N420 Grows Barney's Farm Orange Sherbert & Special Guests

[Ganjagrandaddy]

I always seem to run into this with the florescent I start them under probably because of the dome being tall so the light is to far away. I was washing my 1 gallon fabric pots today to get them ready for these girls. You are so right on the price of seeds I was actually checking out seedsman this afternoon and saw a couple of Barney's that caught my eye that I may just have to order

I go direct to barneys for their fresher harvested seeds. delivery to uk is only about 5 days. never had an issue with any delivery/order and as they sponsor here , you can get a 420 discount and free beans too. I am scoping seeds constantly and in my head , have enough now for next decades run !!. lol
I use them too mate. t5 200w. Thankfully i can put them virtually on top of the prop to limit the stretching. Might be useful to maybe only half fill the germ pot , then you can add soil/coco as it starts to stretch for stability. I use a toothpick as a matter of course now. small enough to fit the pots without fear of catching them with prop top . fingers crossed for you mate.
I have a sponsored fast buds auto run next ( sept 19) and am excited to try their genetics too. never done autos before so should be fun !.

 

[Ganjagrandaddy]

I moved the Gz into the tent tonight and put them under the bigger led. I dimmed the light as low as it would go and hung it 32 inches above the plants. After an hour or so I went down to check my temps and humidity it was 71 degrees and 56% rh the plants seemed to be responding well to the new environment.

I gave one of the girls a bit of support using a paper clip because she was so stretchy ( thanks Gg)

Unfortunately I found some silver streaks on one of the plants and after a closer look I found this

The little brown spot on the first picture is a thrip I am going to start spraying them soon but wonder if they are to young to spray?

Here is the rest of them no thrips on them as far as I can tell

Good catch mate on the thrips. They are bastards , prof has been battling them a while too. try a 20% milk/water in a sprayer with a touch of washing up liquid ( dish soap). It will kill unwanted soft bodied pests and wont harm your plants. if you soak the top layer of soil too , it will hopefully catch the emerging ones too. a layer of sand on top of the soil can stop them getting in and out to lay eggs too. i sadly lost 6 clones in this run to spidermite , 3 months old too. Thankfully had the Barneys girls as back up.

 

[Ganjagrandaddy]

I moved the Gz into the tent tonight and put them under the bigger led. I dimmed the light as low as it would go and hung it 32 inches above the plants. After an hour or so I went down to check my temps and humidity it was 71 degrees and 56% rh the plants seemed to be responding well to the new environment.

I gave one of the girls a bit of support using a paper clip because she was so stretchy ( thanks Gg)

Unfortunately I found some silver streaks on one of the plants and after a closer look I found this

The little brown spot on the first picture is a thrip I am going to start spraying them soon but wonder if they are to young to spray?

Here is the rest of them no thrips on them as far as I can tell

Love the paperclip even more than my toothpick mate. simply brilliant. nice one. keeps her 100% mobile and wont allow her to fold either. wont see no stinky rubbish toothpick in my grows again. "The Toothpick is dead , long live the Paperclip".

 

[N420]

I go direct to barneys for their fresher harvested seeds. delivery to uk is only about 5 days. never had an issue with any delivery/order and as they sponsor here , you can get a 420 discount and free beans too. I am scoping seeds constantly and in my head , have enough now for next decades run !!. lol
I use them too mate. t5 200w. Thankfully i can put them virtually on top of the prop to limit the stretching. Might be useful to maybe only half fill the germ pot , then you can add soil/coco as it starts to stretch for stability. I use a toothpick as a matter of course now. small enough to fit the pots without fear of catching them with prop top . fingers crossed for you mate.
I have a sponsored fast buds auto run next ( sept 19) and am excited to try their genetics too. never done autos before so should be fun !.

I would love to order from Barney's directly unfortunately they don't ship to Canada and I find seedsman has better prices then any seed bank in Canada for Barney's stuff. My wife and I really like the blueberry I just harvested so I think I want to try Blue Gelato 41.

Brilliant idea about only filling the pots half way then topping it up as they grow I will definitely have to try that.

Good catch mate on the thrips. They are bastards , prof has been battling them a while too. try a 20% milk/water in a sprayer with a touch of washing up liquid ( dish soap). It will kill unwanted soft bodied pests and wont harm your plants. if you soak the top layer of soil too , it will hopefully catch the emerging ones too. a layer of sand on top of the soil can stop them getting in and out to lay eggs too. i sadly lost 6 clones in this run to spidermite , 3 months old too. Thankfully had the Barneys girls as back up.

Kinda sucks about the thrips I will get to spraying them soon. Like your idea about the sand on top of the soil .

Love the paperclip even more than my toothpick mate. simply brilliant. nice one. keeps her 100% mobile and wont allow her to fold either. wont see no stinky rubbish toothpick in my grows again. "The Toothpick is dead , long live the Paperclip".

