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Thank you camelion , glad its getting smelly now too. a couple more weeks to go. seems an age waiting. lplLooks great in there!
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Day 37/63 Flowering: I am pleased to say that the green has returned nicely now . The megacrop has done brilliant with the los so far. No issues with toxicity or other , a slight tip burn here and there but nothing major. I gave them another feed today at MC 14g/10L water. I use a water cleaner too which removes chloramine and chlorine among other shit in the water here so they are still getting the best I can give them water wise.
Having just passed the halfway point and the budswell weeks to start about now , I can only imagine the finished colas. They already look nice and chunky wherever I look above so the filling out below should increase more now too. I have turned the Fft#10 180° now to try and get her under as much as possible light. She has potential to be an absolute trich monster.
Now when I lift the loft hatch to go to my room , the smell that hits me as soon as I lift is overwhelming. It is a very pungent kush/skunk smell and shows me I need a bigger filter and a sealed tent now !!!.
The density of the buds is solid and there is just about a squeeze in them. I will have to watch for bud rot as these swell I think but I have now got the dehumidifier running at its second highest setting and down to approx 55% Rh. Temps are good at approx 22.5°c as it is cold in the UK again now !!. lol
I am happy with the spread of the canopy and how well the lights are penetrating too. I think 4 in 30L pots to each light in my environment would be a perfect fit. This is ideal for the upcoming 12 auto grow and will be a great test for the lights .
I hope we are all still healthy and well amd yourbgrows are stellar. be safe growmies
Having just passed the halfway point and the budswell weeks to start about now , I can only imagine the finished colas. They already look nice and chunky wherever I look above so the filling out below should increase more now too. I have turned the Fft#10 180° now to try and get her under as much as possible light. She has potential to be an absolute trich monster.
Now when I lift the loft hatch to go to my room , the smell that hits me as soon as I lift is overwhelming. It is a very pungent kush/skunk smell and shows me I need a bigger filter and a sealed tent now !!!.
The density of the buds is solid and there is just about a squeeze in them. I will have to watch for bud rot as these swell I think but I have now got the dehumidifier running at its second highest setting and down to approx 55% Rh. Temps are good at approx 22.5°c as it is cold in the UK again now !!. lol
I am happy with the spread of the canopy and how well the lights are penetrating too. I think 4 in 30L pots to each light in my environment would be a perfect fit. This is ideal for the upcoming 12 auto grow and will be a great test for the lights .
I hope we are all still healthy and well amd yourbgrows are stellar. be safe growmies
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Looking good GG 
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Cheers Celt. happily frosting up now and feels so close to the end finally . Thanks for the vibe and stopping by.Looking good GG
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I pop through every morning, but usually just buzzing the tower the past few weeks. Full out harvesting the outdoor crop taking most of my time. 8 plants down, 3 more to go 
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seeing your grow , I am surprised you get time to even eat .lol grwat to have you on-board mate. I will keep upnwith you somehow. love your out-door too. fingers crossed for a few days grace on the frost issue. I would love to grow without restrictions or stealth. Hoping to get a grip on auto growing for a sneaky guerrilla grow next summer locally. If we haven't all been killed off that is. lolI pop through every morning, but usually just buzzing the tower the past few weeks. Full out harvesting the outdoor crop taking most of my time. 8 plants down, 3 more to go
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Good afternoon Growmies.
Day 40 Flowering: Another few days gone and they bud stacks are becoming the "Donkeys" i had been hoping they would.
I am running the dehumidifier at 50% Rh setting which also raises the rooms temperature a bit so I have to balance that when the lights are on. It helps at the dark period as this avoids the room temp plummeting to the very cold 8°c that surrounds the tents walls !. Bloody UK weather !!!.
Waterings have been every two days with MC feeds and the surface and 1st couple of inches are dried out prior to the next feed. They seem to be gorging on the water each feed of 8L each.
The light is helping to create some serious frost on the buds and is getting down quite deep into the canopy which is a good thing to see. Being an old HPS stalwart and feeling that this factor was a big reason for continuing with previous use , it is a relief to see them being matched now by Mars. Perfect for a nice scrog too with so much coverage.
