My First Grow Journal-Holy Grail Kush- Purple Kush 6x12 Scrog 4 x 600W LEDs On Movers

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Mosquito dunks in the reservoir, a fresh hot shot in the area, and if all else fails spray with SNS217...I turned ladybugs in my grow...took care of the mites, I hear they eat aphids too..I hate pests! If all else fails NUKE 'EM !
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I do know the bottom picture is a thrip as i've had them and if controlled like cannasensi says they are no biggie.

I just coated my leaves in Canna Cure which isn't all that it just seems like soapy water which I could make myself with some N + Fe for foliar feed to keep them green. Neem oil would probably be better. Well I coated the leaves to drive them into the soil then I sprinkled Cinnamon on top of the soil to drive them deeper and kill a few of them in the process apparently. Then I dried my medium out as they love water and they all ended up in my drip trays which I washed down the sink.

They came back a little but only a couple and was easily manageable.
 
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so from what ive been reading if I have flying aphids that means there is an infestation somewhere. they only start to fly when the plant they have infested can no longer sustain the colony. I also read that a plant that is infested with them will start to yellow and die from the bottom up.the plant they were in started to yellow from the top and stopped about a quarter of the way down but it seems to have stopped. maybe the dunks are doing they're job? Im going to try to get a look at the roots of the big hgk,if I dont see any there then hopefully its just the flyers left,either way with 3 weeks left theres not much I can do as far as pesticides so hopefully the dunks keep them at bay and i ll toss a couple of bug bombs in there and completely sanitize the rooms.as for the thripes ive sprayed all the plants in the veg room several times with Safer End All and they disapear for a bit then show back up.do they go into the soil as well?
 
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I think that is a flying aphid. Personally, I'm not 100% certain, as there are a few tell-tale signs that aren't obvious in that pic. I agree with cannasensei - it looks more like a winged aphid to me. I went back and looked at your last pics some more - it does look like possible thrip damage (minor) on a couple if leaves, too. I had some flying aphids despite not having what I would have considered a "large infestation". Point being, if it was - not obviously to me. Though, a couple moms were tossed out rather uncerimoniously, so maybe worse than I thought.

Since you have benefit of being there: root aphids are less "segmented" than fungus gnats. FG torsos are two distinct parts/segments. RA wings are the length of their body. Fungus gnat wings are probably 70% of the length of their body. Root aphids have hairs or antennas - almost like tailpipes coming out of their backside. Go0gle image search: "flying aphids vs. fungus gnats" for some image comparisons, too.

They can be very difficult to eradicate - but it can be done. The flowerers you'll have to ride out. If it were me. I'd do a no-pest strip, keep doing dunks, etc. Consider sprinkling diatomacious earth around the base of the plant. Safe to people and pets, deadly to bugs. Gosh, predator bugs would be great way to go too. At all costs keep them off your veggers if you can, and don't start flowering again til you get them wiped out IMO.

Sorry brother, it sucks - I've been there. Good news: If my gimpy ass can beat them, so can you. Once the flowerers are harvested, go nuclear with a bomb or something if needed. Make a habit of keeping your grow room like a clean room (if you don't already). Zero dead leaves laying around, zero spilled dirt or organic material. Theres a post in my blog on pest control and prevention when you get a minute (if you haven't) there may be a couple other thoughts to consider. :goodluck:
 
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thanks X,they are already in the veggers that pick is from the veg room.the funny thing is I dont see anything on the roots of the hydro girls. theres a few flyers around the ones in promix,I think thats where they came from,the promix.after next round Im not using soil anymore,I have a couple of waterfarms I can test new strains with.
 
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jon705 said:
ok ive been trying to figure out if these are fungus gnats or winged root aphids.X was wise enough to point out that I might have root aphids instead of gnats.I managed to get an ok pic of one of them what do you guys think?
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and in other news it looks like the girls in soil in the veg room have thripes, from what ive been reading about them they are not a big deal and are easy to get rid of, I just want to make sure thats what these things are, they look like thripes to me.
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this pic isnt the greatest but it looks like a thripe right?
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Bro that is a fungus gnat, IDK about the thrips?
 
