MeatGrinder - Northern Lights Auto - DWC - LED - 1st Timer - 2016/2017

[MeatGrinder]

Cool i might just give some RO a try this week as my tap water is around 9 ph and 200 ppm, no i dont drink it either lol only dishs and washing from the tap. Thanks again for the advice the ol ladys bitching now about the gas tho lol.

 

[philly cheese]

I've only used tap water for my whole grow and I test ph after all nuts put in. I freeze 2x 2L bottles of pop and that's enough to sustain the cool temp in water to keep pythium away. Oh and I put hydrogen peroxide once every 2 or 3 days just in case. Cuz I had root rot in the early veg stage of my plants. Now they good. I probably stunted them from that. Here they are today.

Cheers my fellow growers!
Phil

 

[MeatGrinder]

@philly cheese those things look great man nice job thanks for sharing. Im thinking of running a tub after this go round so i can run 2 strains the norther lights auto and the cbd cheese auto both from crop king.

 

[MeatGrinder]

I just went and gave mine a peek and she grew an inch vertical overnight. That is the best overnight growth ive had yet and i think i see the starts of lil white hairs but im not going to call it yet lol.

 

[philly cheese]

Ya nice can't wait to see new pics. After this grow though , knowing what I know now, I'm sure you'll realize too, that the best option is gonna be ebb and flow. Requires less energy and maintenance then this DWC/top drip way. Mainly cuz you can have a reservoir separate under a table that you build. Which means water temps will not fluctuate as much. Also easier to drain and maintain nutrients.

Anyways that's the plan. What do you all think of that?

Cheers my fellow growers!
Phil

 

[greengostarr]

Ya nice can't wait to see new pics. After this grow though , knowing what I know now, I'm sure you'll realize too, that the best option is gonna be ebb and flow. Requires less energy and maintenance then this DWC/top drip way. Mainly cuz you can have a reservoir separate under a table that you build. Which means water temps will not fluctuate as much. Also easier to drain and maintain nutrients.

Anyways that's the plan. What do you all think of that?

Cheers my fellow growers!
Phil

I'm a lazy arse phucker and am running a recirculating top feed. What's the advantage of an ebb and flow over this?

 

[philly cheese]

I guess you didn't read the full message I wrote down. I think that with Ebb & Flow systems, maintenance of the system is much easier than the DWC. I'm not talking about yield difference between the two. Ebb and flow: one res to change, clean & top-up. With DWC, let's say you want to grow 4 plants in buckets. That's 4 different water solutions that you have to monitor and replace. I got pythium 3rd week of growing my plants because the water was warm from the light hitting the bin. I fixed the problem by#1 bought 2 more airstones #2 changed the water again#3 bought a water temp gauge#4 have to put 2x frozen 2L bottles a day to keep temp nice and low.
Emphasis on the "keeping your water cool" so that bad bacteria will not thrive. Just look at the youtube video "I grow chronic" the hour or so long of proper set up.

Cheers my fellow growers!
Phil

 

[greengostarr]

I guess you didn't read the full message I wrote down. I think that with Ebb & Flow systems, maintenance of the system is much easier than the DWC. I'm not talking about yield difference between the two. Ebb and flow: one res to change, clean & top-up. With DWC, let's say you want to grow 4 plants in buckets. That's 4 different water solutions that you have to monitor and replace. I got pythium 3rd week of growing my plants because the water was warm from the light hitting the bin. I fixed the problem by#1 bought 2 more airstones #2 changed the water again#3 bought a water temp gauge#4 have to put 2x frozen 2L bottles a day to keep temp nice and low.
Emphasis on the "keeping your water cool" so that bad bacteria will not thrive. Just look at the youtube video "I grow chronic" the hour or so long of proper set up.

Cheers my fellow growers!
Phil

Ah, my friend, I fear you misinterpreted my post. I am running my first indoor and using a top feed recirculating hydro. I was asking the benefits of an ebb and and flow over a top feed as I have 0 experience and scant more knowledge of an ebb and flow system. Top feed recirculating just seems so simple and effective.

 

[MeatGrinder]

Is this something fun or just more leaves?

 

[MeatGrinder]

And that is how shes looking this morning. Ive got two big fan leaves i thought had deficency but there going crispy so maybe my 600ppm is to much ferts. Or not i think after this go round im going to go with pure coco coir and medi one ferts just for the ease of life plus i can use shorter rounder pots vs the 5 gallon dwc.

 

[MeatGrinder]

Shes just a touch over 7 inchs now.

 

[philly cheese]

I think you can start LST soon. My mistake was not doing it sooner. Try and expose light to the new leaves / under big fan leaves. Looks good and healthy. If you want to have more tops and buds you'll have to keep the LST up every other day and trimming of leaves. There's some vids on youtube the guy "growpotchea ply" explains what he does. Worth a look for reference. Im happy your plant bounced back from that deficiency!

Cheers my fellow growers!
Phil

 

[philly cheese]

Btw you can trim the leaves off that look shitty and yellow. No need to keep them on your plant.

Cheers my fellow growers!
Phil

 

[MeatGrinder]

Is this something fun or just more leaves?

 

[MeatGrinder]

Oddly enuff that double window fan in there actually is keeping my res temp a little lower lol maybe not conventinal but screw it. Temps werent high to begin with but nothing wrong with alittle security on that level i guess highest temp i read in there now right before lights off is 72 before it was 75.

 

[greengostarr]

Is this something fun or just more leaves?

Looks like the start of something fun.

 

[MeatGrinder]

Looks like the start of something fun.

Thats what i was thinking but with my luck who knows will give it a week before i get excited.

 

[MeatGrinder]

Another week another res change @ 750ppm 5.75 ph 66 degree water. 20ml bloom 15ml micro 15ml grow and 10ml cal mag to 4 gallons of RO. Will check every couple hours for signs of nute burn and dilute as needed. Shes standing happy at 7.5 inchs tall 33% humidity and 75 degrees. I can say for sure the GH ph up added straight after mixing fertz is knocking something out of solution. As i dripped one drop then two and then three from a dropped a white condensate appeared and settled, i stopped mixed for a while diluted my ph up into a bit of ro and added it that way and no condensate appeared visabily atleast. So idk what is dropping out but i think that has been my prob all along maybe its my batch of ph up or my batch of fertz but it is deff happenening.

 

[greengostarr]

A couple of questions, how much water are you using for your nutes and how the heck are you needing PH up? Is your water super acidic?

ETA: I just checked RO water online and see it can have a PH between 5 and 7! (I use tap water that is fairly neutral and after my res change and addition of GH nutes tonight, my PH was fine at 6).

 

[MeatGrinder]

4 gallons of RO in the mix the ph was 7.5 before the ferts after they were added it was down around 5.2.