New grower here looking for any advice

[MochaBud]

I looked close at the pix's and read your brief.
I did not read replies ... this is my take:

Over watering. You're keeping the roots soaked, drowned. They can't take up nutes that way and are showing signs of lock out. The clawing in pictures three thru five show that.

Water when the medium gets dry. If it takes a week to dry then so be it.
Nute to 800 ppm when you do water, and ph to 6.0 or there abouts.

And, since you're a new grower, consider choosing an easier genetic to grow next time.
Someone that just got their drivers license should not be driving a Ferrari.

I'm sorry @Auggie, but if he follows your advice his plant will die
Did you not read the part where he's in COCO, and needs to water everyday

And what plant are you growing that you need to PH at 6!!!!

And the last comment...well...The same could be said for people giving advice

 

[Oz3]

I have two “tiger cookie” plants just starting there 4th week of flower and on Saturday they took a turn on me not sure what went wrong they were healthy plants in veg using advance nutrients basic, grow, micro and bloom, feeding them twice then a flush, i would feed them 3ML of each fertilizer (grow micro bloom) with ph of 5.9-6.1 per gallon of water in coco using reverse osmosis water I buy from a store, then I’d just flush them with the reverse osmosis no ph adjustment and when I they started to flower leaves were getting pretty dark green so I decided stop feeding didn’t wanna run into over feeding so I just ph the water and flushing trying make it easy

What nutrients you using?

 

[Oz3]

I have two “tiger cookie” plants just starting there 4th week of flower and on Saturday they took a turn on me not sure what went wrong they were healthy plants in veg using advance nutrients basic, grow, micro and bloom, feeding them twice then a flush, i would feed them 3ML of each fertilizer (grow micro bloom) with ph of 5.9-6.1 per gallon of water in coco using reverse osmosis water I buy from a store, then I’d just flush them with the reverse osmosis no ph adjustment and when I they started to flower leaves were getting pretty dark green so I decided stop feeding didn’t wanna run into over feeding so I just ph the water and flushing trying make it easy

Why you flushing your nutrients out after feeding?

 

[CBD BudMan]

I have to agree with @MochaBud on this one. Your girls are starving for food. FYI... PH ing your water and nutes is extremely important because if the numbers are off, your plants can't receive the food that ur giving them.

Hope this helps

 

[Oz3]

I have to agree with @MochaBud on this one. Your girls are starving for food. FYI... PH ing your water and nutes is extremely important because if the numbers are off, your plants can't receive the food that ur giving them.

Hope this helps

Yep. He's only giving them 3 ml at a time. That stuff call for 3 ml per liter. So at least 15ml a gallon and it should perk up. 15 ml of each nutrient.

 

[Auggie]

I'm sorry @Auggie, but if he follows your advice his plant will die
Did you not read the part where he's in COCO, and needs to water everyday

And what plant are you growing that you need to PH at 6!!!!

And the last comment...well...The same could be said for people giving advice

Well, to each his own I guess.
There is more than one way to grow a plant.

I use coco, run two 12 light rooms, harvest every month rotating.
I usually plant Gorialla Glue 4 as I have routine buyers for all I can produce.
I get 1.7 to 2.4 grams per watt per 60 day run.

Right now I have a half room of Williams Wonder. What an amazing plant! I get a lb off of three knee high plants -- so thick with cola you can't even see the main stem. That makes a 3.0 gram per watt run.

It's the ph of the medium that counts, not the ph of the solution you put in the medium.
And, I bounce it around to pick up different traces on different days.

 

[Auggie]

if the numbers are off, your plants can't receive the food that ur giving them.

For that day, yea.
So, tomorrow hit em at 6.0 and they pick up different nutes.
Over a week THEY GET THEM ALL.

 

[MochaBud]

Well, to each his own I guess.
There is more than one w

Sorry dude, hadn't smoked yet, been busy ah, there I'm good now...man didn't mean to sound so gruff

What I should have said is...He was growing in coco, and in coco you need to water at least twice maybe 3 times a day with cal-mag depending on root growth, and every other day with mild nutes and to PH "EVERYTHING" he puts into it to 5.7-5.8, even if he's just flushing which he shouldn't do in the first place

 

[MochaBud]

And hey @Rallington this should help you with your PH...you're in coco, so use the hydroponic side

 

[Mel]

Potassium deficiency due to over water maybe? But im keen on others input as im nearing this phase

 

[Auggie]

What I should have said is...He was growing in coco, and in coco you need to water at least twice maybe 3 times a day with cal-mag depending on root growth,

Well, like I said, to each his own.
And, the only hard and fast rule I have about growing is "There are no hard and fast rules."