Amnesia Haze is still popping plenty of fresh pistils out every day ,so still has a few weeks at least before I get worried they won't fatten up and finish .lol
She is getting some colours appearing but is still dominated by the fresh white ones and rhe frosty building of trichs. She smells so sweet now with a hint of mint just appearing. Bud stacks have an excellent leaf to bud ratio so shouldn't be too hard to trim her up come harvest time. The buds themselves are nice and firm, tightly formed and getting tacky to brush against.
FFT#9 is getting a nice fuel and fruit hit when up close now. Her bud stacks are nice and long with some great Donkey D's formed . She is still very fresh flowered but is creating some nice orange and pink among a few tops. Her buds are quite chubby looking as opposed to long thin spires at thisnpoint and she has some cylinders forming now. I think at least 2 more weeks fattening before she really starts to work on her trichrome ripening.
FFT#10 Darkness is coming along so nicely now with her dusty , dense and sweet smelling buds of sherbet... Her colas are thicker than the other 2 los girls and I think she is certainly up there for the surprise yielder . With other grows I have seen of her , she will go to at least 63 days so there is still plenty of swelling time ahead !. Her trichrome production is the highest of the 3 but she has a lot of leaf within the buds but great for the hash run later though . Sticky Vicky is the smelliest of the group so far and that sherbet smell is very familiar ?.
The 3 NFT ladies are ambling along still and seeing some of the colours appearing and the aromas makes the again even more frustrating. The results they are putting out in their strive for harvest are so nice but tiny. These ladies will all have their own ceremony of fire come harvest time
So here we have it folk's Day 40 is halfway done and the ladies are happy little souls.I love opening the tent to this everyday now
Not long now. Be safe and well growmies. Thanks for the visit.
Day 40 Flowering: Another few days gone and they bud stacks are becoming the "Donkeys" i had been hoping they would.
I am running the dehumidifier at 50% Rh setting which also raises the rooms temperature a bit so I have to balance that when the lights are on. It helps at the dark period as this avoids the room temp plummeting to the very cold 8°c that surrounds the tents walls !. Bloody UK weather !!!.
Waterings have been every two days with MC feeds and the surface and 1st couple of inches are dried out prior to the next feed. They seem to be gorging on the water each feed of 8L each.
The light is helping to create some serious frost on the buds and is getting down quite deep into the canopy which is a good thing to see. Being an old HPS stalwart and feeling that this factor was a big reason for continuing with previous use , it is a relief to see them being matched now by Mars. Perfect for a nice scrog too with so much coverage.
Amnesia Haze is still popping plenty of fresh pistils out every day ,so still has a few weeks at least before I get worried they won't fatten up and finish .lol
She is getting some colours appearing but is still dominated by the fresh white ones and rhe frosty building of trichs. She smells so sweet now with a hint of mint just appearing. Bud stacks have an excellent leaf to bud ratio so shouldn't be too hard to trim her up come harvest time. The buds themselves are nice and firm, tightly formed and getting tacky to brush against.
FFT#9 is getting a nice fuel and fruit hit when up close now. Her bud stacks are nice and long with some great Donkey D's formed . She is still very fresh flowered but is creating some nice orange and pink among a few tops. Her buds are quite chubby looking as opposed to long thin spires at thisnpoint and she has some cylinders forming now. I think at least 2 more weeks fattening before she really starts to work on her trichrome ripening.
FFT#10 Darkness is coming along so nicely now with her dusty , dense and sweet smelling buds of sherbet... Her colas are thicker than the other 2 los girls and I think she is certainly up there for the surprise yielder . With other grows I have seen of her , she will go to at least 63 days so there is still plenty of swelling time ahead !. Her trichrome production is the highest of the 3 but she has a lot of leaf within the buds but great for the hash run later though . Sticky Vicky is the smelliest of the group so far and that sherbet smell is very familiar ?.
