Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion

Mars Hydro said:
Hello everyone, Mars Hydro need your suggestions!
Some growers asked for lights for their separate VEG ROOM or FLOWERING ROOM. We are considering to design 3 types for SP6500 and FC6500 light. Which type you prefer? Choose number 1-4 on the picture.

1.ALL IN ONE: Full spectrum for all plant stages from seedling, veg to flower. (same as now)
2.VEG ROOM LIGHT : Mainly used for the veg stage
For growth stage, what spectrum wavelength you like best?
A: 660nm
B: 470nm
4.FLOWER ROOM LIGHT: Mainly used for the bloom stage

Don't hesitate to express freely. Appreciated of any opinion! Thank you!:thanks:
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A flowering spec tsw style light to cover tents that don't have 4 feet length
 
Mars Hydro said:
Hello everyone, Mars Hydro need your suggestions!
Some growers asked for lights for their separate VEG ROOM or FLOWERING ROOM. We are considering to design 3 types for SP6500 and FC6500 light. Which type you prefer? Choose number 1-4 on the picture.

1.ALL IN ONE: Full spectrum for all plant stages from seedling, veg to flower. (same as now)
2.VEG ROOM LIGHT : Mainly used for the veg stage
For growth stage, what spectrum wavelength you like best?
A: 660nm
B: 470nm
4.FLOWER ROOM LIGHT: Mainly used for the bloom stage

Don't hesitate to express freely. Appreciated of any opinion! Thank you!:thanks:
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most full spec lights fall short in flower. i triple my lighting between veg and flower stages.

i run a 200w veg light and a 600w flower light. the spectrum are exactly the same between them. both are an even mix of 3000k and 3500k. i run a flower bias over all in spectrum, and the lights would be considered "full spectrum" lights, meaning either could be run successfully from seedling through flower.

it's the power that makes the difference. most full spec lights are a bit hot for veg and too wimpy for flower. i see the same things over and over, and hear the same complaints from folk who run one light for all.
 
Mars Hydro said:
For growth stage, what spectrum wavelength you like best?
A: 660nm
B: 470nm
4.FLOWER ROOM LIGHT: Mainly used for the bloom stage
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those are narrow targets. the old burples relied on those targets.


edit : i will add most grows benefit form having a noticeable jump in power between the veg and flower stages. you can also target spectrum better for the two if you go deeper.

i personally go with the red bias either way, but a 4000k / 3500k target mix of emitters would be closer to what most growers would like in a veg light, over what i run. some would go deeper at 4500K, but that is getting too blue for my preferences.
 
Just an input, what Bluter is saying makes sence. Id go for an all in one, its just easyier for the small home grower and add some U.V with that nice HPS Orange, I guess the 2000K range. But have the boards more flower power with a decent veg strenth too.
Good Job Mars Hydro i must say, been using your lights for years now and progress is good, people underestimating the power of new gen leds, but now used by alot of good growers :high-five:
 
What everyone's thoughts......is the TSW2000 good for a 4x4 tent? I see Mars Hydro recommends the TS3000 for 4x4 flower, but I'm hoping my plants don't touch the walls of a 4x4. Think I'm ok with the TSW2000 or will I be disappointed I didn't get the TS3000?

@Mars Hydro what the Black Friday sale going to be;).
 
Timhomegrow said:
What everyone's thoughts......is the TSW2000 good for a 4x4 tent? I see Mars Hydro recommends the TS3000 for 4x4 flower, but I'm hoping my plants don't touch the walls of a 4x4. Think I'm ok with the TSW2000 or will I be disappointed I didn't get the TS3000?

@Mars Hydro what the Black Friday sale going to be;).
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My first grow was under the tsw 2000. Overall It did a great job. My second grow I added another light and double my yeild with half the plants.

As a beginner light I would definitely recommend, but if your planning a bit more long term, spend the extra money.
 
Mars Hydro said:
Hello everyone, Mars Hydro need your suggestions!
Some growers asked for lights for their separate VEG ROOM or FLOWERING ROOM. We are considering to design 3 types for SP6500 and FC6500 light. Which type you prefer? Choose number 1-4 on the picture.

1.ALL IN ONE: Full spectrum for all plant stages from seedling, veg to flower. (same as now)
2.VEG ROOM LIGHT : Mainly used for the veg stage
For growth stage, what spectrum wavelength you like best?
A: 660nm
B: 470nm
4.FLOWER ROOM LIGHT: Mainly used for the bloom stage

Don't hesitate to express freely. Appreciated of any opinion! Thank you!:thanks:
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I started out 4 years ago with a marshydro 300w in a small 2x4 grow tent and it did pretty well. Then 2 years I added a Mars hydro 600 watt in there but did not see much improvement over the 300w.
I now have an 8x8 set up running the ts3000.
Holy shit this light rocks!! Hope to be able to afford a couple more soon.

