Yes, that's what I'm doing. The top node gets flattened and the bottom is growing up to meet it. I must have not described it well or wrong. Sorry about that!So symmetrical! I'm confused about keeping the lower node so flat below the upper one though. Won't that mean the plant always sees those branches as inferior to the ones on the top node?
I would think you would want the lower one at the same height as the upper and then kept flat.
It's a mystery today Bode! These full bore sativa's can be funky growers! I'm surprised at how miniature this plant seems. Lots of branching and nodes that way but all small so far. Maybe the SIP has to make second gear? She never did appear to do the stall they all seem to have on pot up tp SIP.
Maybe I have my thoughts different here. I'm considering the tips of the lower node branches when they reach the tips of the top branches to be in sync hormone wise. What do you think? So it's the tips and not the branch that I'm considering.So symmetrical! I'm confused about keeping the lower node so flat below the upper one though. Won't that mean the plant always sees those branches as inferior to the ones on the top node?
I would think you would want the lower one at the same height as the upper and then kept flat.
My question too.
So with your first sentence I can say that's what's happening. The buds (tips now) will be at the same level even though the two nodes are at different heights. Your second sentence is exactly what's going on. We're talking the same game here I'm thinking. I'm waiting for the lower plane to catch up to the upper, that I keep down flat. Then I'll do my best to maintain a level canopy at that single common plane.
I think we're all agreeing on the same thing. Maybe not Shed? I see in the pic the top node does look like it's going up more than it is. I'm making all the top branch nodes as flat as I can. It takes a day or two to grow enough to bring down flat so there's some that look pretty tall for being flat.
When it's play it doesn't feel like work ay.
Absolutely gorgeous Quad. Perfect. And the other four plants are growing so fast it’s incredible. That Sky Muffin keeps standing out to me every time I see it for some reason. She’s purty. Amazing work SO…She's cooking with gas Lerugged! I made a change yesterday and took off the bottom node leaving her a Quad. I think she'll be less a mess and more manageable this way. She's moving right along! I wonder how much longer to veg to fill the tent?
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As long as they all end up in the same plane before flower you’re good, no? How you get there is one thing but being there when you flip is the goal, isn’t it?
Btw @StoneOtter, if it were me, since the Quad is SO symmetrical, I would literally leave it exactly like it is, allow no further new growth except on these going up, and you’ll have a multi-cola, symmetrical BEAST, with long stems on every cola and the right number of colas for max growth on each. Not too many to dilute their size like a scrog does. Not so few that you’re overly dependent on what’s there. Awesome air flow between each cola. And you’d get side branching which you would decide what to do with in each case. Imho you’re set up perfectly for this. It would end up around a 12-20 giant cola indoor beauty. Just me…lol!
Thanks Aiz, that's exactly what I meant.
Oh Man Sky Muffin has the genetics behind her to be something super nice! She and Northern Stank are my interests now knowing their background! Funny they both are moving the fastest. They want to get lst already tomorrow! They'll be running the show with timing lst and flip I think.
I see. You may be right. Let's see if my thought of letting the bottom catch the top is also a good way. The top is being held down with Carhooks waiting for the lowers to catch up. Though the top is unruly looking, its branches are being held down. Bottoms are reaching for them. I think tips are where the hormonal science lives, not necessarily the branch itself. Maybe @Light Addict come and will have an opinion. I think he invented working with hormones this/or a correct way!Thanks Aiz, that's exactly what I meant.
This is my take: with the bottom layer lower than the upper one, the upper branches will always grow faster than the lower ones and the lowers will have a difficult time catching up. If you let the lower node be the same level as the upper the plant will consider them equal in terms of hormone distribution.
This is thought provoking!
You can just turn the hook over, and use it to lift the bottom branches up- you'd still use a regular hook at the end of the branch to keep the tips close to the same height as the upper tips.
That's the plan from day one man!I'm all in to watch you rock this plant! As long as you hold each individual branch off the top node flat then I can see where you're going.
So are you saying on the lower node I can/maybe should at some time, just bring the ends up to the top nodes height now? That makes sense. The antiCarhooking is a great idea!You can just turn the hook over, and use it to lift the bottom branches up- you'd still use a regular hook at the end of the branch to keep the tips close to the same height as the upper tips.
That's one reason I prefer to keep my seedlings as short as possible, so, in the beginning, there's only about an inch difference between the height of the lower tips and the upper tips, which can be easily adjusted with the branch angle.
Another way to put it is- at this stage, the branch angle can determine the height of the tips, so you adjust that angle to where the lower tips end up apx. the same height as the uppers.
I hope I explained that ok...
Exactly! And the sooner the better, imo...do it while those lowers are still a bit flexible, makes it easier..
Ok Carcass. I'll see about the adjustments tomorrow! WOOHOO!Exactly! And the sooner the better, imo...do it while those lowers are still a bit flexible, makes it easier..
It makes for a nice, flat canopy when she starts stretching...although, there's no guarantee she'll stretch evenly..
A lot of the main branches on this one were lifted up- not the best example, because she didn't stretch at all, but those buds are all still the same height they were before she really started flowering- she started out flat, and stayed that way.
She may have stretched a little, but it was all horizontal..
