Mystic Blue First Grow!

[Autofacade]

Ok I will get onto it. I've fed the tea hopefully that will help with things and next water I will go in with the bloom I can't do anything atm purely because I've watered and don't wanna over water. Or would you just put some more water with bloom now on top of the tea?

 

[Emilya Green]

Ok I will get onto it. I've fed the tea hopefully that will help with things and next water I will go in with the bloom I can't do anything atm purely because I've watered and don't wanna over water. Or would you just put some more water with bloom now on top of the tea?

I would wait to see what the tea does

 

[Autofacade]

Okey dokey thanks again Emilya!

 

[Autofacade]

Hey so things are still not improving, we now have Browning starting in the middle of the leaves. Burn has slowed and stopped since the tea was added. My question is could it be nutrient lock? My thought process was if it's burning it's being over fed or is it not being able to take the nutrients up and just sitting in the nutrients causing it to burn but at the same time needing the food.
It dawned on me the other day that I think I may have massively messed up from the start. I haven't been de-chlorinating my water from the beginning and adding ph down to get the water to 6.5 with an acid based product has this killed everything off in the grow causing the deficiencies during the grow and now the nutrient lock out? or maybe the soil is at the totally wrong ph now? Could this be the problem does this even happen in organic soils with organic nutrients? And how would you fix it considering it is in full swing flowering?

We were going to put more food in and see what happens which I will do but I've just been doing a serious amount of homework and reading and it made me start to think and realise where I could have gone wrong.

Buds are frosting up still just struggling to put on any size. And flowers are starting to turn from white to orange only a few for now. I will get more pictures in the next couple of hours.

Sorry for the essay again @Emilya you must love seeing my name pop up hehe.

 

[Emilya Green]

Hey so things are still not improving, we now have Browning starting in the middle of the leaves. Burn has slowed and stopped since the tea was added. My question is could it be nutrient lock? My thought process was if it's burning it's being over fed or is it not being able to take the nutrients up and just sitting in the nutrients causing it to burn but at the same time needing the food.
It dawned on me the other day that I think I may have massively messed up from the start. I haven't been de-chlorinating my water from the beginning and adding ph down to get the water to 6.5 with an acid based product has this killed everything off in the grow causing the deficiencies during the grow and now the nutrient lock out? or maybe the soil is at the totally wrong ph now? Could this be the problem does this even happen in organic soils with organic nutrients? And how would you fix it considering it is in full swing flowering?

We were going to put more food in and see what happens which I will do but I've just been doing a serious amount of homework and reading and it made me start to think and realise where I could have gone wrong.

Buds are frosting up still just struggling to put on any size. And flowers are starting to turn from white to orange only a few for now. I will get more pictures in the next couple of hours.

Sorry for the essay again @Emilya you must love seeing my name pop up hehe.

You do seem to be overthinking it a bit... lol
Chlorine is only bad if you are trying to maintain life in that soil... and now with the introduction of teas that is exactly what you are doing, so filter that chlorine out or buy better water... you can't just let water sit these days to gas off the chlorine.. it doesn't work.
So nutrient lock or a well intentioned gardener feeding less than the recommended amounts... which is the more likely answer? Soil pH is not going to change that dramatically and that quickly... this again is not as likely as the underfeeding answer.
Try more food and be patient. Nothing is going to get better in just one watering. Next grow, do some things differently, but this time, lets continue on with what we have and stop trying to second guess everything.

 

[Autofacade]

Okey dokey lol haha. Sorry I have a tendency to start pooping it. Just over think and clearly have too much time on my hands haha!

One bonus the trichomes are going very nice and soooo much frost going on even if they are small should be nice. I'll get some pics

P.s. anyone reading this journal still new and don't wanna spend out on a microscope. Get a cheap 40× eye loupe with a led light (ebay £2.50) and position it in front of your phone's camera get it in focus and you get the photos attached.

