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Mrs. Natural Feminized
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Re: mrs.natural feminized
Isnt this some kind of deficiency, like Mg or P?
Both shouldnt be tolerated at any time except for late flowering, where it's more natural behavior.
Is the room well ventilated? Normally molt shouldnt get much chance if so, except for PM maybe.
If it's not molt, maybe check nutrients dosage and check ventilation, they should receive enough fresh air and it helps dropping humidity when to high.
Taking some pictures under CFL or daylight would maybe help people spotting what it is.
Isnt this some kind of deficiency, like Mg or P?
Both shouldnt be tolerated at any time except for late flowering, where it's more natural behavior.
Is the room well ventilated? Normally molt shouldnt get much chance if so, except for PM maybe.
If it's not molt, maybe check nutrients dosage and check ventilation, they should receive enough fresh air and it helps dropping humidity when to high.
Taking some pictures under CFL or daylight would maybe help people spotting what it is.
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okay here's an interesting thing, I have 2 other plants in the same room except they are in separate pots in dirt, they are fine. has to be something to do with my nutrient solution. I was using general hydroponics maxi grow powder when it started, I switched to aqua flakes a few days ago thinking maybe it was a deficiency. it hasn't cleared up at all.
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That is not nute burn my friend. Did you try adding some calcium I'm telling you they look exactly like mine did when I went through that deficiency.
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Add a calcium pill to a gallon of water and give it to her.
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i use calmag.
I just switched to aqua flakes, do you know if I need to use cal mag with the aqua flakes, in the directions for the aqua flakes it doesn't say what your water should be, in other words how many parts per 1,000,000. I started off with 150,
I just switched to aqua flakes, do you know if I need to use cal mag with the aqua flakes, in the directions for the aqua flakes it doesn't say what your water should be, in other words how many parts per 1,000,000. I started off with 150,
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That I'm not sure but I'm sure someone on here can be of help!
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Re: mrs.natural feminized
Soil has more buffer, so that can help a lot, and cause the difference in behaviour.
When you're not a bit experienced with both soil and hydro grow i think it's quite a challenge doing both at the same time.
If you are adding calcium and magnesium with calmag, i would just keep to their advised dosage.
I can recommend looking at plants entirely, check leaves induvidually with each plant, very important to do this from bottom to top. Plant should show most of her health in middle high leaves. Some lower leaves often when stretching fast or just growing wide will often be used for that grow spurt, some genetics you can keep up, some you cant.
After having the plants general health image in your mind and/or photo ( which helps a lot ), start changing base nutrients, usually increasing. Then within a couple of days you'll notice change. If the plants appears more healthy, more green, thicker stems, branches, thicker veins, less intervenial chlorosis, and less leaves drying out, then you are on the right track.
If you'll notice it getting worse you'll know it was too much and you'll have to lower nutrients.
You can also start lowering nutrients instead of increasing, which probably when having defeciencies will show signs even earlier, more leaves drying out.
As long as you are in veg specially but also beginning flowering phase you can try out whatever your want, it's the middle flowering phase which is most important for yield and even screwing that up and adjusting 4 or 5 weeks before harvest you can compensate a lot still. It is weed!
Difficult to say without trying, they dont appear to have major deficiencies, as far as I can tell, the curling of the leaves can be caused by K and/or P, my guess is K. With too much P usually only the lower leaves curl a bit, but less with excess K. Those leaves rather bend down about 90 degrees more than they would curl.
Too much K gives curly leaves usually from top to bottom, I usually read this from the higher leaves, they tend to curl upwards often, but can also curl downwards.
One more very usually way of reading the curling and then only looking at leaf tip, nothing else, from what i've learned so far, N always curls sideways,horizontally, and K always curls vertically. Too much K also causes smaller leaves and more pointier leaves. Too less P can also cause smaller leaves, enough or even a bit too much P will give you giant leaves, thick and healthy veins, and a bit lighter color too it.
At last, a simple unbalance in NPK + Mg/Ca/S can cause it.
