sure got quiet
LMAO, we either in our garden rooms or layed out on the couch from being so high. I swear a.m. and late nights are the rush hrs for 420 lol
My Blue Moon
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LMAO, we either in our garden rooms or layed out on the couch from being so high. I swear a.m. and late nights are the rush hrs for 420 lol
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Maybe, I keep looking out my window every now and again to make sure its still intact outside. Its been a little too quiet for my taste.
Ive been reading up on all types of stuff for growing and new things to add to my grow. Youtube serves best for this. And that guy Steve on here I been on his journal. He got some good stuff
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oh yeah Steve was or is a master, a few others sinse I have been hear have gone. some I know what happened and some that just whent PFFF...
well if something does happen, I got my getaway bike. ahahhahahaha try and catch me now you evil zombie dudes hahaha
well if something does happen, I got my getaway bike. ahahhahahaha try and catch me now you evil zombie dudes hahaha
Beauty!!! Blue Moon does not make huge colas but you are doing great! A LITTLE grow big will cure a nitrogen problem!
Looks awesome!!!
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wow thank you buck, I kinda figured they wouldnt be logs. so all i can do is fatten them up
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ok here are some pics. I have to say that the new upload thingSUCKS
now for fluffy Jr
as you can see I have some kind of nitrogen problem and I dont think its as bad as it may look.
thank you for the Rep Buck
never did much care about them but now I broke a 1000 thats cool as hellHey fishcake
I'm on my forth grow and this old dog is still learning ............I do my research but really appreciate tips from others. You have given my some good info brother
The scrog method sure increases the yield by looking at yours .......Although I am not set up for that for this grow I followed your lead as well as many others ........ I've been defoliating like a mad man and I see what you mean ....
I get done defoliating and its time to start over ....Even though I am growing straight up in air pots after defoliating there is soo much more light to the center and edges of my ladies. I started defoliating a week ago in the 3rd week of flower I'll let you know how it goes.
I agree with others in here too!! Nice Bike !!
I'm on my forth grow and this old dog is still learning ............I do my research but really appreciate tips from others. You have given my some good info brother
The scrog method sure increases the yield by looking at yours .......Although I am not set up for that for this grow I followed your lead as well as many others ........ I've been defoliating like a mad man and I see what you mean ....I get done defoliating and its time to start over ....Even though I am growing straight up in air pots after defoliating there is soo much more light to the center and edges of my ladies. I started defoliating a week ago in the 3rd week of flower I'll let you know how it goes.
I agree with others in here too!! Nice Bike !!
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thank you Clay, dont know if doin as I do is right or not but its worked for me this is my ...fourth grow to maybe #5 cant remember. just been playing with the bong(what he say?)
this is my ...fourth grow to maybe #5 cant remember. just been playing with the bong(what he say?)We all get bits of info here and there ..............I've been reading bassman59 ........journal on defoliation lot of good stuff
Xlr8 was saying in there to be careful because the fan leaves also protect the plant fron nute overdose ???? Makes sense to me
Lots of great people here and lots of great info .....................
Its like Pizza ..........Its all good some better than others
Xlr8 was saying in there to be careful because the fan leaves also protect the plant fron nute overdose ???? Makes sense to me
Lots of great people here and lots of great info .....................
Its like Pizza ..........Its all good some better than others
Yep Clay, Xlr8 Is Spot On In His Information About Fan Leafs Acting As Filters!!! They Also Help Convert Energy, Either Light Or Nutrients, As They Are Like Solar Receptors(THEY ARE SOLAR RECEPTORS,Filters,Extra Water And Coolers As Well For Transpiration OF WATER), The Only Time A Leaf Should Be Removed, Is When Said Leaf is Ready To Die(YELLOWING, WITHERING, GONE LIMP, ETC), Then And Only Then, Should They Be Removed, PERIOD. But People Will Believe What They Want, And Like I Say To Them, If It Works Well Enough For you, Then Do Not Change!!!
But Only A Fool Is Unwilling To Change When They Are Shown A Better Way Of Doing Something, Either That, Or Because, It Has In Their Mind Always Worked For Them In Their Reality, They Will Argue Till They Are Blue In The Face, Because Their Perception Of Events(RIGHT OR WRONG), Is Their Reality!!!
And What One Perceives As Their Perceived Reality Is Next To Impossible To Change, Even With Reams Of Scientific Data To Show, People remain Stubborn!!!