 

[Autofacade]

Ok so she's been growing for 8 weeks now this is how she looks... I'd say another one and a half to two weeks left before flush for a week?

 

[mcren]

probably missed somehow this journal , glad to see more biobizz organic growers over here.
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im in for sure! if you and your girl dont mind

 

[Emilya Green]

all depends on those trichomes! You are definitely getting close!

 

[Autofacade]

The trichomes are a real pain to see how clear they are even with the eye loupe. I'm guessing going by the flowers is not accurate enough? What is the best time to go? Depends on the high you want right?

 

[farside05]

The trichomes are a real pain to see how clear they are even with the eye loupe. I'm guessing going by the flowers is not accurate enough? What is the best time to go? Depends on the high you want right?

I can't see well enough with the standard loupe, so I got a Carson Pocket Microscope off Amazon for $12ish.

 

[Autofacade]

I can't see well enough with the standard loupe, so I got a Carson Pocket Microscope off Amazon for $12ish.

I have a x40 atm. Is that higher magnification?

 

[farside05]

Up to 120x

 

[Autofacade]

Here's an update on the babe missy blue! Getting really close now to the start of the flush I reckon. What's your expert opinion.......

 

[farside05]

Trichomes are all clear and she's still got a lot of white hairs. 2 plus weeks is my guess. The buds will swell a lot from here. I'm not a "flusher". At most I'll taper the nutes down to about half the last couple days or last week, but I think you have a while before you get there. The end of a grow is the worst for me. The waiting, yuck. And all the fun parts are over (topping, training, defoliating).

 

[Emilya Green]

Let me give you a good argument for flushing, even though it is all the rage right now to talk about how it isn't necessary. If you have been running synthetic nutes, you have been building up salt in your container, and this salt in some degree is restricting water uptake into your roots.
The best time for flushing is right before the last 2 week budswell. This allows the roots to uptake the maximum amount of water that they are capable of during budswell, logically providing for you the biggest buds possible. The only way to see this benefit is to flush one, and not another, and see what the last two weeks do for you. I guarantee that after this side by side test, you will become a flusher.

 

[Autofacade]

I didn't do any of that apart from a small amount of lst. But this is good news I'm happy with her already! Lol

 

[Autofacade]

Hey Emilya! I've been reading your 6 plant grow all day today it's like candy just trying to find some of your ingredients as I'm from the UK. Ever herd of fish bone, blood meal? Can't find blood meal anywhere!

Going back to mystic blue. I'll give it until the trichomes have milked up then go in on the flush. And continue with just water for the last 2 week's.

Emilya quick question. Which should I use in live organics: Rain water or bottled spring water?

 

[Emilya Green]

Hey Emilya! I've been reading your 6 plant grow all day today it's like candy just trying to find some of your ingredients as I'm from the UK. Ever herd of fish bone, blood meal? Can't find blood meal anywhere!

Going back to mystic blue. I'll give it until the trichomes have milked up then go in on the flush. And continue with just water for the last 2 week's.

Emilya quick question. Which should I use in live organics: Rain water or bottled spring water?

Blood meal gets a bad rap... maybe it is blocked from the UK for some reason. I think I can find every ingredient that I use on Amazon these days.
I would always wait till I saw the very first amber, even down low, and then I would flush. It helps to also be aware of when they are expected to finish so you can properly time this thing.
Regarding rain or bottled spring... I would use either with no hesitation in my garden and I use a combination of RO and spring water in my gardens all the time, and in the spring and summer I will even bring a bucket of lake water in... the more microbes, the better.

 

[Autofacade]

Yh it's a right prick I'll find an alternative! Alfalfa is also another pain to get hold of, we only feed it to live stock in the UK in a pellet form I'm thinking get some and smash it up into a powder. Using rain water and spring how are you adjusting ph or am I doing the right thing by chucking it on.
My rain water comes out the garden at 7.5-7.8