If super THC is what you’re chasing, then you won’t find it back in the 80s.
Most potent strain in todays market?
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Diatomacious
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I know they're cheating somehow... cause what they say is high percentage ain't cuttin it, at least for me anyway. I'm a smoker not a drinker... smoked pot for 35 years now so I've seen em come and I've seen em go.
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I used to get high as shit in the 80's... today a mild buzz effect... don't tell me it's age cause I know better
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You nailed it on the head... but why not just continue to sell the good stuff instead of swapping it out with a hemp crossbreed? I mean who is responsible for all the good weed to suddenly drop off the map?
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I'm still willing to bet it's the gov't... I mean they always have to have their nose up your ass.
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Diatomacious
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Legalize it so you can control it... ie reduce potency. Sounds like some government shit.
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I think alot of it has to do with where you get your seeds and there genetic makeup. If I grow anything worth mentioning I will. I say GSC (girl scout cookies) is a usually a very potent strain even when grown at less than perfect conditions
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i've heard it is... last order included TH Seeds French Macaron which is a cross between girl scout cookies and snowdawg 2 or something like that... I'm growing out some MK Ultra and Barney's Farm Afghan Hashplant as well... a few from Sannies as well so I'll try em all and let everyone know what I think. Be back in a few months lol
Yeah me too. Not what I said though. What strains were you smoking in the 80s ?
Where I was in BC in the early 80s the best stuff available was mostly imported sativas- Thai and Jamaican. The locally grown dope was pretty crappy. Skunk became a big thing in early/mid 80s. After that North American indica strains began to dominate I liked the sativas way better, but they disappeared because it wasn’t profitable to grow them indoors.. So we just got indica.
None of it had nearly as much THC as what we have around now. But as Cannafish said, THC isn’t everything.
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I was smoking what the dealer had to sell #1 lol. I couldn't tell ya the strains from back then cause it was all from unknown sources. Just buds in a bag. Not all of it was magical... but the good stuff was a lot more prevalent back then.
I remember a friend bringing by a sack of poorly grown/trimmed/wtf is curing African import. Loved the effect. The potency and duration sucked - but I loved the effect. And I used to love a Thai strain I got from seedy bud back in the day. HATED its tendency to self-pollinate, but it was great smoke. I assume that neither of those would have tested above 15%, even had I been able to grow that African landrace out myself and produce 5x better bud than what I smoked.
It's about the package, not just one component of it.
I wish I had some Golden Tiger seeds. That's supposed to be pretty good. If you're looking to hunt for a jewel, head to the breeder's website and pick up a "breeder's pack" of that one. Those include multiple lines, so you can work with the strain and/or choose the one(s) that you like. One or more of them - or the "children" they are capable of producing - will probably do something for you, unless your idea of a good time is laying on a couch for three hours (IOW, not an indica, LMAO). The same breeder has a number of interesting landraces for sale, alone and crosses of same.
EDIT: (To WC:) You mentioned skunk appearing on the scene. I always thought its appeal was "Hey, we can grow this stuff outside and it'll actually finish before December!" Years later, everyone seemed to think it was something special for other reasons. IDK, different strokes and all that, I guess.
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Reminds me of the time a friend grew out some Big Bud seed I had ordered... he begged me to let him have them. Weed sucked ass until it was cured... after that it would turn your eyes red.
At that time I was living in Vancouver, was young, and my bubble was pretty small so I didn’t know anyone growing outdoors, or if I knew of anyone growing outdoors, it was just ditchweed. Like the OP -we just got what we got from the dealer.
The attraction to skunk in the beginning was mainly peer pressure - other people name dropping, and us thinking that we would be cool too, if only we smoked lots of skunk like the cool kids. Also the distinctive smell was new and cool.
Pretty soon though, skunk was all there was. Redhair skunk was like the generic dope around Vancouver in the later 80s.