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to be honest idk what it is bro, If I go by what this guy is saying it a root aphid because of the double wings,Fungas Gnat or Evil Root Aphid - YouTube
from what ive been reading the only time you will see flying root aphids is if there is a major infestation and i cant find one anywhere.Im going to keep looking this morning, I mean im going to take all the soil plants out of the pots to inspect the roots and im going to try to get a good look at all the roots in the flower room.im going to double the amount of dunks in the resses.if I find any in the soil plants im chucking them, I ll take a clone or two and treat them after they root with safer soap or something.theres nothing I can really do until this round is done for the girls in flower. once they're done I ll throw everything known to man in those rooms. Im definetly done with soil. waterfarms for testing from now on lol
 
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yea im still leaning towards gnats at this point but im going to inspect them closely now, if I dont find an infestation in one or more of the plants they're gnats right? everything ive read said the same thing.aphids dont grow wings until the plant they are in cant sustain the colony so they grow wings and search for more healthy roots. fingers crossed.
 
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jon705 said:
yea im still leaning towards gnats at this point but im going to inspect them closely now, if I dont find an infestation in one or more of the plants they're gnats right? everything ive read said the same thing.aphids dont grow wings until the plant they are in cant sustain the colony so they grow wings and search for more healthy roots. fingers crossed.
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Jon, in my limitied experience, I get them hatching in batches, emerging from the soil when I water. Jon, I've got em, I control em, I have bags of soil in my house, house plants, I live in a rural area with tons of organic material decomposing everywhere LOL, I see em here and there sometimes....you know, now and again. My plants are healthy though, IDK....the war continues......My roots are very white at transplanting?
 
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ok so I did an ispection of every plant in soil, none of the ones in the veg room have anything wrong with the roots, one chernobyl in the flower room had a few white crawlers in the soil but definetly not an infestation. I checked the roots on several of the girls in the system as best I could and I shook the shit out of the pots and the odd flyer came out so ive doubled the dunks maybe even more than doubled them,hopefully this doesnt hurt the plants. I will keep watering the girls in soil from the resses so hopefully the dunks keep them to a minimum and I ll deal with this when they are done.I usually keep the rooms spotless but this round I forgot a bag of leaves in the flower room for a week or so, this might of started this whole thing.either way by the time im done unleashing bombs and bleach in those rooms they will be gone....I hope lol...from now on the rooms will be clean enough to operate in. In happier news it looks like the overdrive is doing its job the girls have put on some weight in the last couple of days:)
 
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They were meant for this journal, I keep bumping into you all over the place (where I bump into you, not you 'all over the place' although I wouldn't blame you) I get discombobulated! Very impressive grow, left me virtually speechless for more than a few pages! :thumb:

ATB with your visitors:high-five:
 
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Jon, do you yourself a favor and CHECK about praying mantis brotha .
With a such big garden you have, the incect will have plenty of space and it wil "clean" your garden, in one two days time !!!

Nothing will approach your garden again, ever !!!
(I hope it's not root aphids , of course)

Good luck bro, I'm sure you will kick the butt on them, one way or another ...
 
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I feel like Captain Buzzkill - Doh! It sounds like you have a great plan, there's only so much you can do with the flowering plants this late in the game, but it doesn't look like they'll keep you from harvesting some really nice plants. I hear you on soil, it's the biggest reason I've steered clear of it so far (I hate bugs!!). Keep rockin' a great grow, brother, they aren't winning this fight - you are. :thumb:
 
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The dunks won't hurt your plants, though I'm not sure whether doubling up will help as much as refreshing them/it. They are meant to cover large areas/ponds. Can't hurt though. They do have a relatively short effective period, so new dunks now and then are better than an old one.
 
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Billy420 said:
Check here , when you got time :
PRAYING MANTIS FACT SHEET & Release Instructions

Praying Mantis Egg Cases
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thanks Billy this a cool idea but I dont think my wife would like a couple hundred hungry praying matis running around my house lol...but i think I ll order some when they're back in stock for my outdoor garden this year.I think im going to build a dome style greenhouse simillar to the garden of weeden vids:)
 
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Xlr8 said:
I feel like Captain Buzzkill - Doh! It sounds like you have a great plan, there's only so much you can do with the flowering plants this late in the game, but it doesn't look like they'll keep you from harvesting some really nice plants. I hear you on soil, it's the biggest reason I've steered clear of it so far (I hate bugs!!). Keep rockin' a great grow, brother, they aren't winning this fight - you are. :thumb:
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no buzz kil bro, I just cant see how they're aphids, theres no huge colony that I can find so they would'nt be flying yet right? either way whatever they are they dont stand a chance once this round is over.:)
 
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