My First Grow Journal-Holy Grail Kush- Purple Kush 6x12 Scrog 4 x 600W LEDs On Movers

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Evo-Rat-93 said:
I start my count on flower when plants show sex. Mainly because strains will show at different times. Same strains will show at different times depending on seed or clone. Just my experience.:thumb:
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Agreed...they aren't "flowering" just because we flipped the light...Flipping the light only activates the hormone.
 
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Curso said:
Agreed...they aren't "flowering" just because we flipped the light...Flipping the light only activates the hormone.
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so activating the hormones is the begining of flower unless you think of it like lighting a fuse on a bomb. but even thats the start of an exsplosion:)
 
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fish cake said:
so activating the hormones is the begining of flower unless you think of it like lighting a fuse on a bomb. but even thats the start of an exsplosion:)
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Yep, subtracting the transition would make flowering times seem shorter. Transition is a sub-period of flowering in my brain. Both my brain cells agree, and just want to get loaded all the time!:Love:
 
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Curso said:
Agreed...they aren't "flowering" just because we flipped the light...Flipping the light only activates the hormone.
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When we flip the switch don't we say we are flowering our plant's, we don't say we're tranistioning our plants, or preflowering them. Just a thought, it would be nice though if everyone did it the same way....at least!
 
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mcloadie said:
Yep, subtracting the transition would make flowering times seem shorter. Transition is a sub-period of flowering in my brain. Both my brain cells agree, and just want to get loaded all the time!:Love:
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wow I think I remember having 2 brain cells but now I have to borrow OMM's
wait what was the question?
 
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Curso said:
All in the eye of the beholder I guess, I don't really count day's anyways, I watch flowers they tell ya when they're done.
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yeah what you said:)
 
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mcloadie said:
There are so many variables, all can be manipulated, my last crop finished in 86 days, seed to weed. What I want to know is how they figure those kinda yields. I've never seen any purchased seed produce near what they say, and my plants grow to maturity and are healthy as hell. I grew with components that GUARANTEE the highest yield and potency that a plant can potentially produce. I know we say It's just hype, but what sucker would buy hype the second time? I may be a rookie, but this aint my first rodeo.
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I guess what they are saying is if you have a perfect grow indoor or out, the plants have the potential to produce so much per meter squared. Im not really sure what they mean by meter squared though. a meter squared in my room is alot different than a meter squared in your room because of our different training styles. to be honest I dont pay much attention to what the breeders says about yield most trains have the potential to have desent yields as long as the person growing them figures out what that strain likes, more nute, less nutes, higher temps, lower temps, every strain is slightly different. This is why im sticking with one strain in the big system from now on so I can figure out exactly what it likes and push it to the max. I find having more than one strain in my system isnt the best idea unless I can find 2 strains that like the exact same things which is unlikely.
 
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mcloadie said:
There are so many variables, all can be manipulated, my last crop finished in 86 days, seed to weed. What I want to know is how they figure those kinda yields. I've never seen any purchased seed produce near what they say, and my plants grow to maturity and are healthy as hell. I grew with components that GUARANTEE the highest yield and potency that a plant can potentially produce. I know we say It's just hype, but what sucker would buy hype the second time? I may be a rookie, but this aint my first rodeo.
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IMO they can get there results in a lab. A COMPUTER CONTROLED, "perfect environment" , lots of lab techs and can grow acers of the same genes.
IMAGINE:
I believe if I had the space and UNLIMITED funding ,I could germ 1000 seeds and maybe 10 would end up "perfect"
From reading (more than forum sits) there description can be filled with 2+ months veg
1 of these days I would like to buy a pack of 10 fem seeds .
5 I would 1 month veg and 5 I would 2 months in veg
when a computer is controling the grow within set peramiters, perfection is easy,( over under nute is detected and corrected within seconds )
give me thoes same peramiters to work within and I would not be able to replicate , be cause I am human any nute problems don"t get detected for at least a day then corrected and another day and more stress witch delays and reduces the harvest.
THIS is just my 2 bowls worth:peace:
 
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fish cake said:
yeah what you said:)
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that makes perfect sense for organic or high brix growers Curso, but for hydro or cocco growers using sinthetic nutes there is a schedule to follow, I still wont start the final flush until I see some amber trychs but theres 3 different stages of nutes during flower early bloom mid bloom and late bloom, what I was trying to say earlier is if you make the changes to early it will have an affect on your final product. I also use overdrive which is suposed to be introduced at the beggining of the 6th week of flower, imo if I counted flower right from the flip I would be introducing it 7-10 to early. It all boils down to personal preference I guess and what side of the debate you are on. Graham said he saw a poll where 23% of growers do it my way but if If you change the wording a bit in your search quite a few polls will come up saying that 70-80% of growers do it my way. so whatever way works best for you is the right way i guess lol
 
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WizHigh said:
Hey jon just got email back from the LED company, they said they use Epistar I guess thats the diodes and they only can make them 90 or 120 degree angle. Is that good or no? The color and spectrum are all good though.
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Im going to look into them for you Wiz but I have no experience with other led's bro..are there any customer reviews on these lights? independant customer reviews?
 
