, and they're just beginning their 5th week of flower. So they have a good 3-4 weeks left.
Well if you have bud boosters then I would use them now and not the base nutes or micro. If they dont need nutes dont give it. Let the additives do there job. See where there at in 2 weeks and go from there. But now is definitely the time to use the additives. I find it hard my self to catch the right time to use the stuff. Since im in hydro it should be alot easier now.
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elious
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Avalanche 0 - 0.15 - 0
Hawaiian bud 5-50-17
Grow 2-1-6
Micro 5-0-1
Bloom 0-5-4
The Hawaiian is a bloom booster and the avalanche is a "bud hardener". So you think I should add them asap... Will do man! I'm going to get the water set-up so it has time to let the crap out of it. Thanks Wiz, wish me me luck man! I'll update later this evening.
Hawaiian bud 5-50-17
Grow 2-1-6
Micro 5-0-1
Bloom 0-5-4
The Hawaiian is a bloom booster and the avalanche is a "bud hardener". So you think I should add them asap... Will do man! I'm going to get the water set-up so it has time to let the crap out of it. Thanks Wiz, wish me me luck man! I'll update later this evening.
Oh take it easy on that hawaiian bud man. Reminds of shooting powder and kool bloom dry. 1/4th per gallon should do fine if not less.
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elious
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I'm going to go REALLY lite on the Hawaiian bud. It's a mad man! The avalanche is pretty mild and it only calls for like 2ml per gallon... But I'm not going to give any more than that. In fact, I'll give half of that.
I heard of the avalanche. Cant wait to see the results you get from both. Im posted for those results. I wanted to try the avalanche my self but couldnt find any reviews on it. Wonder if its better than just using molasses. Hopes for the best 
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elious
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Kinda strange. I have two plants that have some bellowing leaves on the UPPER fan leaves. I was checking out a journal that had a similar issues and I remember looking into it and finding that it was a manganese def. Its linked to cal and mag but they just got a shot of molasses. That has the cal and mag in it. .........I'll snap some pics and post'em.
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elious
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Sorry for the delay. Here's one of the leaves. It looks like N def to me. I know this is to be expected but its awfully early for too much yellowing. They get fed tomorrow and I'm thinking that I'll put just a touch of N in there even though they don't need much. I want this yellowing to slow down a bit.
Here they are, all getting big and shit.
Yea looks like natural yellowing that's happening. You maybe able to slow it down a bit but remember you don't want to much chlorophyll so late into the flowering
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elious
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Spoken like a true veteran. I'm not too sure I'll add any. I'll wait till tomorrow evening to make a decision. If they look way worse then maybe but if they look pretty much the same, I'll just give them the bloom booster.
Remember the plants are suppose to yellow this late into flower so there right on schedule. Keep doing what youve been doing. They are looking beautiful. Your smoke will be very good 
BluDreamZ
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The micro has most of your trace elements. Idk if its a good idea to not use it.
BluDreamZ
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Ive followed the gh feed schedule starting with 1/2 strength slowly moving up. And my plant is beautiful haven't had one yellow leaf and I'm 6+ weeks into flower. They actually call for more micro in bloom than veg!
BluDreamZ
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Wait that is a hydro fert.... are u growing in soil? Could be your problem!
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