The 3 NFT ladies are ambling along still and seeing some of the colours appearing and the aromas makes the again even more frustrating. The results they are putting out in their strive for harvest are so nice but tiny. These ladies will all have their own ceremony of fire come harvest time
So here we have it folk's Day 40 is halfway done and the ladies are happy little souls.I love opening the tent to this everyday now
Not long now. Be safe and well growmies. Thanks for the visit.
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Cheers Dd. Happy to see your namesake arriving in abundance , nearly as happy as a coach load of grannies on a dirty weekend would be .!!!!. hahaha. So glad they filled the space as well as they have. Will easily get me to the Auto harvest time on the next run.Safety glasses required
Thanks for the visit buddy.
You could be starting your autos under 12/12 in here before this lot is done. I guess?
I mean if it worked you could run an auto only perpetual garden. Just a thought.
I mean if it worked you could run an auto only perpetual garden. Just a thought.
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This is my thinking at the moment. I could germinate but this would still mean waiting for the soil and pots from this grow to make a new mix that i think will better work with autos. Using ecothrive coco-lite in the soil mix and remixing the whole medium with a charge up too. seeing how hard it was for the l.o.s to deal with the big girls flowering has me a little baffled but the MC saves the day so a lighter soil to travel through while rootball building and all the nutes available from los , then substitute again with Mc for the flowering boost. Hoping to learn a little more on autos as i go with the nextr one and possibly keeping them perpetual with a good sponsor maybe.?. fingers crossed.lol
i keep plugging .lol
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Day 41Flower: As I did an update yesterday I was going to leave a few days to pass as usual and update then but the changes today were worth the update I thought.
I am also going to do an induced drought stress at day 49 for about 9-11days depending on their response to it. With this in mind I decided a good gorging of some PK , sumo boost and Mc for the next week was in order. I am going with the LOS being depleted so feel safe to use a pk boost for a very short time. It is designed to be used throughout flowering at a 9-18 ratio alongside the sumo boost. You also reduce the feed needed to compensate for the shogun products so I used 7g/10L Megacrop in each bucket. I also added 50ml of Blackstrap molasses to each bucket in case the herd are hungry and still going. I made a fresh batch of molasses foliar too at 30ml/4.5L Water and gave them a nice drench before i left the tent.
Each pot got approx 8L of water and were just showing signs of runoff at that. I will feed them again tomorrow if I feel they can take another drink. these big pots can take some water and the stems on the plants are nice and thick for them transport system. Fingers crossed I haven't pushed them too much this time. I will be watching them like a hawk now.
The girth of each stack has increased without doubt compared and I am hoping it is the indicator of a burst of energy from them all. The FFT 9 seems to be the most energetic but the sneaky Fft#10 is certainly packing the weight on quietly within those leafy bundles and thicket. The frost from these new lights is amazing too. seeing them up close in the flesh is a clear indicator of how much good spectrum and power matter. With a few weeks left , they should be soppy with oils and trichs for harvest.
Enjoy the pics Growmies. be safe and well.
I am also going to do an induced drought stress at day 49 for about 9-11days depending on their response to it. With this in mind I decided a good gorging of some PK , sumo boost and Mc for the next week was in order. I am going with the LOS being depleted so feel safe to use a pk boost for a very short time. It is designed to be used throughout flowering at a 9-18 ratio alongside the sumo boost. You also reduce the feed needed to compensate for the shogun products so I used 7g/10L Megacrop in each bucket. I also added 50ml of Blackstrap molasses to each bucket in case the herd are hungry and still going. I made a fresh batch of molasses foliar too at 30ml/4.5L Water and gave them a nice drench before i left the tent.
Each pot got approx 8L of water and were just showing signs of runoff at that. I will feed them again tomorrow if I feel they can take another drink. these big pots can take some water and the stems on the plants are nice and thick for them transport system. Fingers crossed I haven't pushed them too much this time. I will be watching them like a hawk now.