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jon705 said:
that makes perfect sense for organic or high brix growers Curso, but for hydro or cocco growers using sinthetic nutes there is a schedule to follow, I still wont start the final flush until I see some amber trychs but theres 3 different stages of nutes during flower early bloom mid bloom and late bloom, what I was trying to say earlier is if you make the changes to early it will have an affect on your final product. I also use overdrive which is suposed to be introduced at the beggining of the 6th week of flower, imo if I counted flower right from the flip I would be introducing it 7-10 to early. It all boils down to personal preference I guess and what side of the debate you are on. Graham said he saw a poll where 23% of growers do it my way but if If you change the wording a bit in your search quite a few polls will come up saying that 70-80% of growers do it my way. so whatever way works best for you is the right way i guess lol
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Hell ya boys, Let's get busy and make some buds.....YEE HAW!!! I know that I learned alotta gooood info listenin to all these ideas, and I will use it ALL at some point! Thanks fellers!! Imagine if the world was able to get head out of butt and communicate like we do.....wow!
 
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jon705 said:
Im going to look into them for you Wiz but I have no experience with other led's bro..are there any customer reviews on these lights? independant customer reviews?
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I havent seen any so far but I know there the same manufacture that OMM used in his grows. Thanks for helping me out on these lights :thumb:
 
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jon705 said:
lmao McLoadie...well said bro but I doubt it will ever happen, opinions are like assholes everybody has one, it doesnt matter what the subject is. thats why I like to figure out what works for me and stick too it:)
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I'm thankful we don't all grow the same way, I got samples from growers in four states, and it's a lovely thing tryin these exotic delicasies! I will tell u one thing, you boys are doin tremendous things with this weed.....yaya!!!!!
 
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WizHigh said:
Hey jon just got email back from the LED company, they said they use Epistar I guess thats the diodes and they only can make them 90 or 120 degree angle. Is that good or no? The color and spectrum are all good though.
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from what im reading epistar are good diodes just make sure thet really are epistar bro heres a post from another forum I found.
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Epistar are a reputable Taiwanese manufacturer. However the thing you have to know in the LED market place is there are a shitload of cowboys out there. (mainly by way of China) The Epistar advertised on ebay, probably isnt a real Epistar. LED Light manufacters claiming they have Cree, Bridgelux, Osram, Lumiled, Semiled, Epiled, Epistar, etc for too good to be true prices smells alot like....FAKE! "

Just make sure its a good reputable company Wiz.
 
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jon705 said:
from what im reading epistar are good diodes just make sure thet really are epistar bro heres a post from another forum I found.
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Epistar are a reputable Taiwanese manufacturer. However the thing you have to know in the LED market place is there are a shitload of cowboys out there. (mainly by way of China) The Epistar advertised on ebay, probably isnt a real Epistar. LED Light manufacters claiming they have Cree, Bridgelux, Osram, Lumiled, Semiled, Epiled, Epistar, etc for too good to be true prices smells alot like....FAKE! "

Just make sure its a good reputable company Wiz.
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This custom design thing sounds like your kinda thing jon, have you found any discrepencies that could be fixed with the kind of modifications they offer?
 
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umm..im not really sure what your asking me bro, this is only my second round with led's im deffinetly no expert with them I just read as much as I can find and make my own assumptions from what people that know what they are talking about say. as for the angles of the diodes I think the most common one is 90 degrees, 120 degrees would give you more coverage but would affect penetration imo
 
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jon705 said:
umm..im not really sure what your asking me bro, this is only my second round with led's im deffinetly no expert with them I just read as much as I can find and make my own assumptions from what people that know what they are talking about say. as for the angles of the diodes I think the most common one is 90 degrees, 120 degrees would give you more coverage but would affect penetration imo
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I know you're just really gettin growin with em, I was just wondering if you had noticed anything that could be improved if you had the option of altering the design, it sounds like that's what this co. is offering. I know you're paying close attention to these lights. Or, could you copy these $ lights cheaper or better by using this custom option. Just wonderin.
 
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