The Only Way To Get people Like this To Change Their Minds, Is To Show, And Prove to them A Different Reality. And Even Then, It Will Not Always Work, These Are the People that should Be classified As Fools
!!! And NO, I Am Not Calling Anyone A Fool, Unless They Have Been Shown, And Proven A Better Wat Of Doing Something, And They Keep Doing The Same Thing Over And Over, Expecting Better Results!!! Ignorance Can Be Fixed, Self Righteousness And Stupidity Cannot. That Is Another Definition Of INSANE!!!
TAKE CARE ALL. SINCERELY, JAMESTHEGREEN.
But Only A Fool Is Unwilling To Change When They Are Shown A Better Way Of Doing Something, Either That, Or Because, It Has In Their Mind Always Worked For Them In Their Reality, They Will Argue Till They Are Blue In The Face, Because Their Perception Of Events(RIGHT OR WRONG), Is Their Reality!!! And What One Perceives As Their Perceived Reality Is Next To Impossible To Change, Even With Reams Of Scientific Data To Show, People remain Stubborn!!!The Only Way To Get people Like this To Change Their Minds, Is To Show, And Prove to them A Different Reality. And Even Then, It Will Not Always Work, These Are the People that should Be classified As Fools
!!! And NO, I Am Not Calling Anyone A Fool, Unless They Have Been Shown, And Proven A Better Wat Of Doing Something, And They Keep Doing The Same Thing Over And Over, Expecting Better Results!!! Ignorance Can Be Fixed, Self Righteousness And Stupidity Cannot. That Is Another Definition Of INSANE!!! TAKE CARE ALL. SINCERELY, JAMESTHEGREEN.
Lookin good fish!
Fluffy Jr. looks like she likes you're bicycle more than the light..
+reps bro
Fluffy Jr. looks like she likes you're bicycle more than the light..
+reps bro
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Yep Clay, Xlr8 Is Spot On In His Information About Fan Leafs Acting As Filters!!! They Also Help Convert Energy, Either Light Or Nutrients, As They Are Like Solar Receptors(THEY ARE SOLAR RECEPTORS,Filters,Extra Water And Coolers As Well For Transpiration OF WATER), The Only Time A Leaf Should Be Removed, Is When Said Leaf is Ready To Die(YELLOWING, WITHERING, GONE LIMP, ETC), Then And Only Then, Should They Be Removed, PERIOD. But People Will Believe What They Want, And Like I Say To Them, If It Works Well Enough For you, Then Do Not Change!!!
The Only Way To Get people Like this To Change Their Minds, Is To Show, And Prove to them A Different Reality. And Even Then, It Will Not Always Work, These Are the People that should Be classified As Fools
well said.
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Not really, there's a lot of unnecessary offensive references. It's one thing expressing your opinion, but it's another to spend more than half of your comment insulting others who simply like to stick with their own techniques. As a matter of fact, in a close experiment where plants which were defoliated were right next to plants that were not defoliated. The buds were much juicier on the defoliated plants even though the leaves that were trimmed were perfectly healthy. To each his own though; and I like all techniques. + it all depends on what type of grow you're doing to decide whether to defoliate or not.
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ISmokes nice opinion! It makes one think.
Sorry To Offend You iSmokes, But Like I Said, I Am Not Downing Anyone, Just Giving The Definition Of Insane. I Like To Stick To What I Know As Well,But If You Can Show Me A Better Way To Do Something, I'll Adjust My Thought Pattern, And Incorporate The New Information, Because It Is A Better Way To Do Something!!! And FYI, I Have Conducted The Very Same Experiment I Am Discussing, And The Un-Tampered With Plants Always Out Do The Ones That Were Damaged Prematurely Because We Took Off Healthy Fan Leaves For NO Apparent Reason, And Our Empirical Evidence Has Shown That The Un-Tampered Ones Always Out Produce The Ones That Get Picked On All The Time!!! Do You Think That God, Mother Nature, A Higher Power, Would Have Put The Fan Leafs There, If There Was Not A Purpose For Them??? I Mean A Fan Leaf Is Not Like An Appendix, No Apparent Reason For being There!!! But If I Offended You iSmokes, I Am Truly Sorry, It Was ot My Intent To Insult Anyone, Especially YOU!!!
So Please Forgive Me!!!