Just look at general health, they look green ( enough N and K ), leaf stems look green ( enough P ).
this might also help, it helped me a lot:
Marijuana Plant Abuse
Tip, try keeping 5 mobile (N P K Mg Zn ) and other immobile elements deficiencies separated. Makes it much easier. the mobile elements can be corrected very easily and fast. Some elements both mobile and immobile specified can different mobility speed.
One other tip, some plants tend to show excesses and deficiencies at the same time, those are the genetics you just cant keep up with, you'll have to increase nutrients still despite her showing excesses in higher leaves, the lower leaves and general plant's health is still diminishing if you dont up the
Soil has more buffer, so that can help a lot, and cause the difference in behaviour.
When you're not a bit experienced with both soil and hydro grow i think it's quite a challenge doing both at the same time.
If you are adding calcium and magnesium with calmag, i would just keep to their advised dosage.
I can recommend looking at plants entirely, check leaves induvidually with each plant, very important to do this from bottom to top. Plant should show most of her health in middle high leaves. Some lower leaves often when stretching fast or just growing wide will often be used for that grow spurt, some genetics you can keep up, some you cant.
After having the plants general health image in your mind and/or photo ( which helps a lot ), start changing base nutrients, usually increasing. Then within a couple of days you'll notice change. If the plants appears more healthy, more green, thicker stems, branches, thicker veins, less intervenial chlorosis, and less leaves drying out, then you are on the right track.
If you'll notice it getting worse you'll know it was too much and you'll have to lower nutrients.
You can also start lowering nutrients instead of increasing, which probably when having defeciencies will show signs even earlier, more leaves drying out.
As long as you are in veg specially but also beginning flowering phase you can try out whatever your want, it's the middle flowering phase which is most important for yield and even screwing that up and adjusting 4 or 5 weeks before harvest you can compensate a lot still. It is weed!
Difficult to say without trying, they dont appear to have major deficiencies, as far as I can tell, the curling of the leaves can be caused by K and/or P, my guess is K. With too much P usually only the lower leaves curl a bit, but less with excess K. Those leaves rather bend down about 90 degrees more than they would curl.
Too much K gives curly leaves usually from top to bottom, I usually read this from the higher leaves, they tend to curl upwards often, but can also curl downwards.
One more very usually way of reading the curling and then only looking at leaf tip, nothing else, from what i've learned so far, N always curls sideways,horizontally, and K always curls vertically. Too much K also causes smaller leaves and more pointier leaves. Too less P can also cause smaller leaves, enough or even a bit too much P will give you giant leaves, thick and healthy veins, and a bit lighter color too it.
At last, a simple unbalance in NPK + Mg/Ca/S can cause it.
Just look at general health, they look green ( enough N and K ), leaf stems look green ( enough P ).
this might also help, it helped me a lot:
Marijuana Plant Abuse
Tip, try keeping 5 mobile (N P K Mg Zn ) and other immobile elements deficiencies separated. Makes it much easier. the mobile elements can be corrected very easily and fast. Some elements both mobile and immobile specified can different mobility speed.
One other tip, some plants tend to show excesses and deficiencies at the same time, those are the genetics you just cant keep up with, you'll have to increase nutrients still despite her showing excesses in higher leaves, the lower leaves and general plant's health is still diminishing if you dont up the
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I checked out the marijuana plant abuse page, now that is a collection of useful information. if you can't find what you need there you're in trouble
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mjjohn said:
This is not unusual :0
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I found a picture on the plant abuse site that looked just like mine. nitrogen toxicity.
it would make sense because I was using general hydroponics maxi grow dry powder, real high on the n. right now they are flushing out in some flora clean. f that they will be going to aqua flakes part a and b. thanks for the link to that plant abuse site, I will definitely share that 1.
it would make sense because I was using general hydroponics maxi grow dry powder, real high on the n. right now they are flushing out in some flora clean. f that they will be going to aqua flakes part a and b. thanks for the link to that plant abuse site, I will definitely share that 1.
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