learntogrow
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i made a mistake guys, it is her company!
Mars-Hydro LED Grow Light Discussion
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yes,that's ours.
BigIrishDoode
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BID, nice pictures, thank you.
BigIrishDoode
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it took 3 days to get here from the time i got the tracking number not to shabby, arrived in good condition and 100% working
now for the test run
thank you for choosing me and trusting me sara i will give the best darn journal i possibly can, one thing i will not do tho is lie in any way about the light im on a mission to report the absolute truth to the best of my ability ,
(((i know you dont want me to make anything up and im just saying that so everyone knows theres nothing shady going on at all, the only thing i gain is the light its self no other payments or promises have been made its a straight up product test!))
that said
i get a really good feeling about this light it looks and feels well built, and the short time i had it on today i was impressed with how bright and powerful it seems, so i think you have been honest and have a good product here, now if im right im about to prove it and become a loyal customer, and i will make sure everyone i can knows it too, the test starts tonight im hanging the light up right now! let the fun begin!!
now for the test run
thank you for choosing me and trusting me sara i will give the best darn journal i possibly can, one thing i will not do tho is lie in any way about the light im on a mission to report the absolute truth to the best of my ability ,
(((i know you dont want me to make anything up and im just saying that so everyone knows theres nothing shady going on at all, the only thing i gain is the light its self no other payments or promises have been made its a straight up product test!))
that said
i get a really good feeling about this light it looks and feels well built, and the short time i had it on today i was impressed with how bright and powerful it seems, so i think you have been honest and have a good product here, now if im right im about to prove it and become a loyal customer, and i will make sure everyone i can knows it too, the test starts tonight im hanging the light up right now! let the fun begin!!
Holy SmokeS-ara BID is already growing! I checked his new journal and this is going to be cool. BID do you also have one of those clones under HPS too?
BigIrishDoode
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no but i have grown that purple power many times clone of a clone style for like a year i know what it does under hps,mh,cfl & t5 i forgot about it when i was thinking of what i have to go thats well known to me, i know that one as well as blue dream, im still gonna put the blue dreams in there after they root but i wanted to get running asap ! im all excited like a kid about this light, i wanted led before i ever got my first hps but the cost and risk stopped me, im trying to "go green" as much as i can, we have compost bins, and a worm farm, all our outside lighting is solar, one day i hope to be all solar & led!
Lurch Farmer
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Did you know that leds run even better when powered by solar with battery backup?
Just got to remove the power converter or inverter can"t remember which is which.
Just got to remove the power converter or inverter can"t remember which is which.
BigIrishDoode
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i do now!Did you know that leds run even better when powered by solar with battery backup?
Just got to remove the power converter or inverter can"t remember which is which.
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My dear Friends, hope you all had a great weekend. I will leave for somedays. maybe will come back next monday.
Hi Sara, do you know when the light you are sending me will be mailed?
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I arrange your shipping details to my assisstent in factory, as soon as the light is ready, I will ask them ship out, if everything is ok, you can get the light this weekend or at the beginning of next week.
Ok thank you Sara, im really looking forward to working with this light.Do you have any spec on it yet? like footprint, watts,veg,bloom or both that sort of thing?
Well it took awhile to get all the way through this thread in between work tasks. 
I'm in the same camp as Jon. I think the switches are useful on models meant to be used throughout the life of the plant. However, If it's a dedicated veg or bloom spectrum, then not only are switches not needed, they would be detrimental as it would raise complexity and therefore cost.
This is a case of, "you can't please all the people all the time."
Buckshot, you know I have the deepest respect for you as a grower, but I disagree completely!
I don't want a green or "photo" LED in my panel. It's going to add to the cost and it another thing to break. A plain old green bulb worked for me in the 90's, and is still working for me now!
I'd rather spend $10 ($2 for the bulb and $8 for the clip light at wallyworld) for my green light, than an extra $5(10?) PER LIGHT. Granted, I need to buy more lights than some folks, but it adds up if you start running multiple lights.
Now why would I want to turn off some of my LEDs? Jon already brought up the benefit of introducing delicate cuttings, but there is another reason...
There are many reasons we want to use LED, but one of them is targeted spectrum. And why do we want to use a targeted spectrum? The logic is, other "white" lights are wasting too much light energy in the wrong spectrums. Let's just agree that the plant absorbs different wavelengths at different rates and there is an "ideal" curve of absorption and that that curve changes during the plants lifecylce. Can we also agree that the plant prefers more red during flowering?
If we agree on the assumptions, then the switches help us towards the goal of delivering an optimal curve of intensity vs wavelength during the different phases of growth. Let's be clear, I'm not trying to say whether topledgrowlight, or any other LED vendor, has found that optimum curve. I suspect the better companies are getting closer everyday, but that's irrelevant to the discussion of the merits of switching off part of the panel.