I Was Just Trying To Use An Example On Peoples Behaviors, On How Each Of Us Perceives Things Differently, Thereby Our Perception(RIGHT OR WRONG), Is Our Reality, And Like I Said Before, If It Works Well Enough For You, Who Cares What Any One Else Thinks, RIGHT!!! Do You Have The Information On What/Where This Experiment Took Place, And By Who, I Ask, Because I Would Like to Study It, All I Know, Is That The Experiment We conducted, Both Plants Were Of The Same Strain, Had Equal Light, The Same Soil,Nutrients,Care And Equal Water, As A Matter Of Fact, We Conducted This Experiment On Several Different Occasions Of My 20 years Of growing, And It Always Exhibited The Same Results!!!:
: I Am Not Trying To Start A Fight, I Am Just Telling you What We Found Out. I Believe Jorge Cerevantes Conducted The Same Experiment, With The Same Results. We Noticed That At first, It Appears That The Plant That Had It's Leaves Removed Looked Larger, But We Realized That was because The Leaves that Were Once there, Now Were Not, So That Made The Bud SEEM Larger, Just Due To The Fact Your Eye Was Not Impeded By Having To Look At The Fan Leaf. In The End, Both Plants Were As Resiny As Each Other, But The Un Tampered With Plant Had A Yield That Was Roughly 20% More At Least Than The Plant That Had Been Defoliated Of It's Fan Leaves. So I Am Not Trying To Insult Anyone iSmokes, And I Too Enjoy All The Myriad Ways People Grow, It Is What Makes This So Much Fun To Do. We ALL Have Our Own Perceived Reality, Neither Right Nor Wrong, If It Works For You, So Once Again, If I Offended You, I Am Sorry, Please Forgive Me!!!
If You Can Lead Me To This Study, I Would Be Most Appreciative, THANK YOU
SINCERELY, JAMESTHEGREEN.
But If I Offended You iSmokes, I Am Truly Sorry, It Was ot My Intent To Insult Anyone, Especially YOU!!! So Please Forgive Me!!!I Was Just Trying To Use An Example On Peoples Behaviors, On How Each Of Us Perceives Things Differently, Thereby Our Perception(RIGHT OR WRONG), Is Our Reality, And Like I Said Before, If It Works Well Enough For You, Who Cares What Any One Else Thinks, RIGHT!!!
Do You Have The Information On What/Where This Experiment Took Place, And By Who, I Ask, Because I Would Like to Study It, All I Know, Is That The Experiment We conducted, Both Plants Were Of The Same Strain, Had Equal Light, The Same Soil,Nutrients,Care And Equal Water, As A Matter Of Fact, We Conducted This Experiment On Several Different Occasions Of My 20 years Of growing, And It Always Exhibited The Same Results!!!:: I Am Not Trying To Start A Fight, I Am Just Telling you What We Found Out. I Believe Jorge Cerevantes Conducted The Same Experiment, With The Same Results. We Noticed That At first, It Appears That The Plant That Had It's Leaves Removed Looked Larger, But We Realized That was because The Leaves that Were Once there, Now Were Not, So That Made The Bud SEEM Larger, Just Due To The Fact Your Eye Was Not Impeded By Having To Look At The Fan Leaf. In The End, Both Plants Were As Resiny As Each Other, But The Un Tampered With Plant Had A Yield That Was Roughly 20% More At Least Than The Plant That Had Been Defoliated Of It's Fan Leaves. So I Am Not Trying To Insult Anyone iSmokes, And I Too Enjoy All The Myriad Ways People Grow, It Is What Makes This So Much Fun To Do. We ALL Have Our Own Perceived Reality, Neither Right Nor Wrong, If It Works For You, So Once Again, If I Offended You, I Am Sorry, Please Forgive Me!!!If You Can Lead Me To This Study, I Would Be Most Appreciative, THANK YOU
SINCERELY, JAMESTHEGREEN.
Sorry To Offend You iSmokes, But Like I Said, I Am Not Downing Anyone, Just Giving The Definition Of Insane. I Like To Stick To What I Know As Well,But If You Can Show Me A Better Way To Do Something, I'll Adjust My Thought Pattern, And Incorporate The New Information, Because It Is A Better Way To Do Something!!! And FYI, I Have Conducted The Very Same Experiment I Am Discussing, And The Un-Tampered With Plants Always Out Do The Ones That Were Damaged Prematurely Because We Took Off Healthy Fan Leaves For NO Apparent Reason, And Our Empirical Evidence Has Shown That The Un-Tampered Ones Always Out Produce The Ones That Get Picked On All The Time!!! Do You Think That God, Mother Nature, A Higher Power, Would Have Put The Fan Leafs There, If There Was Not A Purpose For Them??? I Mean A Fan Leaf Is Not Like An Appendix, No Apparent Reason For being There!!! But If I Offended You iSmokes, I Am Truly Sorry, It Was not My Intent To Insult Anyone, Especially YOU!!! So Please Forgive Me!!!