Side note, the 600w has a bunch of leds burning out. Anyone know what the replacement leds are?? I can solder them in no problem...
 
Drstickey said:
Side note, the 600w has a bunch of leds burning out. Anyone know what the replacement leds are?? I can solder them in no problem...
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pull the specs on the light. you might get lucky and they list the diodes.

not sure what light you are referring to, but the emitters are usually an smd - surface mount device - meaning they are printed more or less direct to board or strip. replacement is usually the whole strip or board as a fix, individual emitters are not replaceable.

really old school devices have separate stand alone emitters. most of those chipsets will have been long superseded however.
 
bluter said:
pull the specs on the light. you might get lucky and they list the diodes.

not sure what light you are referring to, but the emitters are usually an smd - surface mount device - meaning they are printed more or less direct to board or strip. replacement is usually the whole strip or board as a fix, individual emitters are not replaceable.

really old school devices have separate stand alone emitters. most of those chipsets will have been long superseded however.
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Its only 2 years old. I went to ebay, Then the mars hydro site, but no longer see this model. Its your typical black box light with cooling fans and has a pretty redish color light compared to the 300w which is burple.
I'll figure something out....eventually....
 
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indochronic said:
Just an input, what Bluter is saying makes sence. Id go for an all in one, its just easyier for the small home grower and add some U.V with that nice HPS Orange, I guess the 2000K range. But have the boards more flower power with a decent veg strenth too.
Good Job Mars Hydro i must say, been using your lights for years now and progress is good, people underestimating the power of new gen leds, but now used by alot of good growers
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i have two separate spaces and use two separate rigs. that is the set up i would prefer and would recommend.

for those using a single grow space or tent though, the all - in - one solution makes sense. my greatest criticism is most all in one lights perform well in veg and fall a bit short in flower.

my approach in flower is to provide more light than is required for the space and dial back some. not really an option in most all in one rigs.
 
PK said:
all in one with the ability to set the light to different modes.
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This means that more chips will be added to the PCB, and how to arrange the chips so that the lights are uniform in different modes is a question worth thinking about
 
bluter said:
most full spec lights fall short in flower. i triple my lighting between veg and flower stages.

i run a 200w veg light and a 600w flower light. the spectrum are exactly the same between them. both are an even mix of 3000k and 3500k. i run a flower bias over all in spectrum, and the lights would be considered "full spectrum" lights, meaning either could be run successfully from seedling through flower.

it's the power that makes the difference. most full spec lights are a bit hot for veg and too wimpy for flower. i see the same things over and over, and hear the same complaints from folk who run one light for all.
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A dimmable full spectrum LED can make the LED less hot during the VEG stage. I think some of the personal growing customers do not want to bear the price of two lights.
 
Timhomegrow said:
What everyone's thoughts......is the TSW2000 good for a 4x4 tent? I see Mars Hydro recommends the TS3000 for 4x4 flower, but I'm hoping my plants don't touch the walls of a 4x4. Think I'm ok with the TSW2000 or will I be disappointed I didn't get the TS3000?

@Mars Hydro what the Black Friday sale going to be;).
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TSW2000 can only cover 3x3 flower, 4x4 for veg. TS3000 can cover 4x4 flower.
 
Timhomegrow said:
@Mars Hydro what the Black Friday sale going to be
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we will offer 10% discount for TS led, and plus coupon code ‘420magazine’, Totally 13% off.
 
Drstickey said:
Side note, the 600w has a bunch of leds burning out. Anyone know what the replacement leds are?? I can solder them in no problem...
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You can contact our after-sales customer service solutions@mars-hydro.com, but if your 600 w have to use more than 3 years, I don't suggest you repair it, because in general, the service life of a led lights up to three years, in addition to the already broken lamp bead, other led lamp bead, power supply, and other accessories have been aging, will soon appear problem, so that your maintenance cost is very high, enough to buy a new light, the new lamps work better and last longer.
 
bluter said:
i have two separate spaces and use two separate rigs. that is the set up i would prefer and would recommend.

for those using a single grow space or tent though, the all - in - one solution makes sense. my greatest criticism is most all in one lights perform well in veg and fall a bit short in flower.

my approach in flower is to provide more light than is required for the space and dial back some. not really an option in most all in one rigs.
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We're working on some full-spectrum leds, adding more red light, so plants grow better during the flowering stage
 
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