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Good afternoon B A R. SIP stands for sub irrigation planter. The basic concept is to have a reservoir of water that the plants can wick up from. You don't want your grow pot to be sitting in the water. Various methods used include
- using a poly rope as the wick, into another container set below the grow pot
- using another pot filled with soil that sits in water and sitting your grow pot into the surface if that wicking soil
- creating a bed of wicking material (a use for all that perlite the LOS growers are shying away from) that you set your pots onto, keeping the water level about 1 to 2" below the surface level.

This allows the plants to take up the water they need. There's no overload of water, because any excess will drip through. No more guesswork or over/underwatering. It works best with good soil filled with lots of organic matter. The before and after shots and the expectation of no longer having to be concerned with gnats sold me. By the second week of the new year I'll have mine up and running. Just as my plants get into their real growth spurt. I'm growing in 7 gal Geo Pots, so I'm going with a basin filled with perlite. Reading everything I can find now.
 
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Sweetsue, if you have any pics, diagrams, or illustrations of SIP posting it here would be much appreciated. I'm a visual type of guy.
 
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Sweetsue, if you have any pics, diagrams, or illustrations of SIP posting it here would be much appreciated. I'm a visual type of guy.

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Thanxx PlanetJ. I couldn't have ask for a better illustration. I'll be implementing this to the letter, medium & all on the next plant I pot.
 
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I basically did the same thing but tweaked it a little. Instead of cutting the 2lt in half I used two bottles. This way the actual pot can hold more medium as 2lts are the final pots in this perpetual grow.


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I also thought about the medium or the wick itself falling into the reservoir portion so I decided to use the cap.


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My sincere gratitude to Sweetsue & PlanetJ.
 
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There are several 1 gallon water bottles(like Arrowhead) Ive noticed that have similar or greater strength/integrity than the 2l, and ofcourse can hold much more grow medium just my 2cents.
 
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:passitleft: Just cruisin' through Broke Ass and things look interesting here as always.....:high-five: Jason has fixed all my woes and things are on the way to being resolved... Hopefully he used another shipping service but either way he is sending me the whole fuse box and 2 lens to replace the one that was cracked and the one that fell off just in case it hurt it in some way I can't see and he has already got it on the way so the tent got here today and fella is going to make it a little more structurally strong ... it says it will hold 65 lbs and the light is about 45 lbs and I just want more wiggle room than that so he is going to brace it for me somehow so hopefully by the first of the year we will be able to see what the 16 is going to do.... Jason has been more than incredible about taking care of all of this and keeping me from jumping of a building.... The customer service with Twilight is absolutely amazing. Guess we are always going to run into trouble with shipping and what not but when you can count on them to take care of you like Jason has.... well it just makes it easier to sleep at night....
Hope everybody has a very Merry Christmas..:xmas:....:circle-of-love:
 
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I don't think you can get any stronger than plastic Jinn, whether it's a 2lt soda bottle or 1gallon water container; It doesn't tear. A few of the reasons I went with the 2lt is they're easy to come by; even though we don't drink soda I just go by the recycling machines at the supermarkets and offer 1$ for 6 bottles, 2)I have limited real estate so even though the plants will have considerably lower yields the perpetual grow will make up for the lack of space and smaller plants, and most importantly I've witnessed Josh223 having great results with them.

I've been getting a lot of slack as of late about going strictly with Soda Pop Pots but let's see how it all works out in a few months. If it proves not to be successful I'll be the first one to bow down to all the "Nay Sayers". I grow for self indulgence so if I can pull down anything between a 1/2 to 1 and 1/2 OZs a week every week with each week being different smoke than the previous then this will be considered a success to me.

I told you Jason would take care of you didn't I Fifi? Congrats on the new tent as well.
 
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Not knocking it at all mate, I've got two plants in double big gulp cups from 7-11 just to see if I can pull an oz out of them.
I was just letting it be known that these days, there are new style water jugs that have all the benefits of 2l, just a bit bigger.:yummy:
 
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Dont thank me for it BAR, I just googled a clear image for ya, nothing more :) Thank YOU for showing me if it works ;)
 
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No problem Jinn & thanxx for the helpful advice.


The fact that you took time to locate the illustration using the same pots I use is worth my gratitude PlanetJ. This morning I put the SIP into operation.


I think we found our next Spider Girl II folks. Not 100% sure yet but I should know by the time I get home this evening.
 
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I don't think you can get any stronger than plastic Jinn, whether it's a 2lt soda bottle or 1gallon water container; It doesn't tear. A few of the reasons I went with the 2lt is they're easy to come by; even though we don't drink soda I just go by the recycling machines at the supermarkets and offer 1$ for 6 bottles, 2)I have limited real estate so even though the plants will have considerably lower yields the perpetual grow will make up for the lack of space and smaller plants, and most importantly I've witnessed Josh223 having great results with them.

I've been getting a lot of slack as of late about going strictly with Soda Pop Pots but let's see how it all works out in a few months. If it proves not to be successful I'll be the first one to bow down to all the "Nay Sayers". I grow for self indulgence so if I can pull down anything between a 1/2 to 1 and 1/2 OZs a week every week with each week being different smoke than the previous then this will be considered a success to me.

I told you Jason would take care of you didn't I Fifi? Congrats on the new tent as well.

I would just like to concur on this statement.... If it ain't broke ... don't fix it and you were very right about Jason.... He is absolutely awesome.... I did the major flip out thing for just a minute then he reeled me back in and calmly got it all straightened out in very short time.... The parts are already on the way and he has already sent instructions and diagrams of what I need to do.... Easy cheesy... Just the fact he was able to keep me from totally flipping out is amazing and quite an art if nothing else...:blushsmile:....:circle-of-love:
 
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So we can add another brownie point to the Twilight LED Group Co.; Customer service.
 
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I basically did the same thing but tweaked it a little. Instead of cutting the 2lt in half I used two bottles. This way the actual pot can hold more medium as 2lts are the final pots in this perpetual grow.


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I also thought about the medium or the wick itself falling into the reservoir portion so I decided to use the cap.


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My sincere gratitude to Sweetsue & PlanetJ.

Wonderful update Reg :thumb:

Glad to see you are slowly venturing into 'hydro' territory! Believe it or not, the concept behind the wick system is similar to any hydro setup. The wick allows for constant H2O to be fed to the plant without drowning the plant with overwatering!

One of the many reasons why hydro gives such fast results is because of its ability to make water, nutrients, and oxygen readily available to the plant without any stress.

In soil, the roots must wait to be fed to break down nutrients, soak up water, and PRAY that the medium is porous enough for adequate oxygen.

In hydro, the roots are submerged in a reservoir or medium where all of these elements are free to consume at the plants will.

You my friend are going to find a happy middle right here. I hope you enjoy it enough to finally take the plunge ;)
 
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Just popping by to say merry Christmas to you all and happy New year . I'm going to be very busy for the next few day's and I might not get time to say it later . All my very best to you all . And I'm loving the wick way bar
 
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