The girth of each stack has increased without doubt compared and I am hoping it is the indicator of a burst of energy from them all. The FFT 9 seems to be the most energetic but the sneaky Fft#10 is certainly packing the weight on quietly within those leafy bundles and thicket. The frost from these new lights is amazing too. seeing them up close in the flesh is a clear indicator of how much good spectrum and power matter. With a few weeks left , they should be soppy with oils and trichs for harvest.
Enjoy the pics Growmies. be safe and well.
Hi @Ganjagrandaddy garden is looking great. I have been looking into ecothrive products as I'd like to minimise time mixing nutrients etc. A quick search for ecothrive on here pointed me your way. Which products did you use and how did you find them? TIA
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hi Vetsmoke. They are a uk company so easy to find here in UK. They do have a site but I know there are a few growshops that sell and deliver online too. I use the whole range from the water treatment to kill chlorine, ecocharge biosys , life,-cycle , and their living organic soil. I have 60L pots for each plant to give enough medium to feed the plant ( just about makes it !) so it seems you need at least that amount to keep enough production of feeds for the plants going . I supplemented this run with Megacrop as the los is getting over ran by the plants demands. Live the products and results though.
Thanks for that. Yeah I more meant how had you found using them, which you covered anyway so much appreciated. Local hydro store stocks it all. My main concern with it is my pot size will be small. Planning to flower clones in 2L fabric pots in a small SoG style grow. Probably 6 lollipopped plants. So the amount of soil won't hold nutrients to last very long, but was thinking even if I have to sprinkle a little lifecycle on a couple of times a week and the odd biosys/charge feed it would still be less work than mixing all the other stuff up every couple of days. Think I'll just have to give it a go and see what happens. The whole plan could fall apart but won't know until I try.
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This is why i went to the big 60L pots too. i worried that 20L would be way too little medium to do it justice I did amend with biosys and life-cycle and charge at regular intervals watered to keep them just below moist on before each feed. I ammon the 3rd run with it now and each time , flowering runs out of steam and starts to use her stores from the leaves. previously I thought it was natural fade but seeing them using the megacrop with gumption at the same stage as previously faded has screamed feed me. Leafes have got their perfect green back ( true Megacrop style !) and the buds are so productive still. I tried adding Molasses to the water for the herd before I used the megacrop too. now feeding that in too plus foliar feeding occasionally. I think a big 100L bed or bigger is the best way to get this medium active and productive through the cycles. I did veg for 8-9 weeks though so expect i had a lot of expectations from it.Thanks for that. Yeah I more meant how had you found using them, which you covered anyway so much appreciated. Local hydro store stocks it all. My main concern with it is my pot size will be small. Planning to flower clones in 2L fabric pots in a small SoG style grow. Probably 6 lollipopped plants. So the amount of soil won't hold nutrients to last very long, but was thinking even if I have to sprinkle a little lifecycle on a couple of times a week and the odd biosys/charge feed it would still be less work than mixing all the other stuff up every couple of days. Think I'll just have to give it a go and see what happens. The whole plan could fall apart but won't know until I try.
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Looking great, nice work!!! 
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thank you camelion. been a fun ride and now paying off thankfully.
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Update Day 44: I cant resist the postings now guys and gals. These ladies are impressing the hell out of me now.
I do need to consides better filtering for the smell and a way to seal the room !!!. The smell from the room last night after the lights went off was so LOUD AND NOXIOUS that even Mrs GG was commenting on the "stink" She is my top trimmer and usually comments at that point but this time round it is so smelly . Sadly the pics and videos cannot do them justice in that area.
I took few shots in the dark a few evenings back for frost shots and to show the hidden nugs out a little.
Now we are on day 44 flower and "The ladies" are in full swing with their seductive phase for those horny pollen spreaders. The Amnesia haze is slightly behind for colouring up but is still pushing lots of new pistils , especially lower in the canopy. Her tops are swollen nicely and I did find a small patch of rot on the head nearest to the dehumidifier. This had filled the reservoir after the added drain pipe fell off so the unit switched off in the night. The room was at 74%rh this morning when i checked at 12am , 3 hours after lights on. Hopefully dealt with now and more air over the buds with a 50% rh again will stop that. I gave them a blast of molasses water spray too to aid with the inoculation. if I spot anymore later it will be a 20% milk/water soaking for it too.
aside from that, all is going so well with the last phase being the ripening up after the swell.
