mine have slightly shorter nodes since i start and veg them under a mix of 3000k and 3500k.. there's less blue in the mix even though white light. it compacts the nodes but you lose a little development. probably extends veg a wk or so to.
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mine have slightly shorter nodes since i start and veg them under a mix of 3000k and 3500k.. there's less blue in the mix even though white light. it compacts the nodes but you lose a little development. probably extends veg a wk or so to.
Yep, I've had perfectly good grows with what I call too tall for me plants. I just feel like I won't kill them as easy being shorter and thicker.
Sounds like good use of light bluter!
it was a compromise at the time. now i'd probably build dedicated veg and flower rigs with a bit more spread in the kelvin between them. i wasn't sure what the rigs would have to do at the time.
plus i sold rigs, and most folk were interested in a flower bias. i added the burple 5050's you see on my veg rigs to get a little more blue at them in the am / pm. it's not a lot but it does serve a purpose.
i'm not selling anything anymore. i do still have stuff in support though.
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Hey everybody!
I've been preparing my feed schedule for the new girls using the @Blue Planet Nutrients that were provided to me. This is a whole new experience for me since most of you know I've been with one base product for some time. My plan is to stick with the recipe I've been comfortable with.
These plans could change depending on how the girls look and respond to their diet. The image below shows a comparison of the two feed schedules. One thing to note is I won't be going by Week 1, 2, 3, etc. Instead I'll call it by the stage of growth. Early veg, mid veg, late veg, etc. The first feeding is simply called... first feeding.
I've been preparing my feed schedule for the new girls using the @Blue Planet Nutrients that were provided to me. This is a whole new experience for me since most of you know I've been with one base product for some time. My plan is to stick with the recipe I've been comfortable with.
These plans could change depending on how the girls look and respond to their diet. The image below shows a comparison of the two feed schedules. One thing to note is I won't be going by Week 1, 2, 3, etc. Instead I'll call it by the stage of growth. Early veg, mid veg, late veg, etc. The first feeding is simply called... first feeding.
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Sorry about your germination/burn issues MrS. Well, not really sorry because I know you do these things on purpose so your audience feels like you could be one of us rather than the star you are. I think it worked based on the outpouring of sympathy you got.
Also, how far off is the "Actual" pie chart from what you would be accomplishing with your old nute line? To wit, are you finding yourself able to get close using the Part A and B mixes, along with the Si?
Also, how far off is the "Actual" pie chart from what you would be accomplishing with your old nute line? To wit, are you finding yourself able to get close using the Part A and B mixes, along with the Si?
Farside did a good test of phone apps vs. lux meters here!
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I am interest in your feed ppm's; I myself tend to caution with lower ppm's.
When I say lower I mean around 600-650 on the high side.
What's your opinion on ppm levels?
Tok..
I am interest in your feed ppm's; I myself tend to caution with lower ppm's.
When I say lower I mean around 600-650 on the high side.
What's your opinion on ppm levels?
Tok..
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Oh that would be a great pie chart for you to see. Wanna see it?
Since I grow in soil I don't worry about the nute PPM. In fact I don't think I've ever measured that. I can't tell you the last time I pH'd my nutes either.
I try and achieve PPM targets for various elements, namely those you seen in the pie chart. Whatever the PPM works out to be is what it is, if that makes sense.
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Is that not what that chart is, or did you mean a chart that compares the two methods of feeding (old vs new)?
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I'm not sure exactly if I understand, but I think I do.
The first piece of pie was the BPN recommended amount. The second slice is me tinkering with the BPN amounts to suit what I would normally feed at this stage(2g). The 2g amount never changed. It's the same recipe I use.
My old line I would have to add
The chart below would show my old nute line using the same recipe. It's relatively close. A little less N and Mg, but a tad more P.
Gotcha, thanks! Hard to A/B half a page away from each other, but if you say "It's relatively close. A little less N and Mg, but a tad more P" then I believe you!
Just so I have this straight, you are mixing your two parts + Si to come close to your v1 + supplements + Si, and that was set up to be targeting v2 + Si? Or was v2 + Si not the goal in recent days?
Type of N notwithstanding of course!
Just so I have this straight, you are mixing your two parts + Si to come close to your v1 + supplements + Si, and that was set up to be targeting v2 + Si? Or was v2 + Si not the goal in recent days?
Type of N notwithstanding of course!
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Yes and no. V2 was always the base I work around. I've learned that those ratios were never perfect. I shouldn't say learned that, I think we all knew that a while ago, and if I recall I made a long post on it. What I did learn is how to adjust my nutrients to keep in line with the max amount of N I want to give the plant at various stages. The old line was good for using N as an indicator for feeding, so I know those values are good to rely on.
I'm now able to control how much P, K, Ca, and Mg to make sure those ratios stay correct. As long as they do and you don't exceed around 225 PPM of K, your grow will always be successful as far as not getting deficiencies from nute lockout.
What I don't know is what to expect. Numbers are numbers right? So there should be no difference in how the plants respond to different nutes.
Sorry to keep peppering you with questions, but I can't be the only one wondering these things...
Any chance you can dig that up?
And the Part A + B give you enough flexibility to accomplish that? Some nute lines offer 7 different bottles to enable growers to fine tune like that.
You have a number in mind for each stage? Or are you still using the lowers as a gauge like the rest of us still using v2?
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I can. I'll find it.
It appears to, yes. With the exception of the Si, plus I don't need to add the calmag. Dropped two products from my arsenal.
As long as I achieve the N PPM then there's no need for me to look. It's when I jump to the next stage. Wait too long, or miss a watering and the plants don't like it. There's more to it than that with the old line though. I keep harping on ratios. Since most growers don't have the flexibility to modify their nute line they are stuck with what's in the bag.
Then some figure well it's missing Ca, better add some calmag. Or it has a K def, better up the feed amount. The old line is good on it's own up until 5g. After that it's hit and miss on plants. A little more forgiving in soil.
I have more questions on this topic but I will sit back and watch you work the magic...for now 
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The first one wasn't that long. It talked about the imperfect NPK balance.
The Mega Crop Thread
I admit I am totally perplexed because everyone else seems to be getting great results with MegaCrop but whether I use less than is recommended or more I get the same yellow dying leaves shortly after flipping. I am using tap water and not adjusting pH and using Promix HP. I have two thoughts...
www.420magazine.com
This one talks about correct ratios, not specific to a product.
Thanks MrS! I moved my response to someplace it would be less intrusive.
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Three out of four... one more to go. Still not a helmet to be found. Gee, that has to be at least 16 15 now .
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Lovely!