Whenever we asked the dealer what it was we were buying they’d say ‘Redhair’ and we’d groan. It was like code for ‘I don’t actually know wtf it is so just shut up and buy it’.
In the 90s a lot of newfangled stronger indicas started appearing like Chemo, Hydro, and a bunch of others who’s names I can’t remember because I was too stoned and because they never lasted long before the next new stronger thing came along. That trend has never really stopped. It’s always the next new higher THC thing.
Same as today most people preferred the indica high and thought it was somehow stronger or better, but I never liked the red eyes and paranoia and cloudiness, whereas the sativas just made me feel tripped out and happy.
Not sure when the skunk disappeared. Maybe around the very late 90s? It seemed like for a while there it was only the bikers who had it anymore and around that time we used to call it ‘biker weed’. Then it quietly vanished. I guess it just got bred out of existence.
I miss the smell. But nostalgia aside, personally I never liked the high that much anyway. I’m not so sure it’s all about the THC. There are a lot of other things going on in weed. If you just want strong- get some shatter. THC levels have steadily increased over the years- and I guess the pot is stronger but I’m not sure it’s better- but maybe it’s me that’s changed.
Mostly, IMO, it comes back to what bluter said- nobody gets high like they used to in high school. I mean, isn’t that why it’s called high school?
I don't think there is an infusion of "hemp". It is more likely that ruderalis is what was introduced to lot of strains to get them to finish quicker and produce the auto's that exploded in popularity. Breeders started catering to indoor growing and northern outdoor growers. Indica's due to their shorter growth, larger yields, intoxicating/narcotic effects and quick flowing times have driven the market.
My experience is in line with most here regarding the old school sativa's if you can find them. Ace, Green House Seed co and other breeders people have mentioned come to mind when looking for good sativa's. Those will produce that longer lasting more psychoactive high. There used to be a thread around here where people were looking for and growing out these land race older strains.
True Sativa's are not as popular because of the tall spindly nature and long flowering times but they are still out there if you can handle a taller plant with a 13-14 week flowering period and lower yields. They are difficult to cultivate for newer growers. Most growers can barely get a white widow or northern lights plant to finish correctly from what I have seen around here.
Short answer, the consumer. The growers are responsible. People growing for profit get more weight in less time with less space and the newbie indoor marker where people want to row a pount of weed off one plant grown in a shoe box like space.
Size and potency badass keepers, xoraspberryglue, gotime,bb3 oss, strawberry cheesecake, gth, vortex.
good luck, please post your progress
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Diatomacious
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I'm telling you straight up my friend... todays weed is maybe as good as mid-grade back in the 80's. Don't let em tell ya otherwise. The government has embraced legalization only so it can "regulate" and reduce potency (or at least availability. You could order seed as late as 2000 that was absolutely the bomb as far as buzz is concerned, stoned to the bone type stuff. Today you order seeds that say "high THC" and get a mild buzz at best.In the 90s a lot of newfangled stronger indicas started appearing like Chemo, Hydro, and a bunch of others who’s names I can’t remember because I was too stoned and because they never lasted long before the next new stronger thing came along. That trend has never really stopped. It’s always the next new higher THC thing.
Same as today most people preferred the indica high and thought it was somehow stronger or better, but I never liked the red eyes and paranoia and cloudiness, whereas the sativas just made me feel tripped out and happy.
I’m not so sure it’s all about the THC. There are a lot of other things going on in weed. If you just want strong- get some shatter. THC levels have steadily increased over the years- and I guess the pot is stronger but I’m not sure it’s better- but maybe it’s me that’s changed.
Mostly, IMO, it comes back to what bluter said- nobody gets high like they used to in high school. I mean, isn’t that why it’s called high school?
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See my previous post above.
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Diatomacious
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You know what breeders? TH Seeds, Sagarmatha, Sensi Seed??? So many phonies out there.
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Bump me up if you find any wicked weed seed... said the cat in the hat.