Buck, I think you run a perpetual though, so of course you don't want a switch as your panels are always in a 12/12 room, right? I'm only advocating the switch for growers that want one panel to use in veg and flower. Like you, I want the bloom panel without a switch. Actually, I want 10 of them!
OK, now you guys are getting crazy!
I'm the type of person that likes to separate out functions. Maybe it's my computer programming background where we always try to break pieces of code apart so that no chunk tried to do too many things object orientated design is what they called it in school). What happens when the timer in my panel breaks and it get's "stuck" off? I'm sure you would be as upset as I would be. Let's assume it happens under warranty... I don't want to have to remove a LIGHT from my flowering room when I could have just replaced a timer.
No thank you. Let's please keep the panel as simple a design as possible.
OMG!
LOL see above
You guys are getting carried away now. Shove a panning webcam low in the room and you can just visually inspect all the panels. Another advantage...? Instead of paying for a wifi device on all 10 of my panels, I buy a single wifi enabled webcam.
I've been vegging with HPS and the plants don't seem to mind.
I hope you don't. I think having an opposing voice involved in a discussion helps keep it honest, but if you want to unsubscribe, click on "Thread Tools". If you're subscribed, there will be an option to unsubscribe.
Hi Sara
He asked his question on your public thread. There are some of us that would actually like to see it resolved publicly. I can't think of a much better endorsement for your company's customer support then a very visible resolution to an issue.
Thank you for your presence here. I hope everything works out well and you find the time spent here worthwhile.
Couldn't have said it better.
That's one of the reasons I like you my friend.
Don't feel any pressure BID. We all know your abilities. If you struggle with the new light, nobody is going to think any less of you. You're gonna get nothing but love from the rest of us while we work together to help you figure out how to use the new light. Just go into this expecting a learning curve. I'm confident you're gonna figure out the differences quick though. If the first batch isn't great, I'm sure you'll figure it out by the second grow. Don't worry. We're patient or we wouldn't be growers!
Sorry for the long response. I'm very interested in LEDs since I hope to buy 8-12 in the next year. Thanks to everyone for their input on this thread, and a special thanks to Sara and Top LED for offering the samples. I think you have chosen your testers well.
I'm in the same camp as Jon. I think the switches are useful on models meant to be used throughout the life of the plant. However, If it's a dedicated veg or bloom spectrum, then not only are switches not needed, they would be detrimental as it would raise complexity and therefore cost.
Veg panels are higher in the blue range and do well... but I have vegged under full bloom LED panels and the plants loved it!
I want inexpensive panels... that means I don't want to pay for LED's that will be switched off unless they are cheap green and white "assist" lights for work and photography. I have veg and bloom rooms so panels with additional LEDs would never be fully used...or, I think I would turn them all on anyway!!
This is a case of, "you can't please all the people all the time."
Buckshot, you know I have the deepest respect for you as a grower, but I disagree completely!
I don't want a green or "photo" LED in my panel. It's going to add to the cost and it another thing to break. A plain old green bulb worked for me in the 90's, and is still working for me now!
I'd rather spend $10 ($2 for the bulb and $8 for the clip light at wallyworld) for my green light, than an extra $5(10?) PER LIGHT. Granted, I need to buy more lights than some folks, but it adds up if you start running multiple lights.Now why would I want to turn off some of my LEDs? Jon already brought up the benefit of introducing delicate cuttings, but there is another reason...
There are many reasons we want to use LED, but one of them is targeted spectrum. And why do we want to use a targeted spectrum? The logic is, other "white" lights are wasting too much light energy in the wrong spectrums. Let's just agree that the plant absorbs different wavelengths at different rates and there is an "ideal" curve of absorption and that that curve changes during the plants lifecylce. Can we also agree that the plant prefers more red during flowering?
If we agree on the assumptions, then the switches help us towards the goal of delivering an optimal curve of intensity vs wavelength during the different phases of growth. Let's be clear, I'm not trying to say whether topledgrowlight, or any other LED vendor, has found that optimum curve. I suspect the better companies are getting closer everyday, but that's irrelevant to the discussion of the merits of switching off part of the panel.
Buck, I think you run a perpetual though, so of course you don't want a switch as your panels are always in a 12/12 room, right? I'm only advocating the switch for growers that want one panel to use in veg and flower. Like you, I want the bloom panel without a switch. Actually, I want 10 of them!
even just a simple built in timer for the lights on/off cycles would be pretty handy, we wouldnt have to buy timers for them
OK, now you guys are getting crazy!
