New City Grower 2.0

[Grayhawk]

k. I haven't ever used it before. plus im not as edu. as some.
my degree is in energy to produce and use. hopefully one day I will be able to be ag person also. because they taking grass and straw making fuel out of it..
oneday im going to use hemp to make fuel. which theory is possible.

 

[Grayhawk]

when should I water them since we don't think its root rot now. n more mild chem burn.
I re-potted the plants in bigger container now. n back in grow room now.

 

[b.real]

right away after a transplant, then again when they feel light. I still need to find my calling in life

 

[PeeJay]

If I'd seen the size of the pot, root binding would've been ruled out. The plant doesn't have a major issue. My concern was with what you said about needing to water it all the time. Do you ever soak the soil really well, or do you just put a set amount of water on each time? The bottom of the soil mass seems to be moist, but the sides appear dry.

If that plant had been thoroughly watered anytime in the last couple of days, that mass of soil out of the pot would have weighed a lot, like as much as a gallon jug of water. I don't think you have a nutrient issue at all. I think it is a watering issue.

 

[PeeJay]

got ya. and I don't thinks its root bound. I hope u can zoom in. on it. from here. but little wet at bottom but roots are not discolored or anything. looks like roots to me.

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What it looks like from the pictures is that you are pouring water on the top of the pot and it is nevef soaking into the soil. It just runs down the junction between the side of the pot and the soil, puddles a little at the bottom, and drains out the holes. Hard to say for sure from pictures...

Sorry, I'm typing on a tablet.

 

[Conradino23]

Grayhawk, can you tell me exactly what's in your soil mix, how long you cooked it, and where problem with leaves started, at the bottom (old leaves) or at the top (new growth)? Also, could you please post few pics of a whole plant? This dirty brownish color of your tips combined with dark green color of your leaves tells me you have nitrogen toxicity or you just locked out your phosphorus, but I need more info. I'd exclude overwatering and rootbounding though. That's PH or nutrient issue to me.

 

[NorCaliwood]

I see your Nursie is starting to fill in nicely. Keepem Green and have a Great 4th

 

[Grayhawk]

what should watering be. I usually use a cup for watering the plants. most time about 3 cups per plant. unless soil is wet. then not at all.

now I have 15 in square pot. with soil. what should I be watering with it. how much. that is.

 

[Grayhawk]

plant does not have root rot. we found out that so far.
might have mild nute burn..
problem started all over . leaves at bottom started to die off like supposed to as age of plant does.
soil is fox farm ocean forest dirt.
leaves at bottom are die-ing. and mid to 5in from new growth are dry. like they are die-ing as well.
can see pic.

 

[Grayhawk]

here are some nicer pictures.

this what we done so far. repotted into a 15in square pot. now.
we do know now its not root rot. but a mild case of nute burn, we hope.. these are some of the leaves. from bottom to top.

and it makes me have another question. on watering. how much water per gallon pot. does plant need.

 

[jaamzhow]

Those roots look nicely distributed - imho

 

[Lester Freeman]

Most problems arise because watering is not being done correctly.

When I water, I wait for the pot to become light, and I also feel the cellular strength of the plant, I feel if the leaves are "soft" or "hard". I also examine their fatigue and posture, when they are slightly drooped and the pot is light, I know it's time to water. For my 5-7 gallon pots I normally water with about 1.5 gallons to the point of run off, I let it soak so the roots are saturated completely, I then feed with the nutrient solution, but much more slowly on the feeder roots, allowing uptake easier. You shouldn't really need to be watering everyday in a large volume of soil, it should be able to last days, or even up to a week depending on the conditions , or weather (outside).

The roots in the first few inches of soil are not the same as the roots at the bottom.

The roots at the top have fine hairs that uptake water and minerals better, known as the feeder roots.

The roots below are the structural roots which are more responsible for anchoring the plant into the medium, they will have less fine hairs.


I would say to start watering more diligently, don't use cups, use a watering can and get something to collect the drain off. I would say to order some concentrated sea-weed for gardens, it really is an amazing foliar spray, especially helps "tingle the root zone" and promotes bacterial activity around those fine hairs...


Just my two cents though

 

[Grayhawk]

thank you that makes more since to me

 

[B A R]

Ive been to 1 block party in my life but there wasnt any food sadly. Eat well my friend

If there wasn't food it wasn't a block party... LOL

It sounds like a lot of fun. Wish I was there broke Ass.. Well assuming some of them eat hamburgers and pork ribs.....

Pisans on 86th st block party - sausages, mmmm!

Fifi, There's plenty of pork ribs down there for you; Pork sausage, picked barbecued pork, You'd be in pig heaven right about now. I can't tell you what block this one's on Jam. It would be too much intel...

what should watering be. I usually use a cup for watering the plants. most time about 3 cups per plant. unless soil is wet. then not at all.

Hawk, I've just read the whole scenario & then you post the above. If your only watering with 3 cups worth every feeding I know what your problem is: UNDER FEED WITHOUT A DOUBT.







While it was raining hard I did a little work up here. First off, here's the final weight of my smallest harvest to date:

STACK A. DOLLAR (Delicious Cotton Candy, Re-Veg)​

Wet weight

Dry weight minus a couple buds

Also the legacy of LAVERNE comes to a close. I planted the Willow branches in her pot. I'll keep you posted on the growth in one of the non-cannabis plant threads.

It was then watered.




OK, The rain has stopped. Time to eat some more & continue to get my drink & high on.

 

[Conradino23]

Ok, now I can see that. Yor plant is all droopy and has bad green color. If you use FFOF then you have quite rich mix from what ai read about it, so any nutrient pushing will cause unbalance, toxicity and then lockout. My advice is full flush, putting as much water as you can and then not watering for at least a week. Healthy plant looks like that.

 

[B A R]

Most problems arise because watering is not being done correctly.

When I water, I wait for the pot to become light, and I also feel the cellular strength of the plant

What do you mean by "cellular strength"?

 

[Lester Freeman]

What do you mean by "cellular strength"?

The "bounce-back effect" of the cell wall. It's like if you have ever picked fresh lettuce, the cells are very strong and they crunch when you eat it.

When they go limp, because they were picked too soon before dinner, than the cell walls have lost strength and they don't crunch quite as much.

In cannabis terms, when the cellular strength is low (or slightly limp leaves), than the plant could be in need of water.

Upon watering, after only a matter of minutes, one can see the droopy effect going away, and the plants begin to perk back up, feeling their cell walls then, it becomes strong and tough. More like the crunchy lettuce.

 

[B A R]

That couldn't have been explained any better Lest, thanxx.

 

[GardenFaerie]

The actual word used in the industry for what Les just described is "turgidity." It is just a word which means swollen with water or the like. After a good soaking rain, everything wakes up, turgid.

 

[Grayhawk]

See , u learn more here than college.
Who needs college in agriculture
LMAO

well I flushed my plant really good. so we will find out about turgidity, lol