I Was Just Trying To Use An Example On Peoples Behaviors, On How Each Of Us Perceives Things Differently, Thereby Our Perception(RIGHT OR WRONG), Is Our Reality, And Like I Said Before, If It Works Well Enough For You, Who Cares What Any One Else Thinks, RIGHT!!! Do You Have The Information On What/Where This Experiment Took Place, And By Who, I Ask, Because I Would Like to Study It, All I Know, Is That The Experiment We conducted, Both Plants Were Of The Same Strain, Had Equal Light, The Same Soil,Nutrients,Care And Equal Water, As A Matter Of Fact, We Conducted This Experiment On Several Different Occasions Of My 20 years Of growing, And It Always Exhibited The Same Results!!!:: I Am Not Trying To Start A Fight, I Am Just Telling you What We Found Out. I Believe Jorge Cerevantes Conducted The Same Experiment, With The Same Results. We Noticed That At first, It Appears That The Plant That Had It's Leaves Removed Looked Larger, But We Realized That was because The Leaves that Were Once there, Now Were Not, So That Made The Bud SEEM Larger, Just Due To The Fact Your Eye Was Not Impeded By Having To Look At The Fan Leaf. In The End, Both Plants Were As Resiny As Each Other, But The Un Tampered With Plant Had A Yield That Was Roughly 20% More At Least Than The Plant That Had Been Defoliated Of It's Fan Leaves. So I Am Not Trying To Insult Anyone iSmokes, And I Too Enjoy All The Myriad Ways People Grow, It Is What Makes This So Much Fun To Do. We ALL Have Our Own Perceived Reality, Neither Right Nor Wrong, If It Works For You, So Once Again, If I Offended You, I Am Sorry, Please Forgive Me!!!
If You Can Lead Me To This Study, I Would Be Most Appreciative, THANK YOU SINCERELY, JAMESTHEGREEN.
But If I Offended You iSmokes, I Am Truly Sorry, It Was not My Intent To Insult Anyone, Especially YOU!!! So Please Forgive Me!!!I Was Just Trying To Use An Example On Peoples Behaviors, On How Each Of Us Perceives Things Differently, Thereby Our Perception(RIGHT OR WRONG), Is Our Reality, And Like I Said Before, If It Works Well Enough For You, Who Cares What Any One Else Thinks, RIGHT!!!
Do You Have The Information On What/Where This Experiment Took Place, And By Who, I Ask, Because I Would Like to Study It, All I Know, Is That The Experiment We conducted, Both Plants Were Of The Same Strain, Had Equal Light, The Same Soil,Nutrients,Care And Equal Water, As A Matter Of Fact, We Conducted This Experiment On Several Different Occasions Of My 20 years Of growing, And It Always Exhibited The Same Results!!!:: I Am Not Trying To Start A Fight, I Am Just Telling you What We Found Out. I Believe Jorge Cerevantes Conducted The Same Experiment, With The Same Results. We Noticed That At first, It Appears That The Plant That Had It's Leaves Removed Looked Larger, But We Realized That was because The Leaves that Were Once there, Now Were Not, So That Made The Bud SEEM Larger, Just Due To The Fact Your Eye Was Not Impeded By Having To Look At The Fan Leaf. In The End, Both Plants Were As Resiny As Each Other, But The Un Tampered With Plant Had A Yield That Was Roughly 20% More At Least Than The Plant That Had Been Defoliated Of It's Fan Leaves. So I Am Not Trying To Insult Anyone iSmokes, And I Too Enjoy All The Myriad Ways People Grow, It Is What Makes This So Much Fun To Do. We ALL Have Our Own Perceived Reality, Neither Right Nor Wrong, If It Works For You, So Once Again, If I Offended You, I Am Sorry, Please Forgive Me!!!If You Can Lead Me To This Study, I Would Be Most Appreciative, THANK YOU
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I guess I am somewhere in the middle of this disscusion as I do agree with JTG that taking leaves off can be self defeating if you are growing in the glorious California sun and my mentor of scrog tSemp also said do not take leaves.
more when I get back from taking the boy to school
more when I get back from taking the boy to school
thank you for the Rep Buck
I hope I am the one that put you over!
Very nice Fish. Girls are looking really good.