I'm the type of person that likes to separate out functions. Maybe it's my computer programming background where we always try to break pieces of code apart so that no chunk tried to do too many things object orientated design is what they called it in school). What happens when the timer in my panel breaks and it get's "stuck" off? I'm sure you would be as upset as I would be. Let's assume it happens under warranty... I don't want to have to remove a LIGHT from my flowering room when I could have just replaced a timer.
No thank you. Let's please keep the panel as simple a design as possible.
Sounds great, how long to get a prototype on something like that? What do you think about wifi controller? I would love to monitor everything by PC.
(Yea, I'm an IT Guy.....we need everything on the PC.)
OMG!
LOL see above You guys are getting carried away now. Shove a panning webcam low in the room and you can just visually inspect all the panels. Another advantage...? Instead of paying for a wifi device on all 10 of my panels, I buy a single wifi enabled webcam.
I've been vegging with HPS and the plants don't seem to mind.
I hope you don't. I think having an opposing voice involved in a discussion helps keep it honest, but if you want to unsubscribe, click on "Thread Tools". If you're subscribed, there will be an option to unsubscribe.
Hi Sara
He asked his question on your public thread. There are some of us that would actually like to see it resolved publicly. I can't think of a much better endorsement for your company's customer support then a very visible resolution to an issue.
Thank you for your presence here. I hope everything works out well and you find the time spent here worthwhile.
Sara works for a manufacturer,people are rebranding and reselling her lights.
Come on bro, do you really think a company is going to pay $2000 a year to become sponsors here just to have us expose them as frauds once they sell a few lights that are different than the testers we are getting?doesnt make much sense does it? Maybe these lights arent where they need to be yet but by giving a few away to experienced growers and asking for honest feedback on what needs to be changed I think Sara honestly wants to make a good product that is affordable for everyone, I believe that led grow lights are the way of the future for indoor growing, its just a matter of dialing in the right spectrums and angles, once they figure that out being a big manufacturer and being able to buy all the parts in bulk will mean quality lights for a fair price for all of us
Couldn't have said it better.
Ive always been a"gotta try it myself"kinda guy, I feel its the only way to figure out what works best
That's one of the reasons I like you my friend.
Don't feel any pressure BID. We all know your abilities. If you struggle with the new light, nobody is going to think any less of you. You're gonna get nothing but love from the rest of us while we work together to help you figure out how to use the new light. Just go into this expecting a learning curve. I'm confident you're gonna figure out the differences quick though. If the first batch isn't great, I'm sure you'll figure it out by the second grow. Don't worry. We're patient or we wouldn't be growers!
Sorry for the long response. I'm very interested in LEDs since I hope to buy 8-12 in the next year. Thanks to everyone for their input on this thread, and a special thanks to Sara and Top LED for offering the samples. I think you have chosen your testers well.
BigIrishDoode
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hiker im actually not worried about my performance or abilities i said that so ppl that dont know me might understand im just a regular joe, and not a paid shill, those of you that do know me know how much i value honesty, and truth, ive read up on the led differences and i think im pretty well prepared, i will just treat it as a new thing without any expectations and go with what the plants tell me, im a less is more type, and getting more so all the time 
nice big ol honkin post there buddy lol good stuff
nice big ol honkin post there buddy lol good stuffTaylorMade420
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were all watching with the hope to switch to leds in the near future, only time will tell if these are the right panels for us
Maxximilian
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Buckshot, you know I have the deepest respect for you as a grower, but I disagree completely!
I don't want a green or "photo" LED in my panel. It's going to add to the cost and it another thing to break. A plain old green bulb worked for me in the 90's, and is still working for me now!
Now why would I want to turn off some of my LEDs? Jon already brought up the benefit of introducing delicate cuttings, but there is another reason...
There are many reasons we want to use LED, but one of them is targeted spectrum. And why do we want to use a targeted spectrum? The logic is, other "white" lights are wasting too much light energy in the wrong spectrums. Let's just agree that the plant absorbs different wavelengths at different rates and there is an "ideal" curve of absorption and that that curve changes during the plants lifecylce. Can we also agree that the plant prefers more red during flowering?
If we agree on the assumptions, then the switches help us towards the goal of delivering an optimal curve of intensity vs wavelength during the different phases of growth. Let's be clear, I'm not trying to say whether topledgrowlight, or any other LED vendor, has found that optimum curve. I suspect the better companies are getting closer everyday, but that's irrelevant to the discussion of the merits of switching off part of the panel.
Buck, I think you run a perpetual though, so of course you don't want a switch as your panels are always in a 12/12 room, right? I'm only advocating the switch for growers that want one panel to use in veg and flower. Like you, I want the bloom panel without a switch. Actually, I want 10 of them!
Hiker
No need to soften the blow with me
I respect your input and don't disagree
we were probably all fried during that convo lol...I think the switches are important but Hikers right, its just more things that can break