I happened to have those laying around from me trying to use them to attach my ties to from lst they didn't work very good because they would pop off the pot all the time so I found another use for them

 

[InTheShed]

I am going to start spraying them soon but wonder if they are to young to spray?

What were you thinking of using? Too early for neem and probably iso/water, so I'd go with Dr Bronner's unscented castille soap mixed with water. That will work for you straight until harvest day.

I'm not spraying milk on my plants though even though it's recommended by the guy with 8 kids! If you're going to add soap to the water it's the soap that's gonna kill them anyway .

 

[N420]

I got some stuff from the grow store awhile ago

Doktor Doom contact spray

It comes out like a foam and kinda sits on the leaves for a bit until it dries not sure if this is to harsh have not used it on the seedlings yet.

Is this the soap your talking about

What ratio of the soap to water would I use?

Would Damascus earth be a good thing to use on the top of the soil to kill the one's that come out of the soil

 

[InTheShed]

That's the peppermint, I'd go with the unscented.

Mixing instructions here:

How to Use Dish Soap to Control Bugs

Make your own insecticidal soap from a mixture of standard dish liquid and water to...

homeguides.sfgate.com

And pyrethrins are actually a banned pesticide in a few canna-legal states, so I don't use it.

 

[N420]

That's the peppermint, I'd go with the unscented.

Mixing instructions here:

How to Use Dish Soap to Control Bugs

Make your own insecticidal soap from a mixture of standard dish liquid and water to...

homeguides.sfgate.com

And pyrethrins are actually a banned pesticide in a few canna-legal states, so I don't use it.

Thanks shed for the mixing link I will try to find some of the unscented dr bronner's .I don't want to risk using the other stuff if it's been banned not worth the risk.

What do you think about using diatomaceous earth for the top of the soil

 

[InTheShed]

DE is great but it only works when it's dry, which means every time you water it becomes useless (unless you only bottom water). Then you have to wait for the top of the soil to dry out enough to put more DE on. In the meantime, the thrips can crawl back out of the soil and onto the leaves.

That's why I try to spray every other day once I see thrip damage, usually for a couple of weeks. DE would break the cycle faster though.

Another thought, but I'm not sure it's a good idea this young, is to spray the bottom of the leaves with a DE/ water mix. It lasts longer than the soap or iso spray as it drys leaving a coating of DE on the leaf.

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[N420]

Ok thanks again and you answered the the next question I had is how often to spray with the soap mix. If I am still having problems with the thrips when they get a little bigger I may try the DE spray you mentioned. I was able to find the unscented soap on a local stores website so will probably go pick some up tonight.

 

[InTheShed]

I've used DE in the past but got out of the habit because you can't use it in flower, but you can use the soap any time. The DE lasts much longer though, basically as long as the leaf is there. You can just spray new growth as it happens.

Don't try to make it go on thick though, as the leaves still need to breathe.

 

[N420]

I'm assuming I shouldn't spray the plants with the soap solution while they are under the lights. Spray them outside the tent then put them back after the leaves are dry

 

[InTheShed]

You don't want soap on the lights, that's for sure! I'd take them out while you still can . If they're under CFL or fluorescent I believe they can go back wet, as I haven't seen fluorescent bulbs burn wet leaves, though I can't say 100%.

If you're not running 24/0, you can spray at lights out as well.

 

[N420]

I have them on 24hrs right now. just moved them into the tent yesterday and have them under a 135 watt qb the light is 32 inches above the plants

 

[InTheShed]

Then I'd keep them in the bathroom with the lights on until they're dry .

 

[N420]

Will do shed thanks again for your help

 

[N420]

I have a sponsored fast buds auto run next ( sept 19) and am excited to try their genetics too. never done autos before so should be fun

Sorry Gg I never saw this above fast buds is supposed to be a great breeder for auto's would love a sub in when you get it going

 

[N420]

Just a quick update. I gave the Gz their first Castile soap treatment tonight I pulled them out of the tent and treated them. I tried to give them light spray but a couple of them fell over from the weight of the spray on their leaves so I made a couple more paper clip stakes.

They have been in the new environment for a day and a half they seemed to be responding well so I lowered the light a few inches so we will see how they are tomorrow. Fingers crossed that they are liking more light and I don't see any thrips.

 

[N420]

Had an opinion to ask of you guys the Os is showing what I think is a calcium deficiency there is some brown spots on the leaves I can get some pics when the lights come on. I fed them cal mag throughout flower and stopped at week 6 which is recommended by the manufacturer of the cal mag. I am on the first day of week 7 is it to late in the grow to give them cal mag ? Should I just continue without it I will probably be harvesting these girls in about 3 weeks I think

 

[InTheShed]

How does the manufacturer know how long the plant is going to go? I never understood how they can give those directions! When I used it, I fed cal-mag through harvest.