FFT #9 Is whacking the weight on too now. shebhas some really nice pinky oranges appearing among the fresh pistils too. very interesting for what she is now. Her long buds will hopefully be a good indicator of her genetics at the end . Her smell is very fresh fruit and definitely familiar. Shebhas not been a slouch at all and takes all her feed with no issues at all. I think she will go the full 70 days hopefully as she still has a few fresh bursts of pistils appearing. She has filled her space perfectly for the final flowering with nearly all her buds in light now.
FFT#10 Looks like she will be ready before the other 2 ladies without doubt. Some of her tops look close already for maturity and ripening . She is a very sweet candy smell like the zkittelz was and has a look similar to GG#4 to her leaves and structure. Her long , thick , shaggy buds are clung to the branches rather than opened out like indica. I feel that the lights have certainly helped to tighten theirbbud structure and in lesser power , her buds would have been more airy and bushier. I will be very interested in her yield now.
I gave them a really good final feed before I start the 9 day drought stress. Reading the papers and research on this method has given me an idea that maybe the faster flowering and their speed will see the desired branch droop sooner than the original tests of 11 days with a 9 week test subject. I initially thought it was a way of "flushing" logic for soil and did not see the point until I read through and realised that feeding then resumes until harvest. At a lower strength but still feeding again. The idea of stress at the end of the flowering cycle is one that I have experimented with in its of other grows too. This isn't one I have done this way before but my last harvest ended with me leaving them in their pots drying out in total darkness for nearly 2 weeks before the final hanging to totally dry. I didnt notice any real benefit to oil or thc this way worth mentioning now , so thought I would try this method the right way.
I got some nice pics today and had to post again. They are doing me so proud.
Be well Growmies.
I do need to consides better filtering for the smell and a way to seal the room !!!. The smell from the room last night after the lights went off was so LOUD AND NOXIOUS that even Mrs GG was commenting on the "stink" She is my top trimmer and usually comments at that point but this time round it is so smelly . Sadly the pics and videos cannot do them justice in that area.
I took few shots in the dark a few evenings back for frost shots and to show the hidden nugs out a little.
aside from that, all is going so well with the last phase being the ripening up after the swell.
FFT #9 Is whacking the weight on too now. shebhas some really nice pinky oranges appearing among the fresh pistils too. very interesting for what she is now. Her long buds will hopefully be a good indicator of her genetics at the end . Her smell is very fresh fruit and definitely familiar. Shebhas not been a slouch at all and takes all her feed with no issues at all. I think she will go the full 70 days hopefully as she still has a few fresh bursts of pistils appearing. She has filled her space perfectly for the final flowering with nearly all her buds in light now.
FFT#10 Looks like she will be ready before the other 2 ladies without doubt. Some of her tops look close already for maturity and ripening . She is a very sweet candy smell like the zkittelz was and has a look similar to GG#4 to her leaves and structure. Her long , thick , shaggy buds are clung to the branches rather than opened out like indica. I feel that the lights have certainly helped to tighten theirbbud structure and in lesser power , her buds would have been more airy and bushier. I will be very interested in her yield now.
I gave them a really good final feed before I start the 9 day drought stress. Reading the papers and research on this method has given me an idea that maybe the faster flowering and their speed will see the desired branch droop sooner than the original tests of 11 days with a 9 week test subject. I initially thought it was a way of "flushing" logic for soil and did not see the point until I read through and realised that feeding then resumes until harvest. At a lower strength but still feeding again. The idea of stress at the end of the flowering cycle is one that I have experimented with in its of other grows too. This isn't one I have done this way before but my last harvest ended with me leaving them in their pots drying out in total darkness for nearly 2 weeks before the final hanging to totally dry. I didnt notice any real benefit to oil or thc this way worth mentioning now , so thought I would try this method the right way.
I got some nice pics today and had to post again. They are doing me so proud.
Looking so good G!
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