I use coco exclusively. A LOT of it, for years and years.
I put 2oz of Epsom Salts (magnesium) in 50 gal of water each feeding.
Plus the feed (Jacks 1-2-3 formula).
I bounce the ph and the ppm depending on what the plants tell me.
And, if the pot is damp or wet two inches from surface - I skip the feeding.

I have noticed that when I let them get just a little bit hungry, and then feed them, ZOOOOOM, they take off. I do that routinely first week of bud set.
And, Gorilla Glue tends to want to lift the roof offa the building.

 

[The Phantom]

And hey @Rallington this should help you with your PH...you're in coco, so use the hydroponic side

I saw that chart when I was first hanging around the site, long before I became a member, ended up forgetting about it and recently saw it again. I’m glad I did because it really helped me out with my magnesium deficiency I was seeing in one of my plants that I was trying to dose with cal/mag to correct. I realized I had been hanging around pH 5.6-5.8 too much, not allowing the plant to uptake magnesium even after dosing with cal/mag to fix it.

It definitely taught me that not everything is solved by dosing with supplements, all it takes sometimes is a little more fluctuation of your pH to solve a deficiency. Accompanied by the plant problem solver sticky and learning sometimes micronutrient deficiencies can be corrected by looking at the bigger picture and finding corresponding macronutrients that aid in (or lock out) micronutrient uptake. Identifying and dosing to fix a deficiency is a short term solution in my books. I need to find out what the cause of the deficiency is in order to correctly treat it and keep it from coming back.

 

[Rallington]

Hello guys I see my post has been blowing up over the weekend I’ll give an update, I fed them notice lots of new bud growth and buds that did show any signs of potency are starting too! New white hairs, but I do have a new problem unfortunately spider mites I notice some slight webbing on the lower buds, I thought it was like cob webs or something but I kept an eye on it and noticed it got worse seem little white dots on the leaves!! So I sprayed them with neem oil today waiting on them to be watered and for All the people telling it’s over feeding it just can’t be there is no way there I haven’t fed them with anything until this last watering and the amount of food I was using was so marginal it might not of been doing anything for the plant and I understand I might over watering but I wait to the plant looks like this till I even water it I stick my hand it the pot move the soil around to see if it’s dry. I can’t get good pictures cause there wet obviously, And if you look at the one plant it looks like it needs water but there’s still some moisture around the root ball so im still waiting to water her

 

[Auggie]

Hmm.
So it wasn't water ph, or feed, or temps ... it was bugs.

And that's about as bad an infection as I've ever seen.

If you use neem oil, use it every other day for a week. Then take a look again. But you'll prolly need to use it every week on (for example) Tuesday and Thursday.
Every week.

If you want to get away from neem to something a little easier on your plants let me know, I have a couple of suggestions.

Get yourself a pocket scope and look at those buggers. Look at the eggs. Clear ones? Cloudy ones? Get used to what the bites look like. You need to be able to spot bugs a LOT sooner.

So, now that's THREE things on your Needed Equipment List:
Ph pen
PPM pen
Pocket microscope

You are no longer a virgin grower.

 

[The Phantom]

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[Rallington]

Hmm.
So it wasn't water ph, or feed, or temps ... it was bugs.

And that's about as bad an infection as I've ever seen.

If you use neem oil, use it every other day for a week. Then take a look again. But you'll prolly need to use it every week on (for example) Tuesday and Thursday.
Every week.

If you want to get away from neem to something a little easier on your plants let me know, I have a couple of suggestions.

Get yourself a pocket scope and look at those buggers. Look at the eggs. Clear ones? Cloudy ones? Get used to what the bites look like. You need to be able to spot bugs a LOT sooner.

So, now that's THREE things on your Needed Equipment List:
Ph pen
PPM pen
Pocket microscope

You are no longer a virgin grower.

I do have all three of those things starting to think I’ve had this problem from the start

 

[Auggie]

I do have all three of those things starting to think I’ve had this problem from the start

Yup.
I do too.

So, LEARN from this.
REMEMBER what the symptoms were at the beginning.

I do a close inspection of my girls for bugs every week. At least. Look for the speckling of the leaves. Look under the leaves. Keep lower leaves out of the dirt.
Do a scope inspection of selected leaves.
If you find these bugs early, they do a LOT less damage.

 

[Teddy Edwards]

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[Auggie]

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Yea, I looked over the products -- I bet they work.
But, I have been using the same pest control regime for a long, long time with a few modifications.
I used to make my own spider mite treatment : Two oz of mint oil, one oz of vegetable oil, one oz of dish detergent per gallon. Shake and spray every Tuesday and Thursday. I don't wait till I see 'em ...
Now, there's a commercial product that's almost the same that I don't think I can mention because they're not a sponsor.

For Thrips I use Spinosad ... generic. And I don't use that prophetically, I just watch for infection (rare in my area). The oil solution I use also treats/prevents aphids.

I haven't had a catastrophic infection in a long time.