DrDoob
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Not totally sure what all that means but it sounds like a good addition to topicals to me.
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Not totally sure what all that means but it sounds like a good addition to topicals to me.
Thanks Dr! Looks like it might be a good idea after all. I won't be doing it but I'll include the option in future answers. I edited my post on the previous page.
It's too bad Magnus can't be here to help and to teach us further but I just wanted to say to @InTheShed for helping newcomers in Magnus' stead.
to @InTheShed for helping newcomers in Magnus' stead.
Speaking of topicals, I'm updating my strain list spreadsheet by looking up the terpene profile for each kind of seed we have and I looked up Dance World and found this info about its second highest terpene, beta-Caryophyllene:
Beta-caryophyllene binds to CB2 receptors, which makes it an ingredient in anti-inflammatory topicals and creams. Caryophyllene is the only terpene that binds to cannabinoid receptors. Caryophyllene is the only terpene known to interact with the body's endocannabinoid system (CB2). It produces anti-inflammatory and analgesic effects.
Interesting, eh?
Sorry, I don't have a link to where I found this info. I should get better at that.
Beta-caryophyllene binds to CB2 receptors, which makes it an ingredient in anti-inflammatory topicals and creams. Caryophyllene is the only terpene that binds to cannabinoid receptors. Caryophyllene is the only terpene known to interact with the body's endocannabinoid system (CB2). It produces anti-inflammatory and analgesic effects.
Interesting, eh?
Sorry, I don't have a link to where I found this info. I should get better at that.
The original data seems to be behind a paywall below, the abstract is here:
Here is the article:
The cannabinoid CB2 receptor-selective phytocannabinoid beta-caryophyllene exerts analgesic effects in mouse models of inflammatory and neuropathic pain
The widespread plant volatile beta-caryophyllene (BCP) was recently identified as a natural selective agonist of the peripherally expressed cannabinoi…
www.sciencedirect.com
Here is the article:
The cannabinoid CB2 receptor-selective phytocannabinoid beta-caryophyllene exerts analgesic effects in mouse models of inflammatory and neuropathic pain
The widespread plant volatile beta-caryophyllene (BCP) was recently identified as a natural selective agonist of the peripherally expressed cannabinoi…
reader.elsevier.com
I think terpenes are so cool. I just wish it was easier to find percentages in different strains but this is the first time I've seen a terpene that's supposed to make topicals that much more effective and I think it's all so very cool.
I'm looking forward to retirement (87 working days
) when I have more time to put into my learning. I'm also planning on learning how to grow. Currently, Felonious grows for me but I figure I'll have a grow journal here and Felonious at home so I'll have lots of help and even though, I kind of don't really want to learn how to grow (it all seems so complicated), I want to so that when Felonious asks my advice I know what the heck he's talking about and can actually help. Right now, I just get bored because I don't understand a lot of it and don't really care to.
I'm looking forward to retirement (87 working days
) when I have more time to put into my learning. I'm also planning on learning how to grow. Currently, Felonious grows for me but I figure I'll have a grow journal here and Felonious at home so I'll have lots of help and even though, I kind of don't really want to learn how to grow (it all seems so complicated), I want to so that when Felonious asks my advice I know what the heck he's talking about and can actually help. Right now, I just get bored because I don't understand a lot of it and don't really care to.
With the spare time on your hands and the great minds here (and elsewhere on the web I'm sure!), you will be dishing the advice like a pro in no time
You guys make me so proud to be a part of this family. 
Blazinjones
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Almond oil is in the middle of the absorbable pack so it should be fine.
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Keep in mind that any stiffeners or thickeners you add will make it less absorbable. They cause the product to sit more on the surface of the skin.
The next consideration is the strength, and I suggest making it as close to 15mg/ml THC as possible. That's where I find the best pain relief. The more times you run it through the MB2 the better, with a cool down period in between. I run mine for 8 hours at 160º, let it cool overnight, and run it the same again.No need for liquid sunflower lecithin in topicals.[see discussion below]
Awesome info thanx shed so much i really appreciate the help. Ive been trying to use cco on my back an im like ok jesus ive ran almost a half pound threw this oil. An its barly even working lol. Then i remembered this spot again so was like ok its time to check it out again. Since now the docs are dropping my meds again an im noticing each time we do a drop i need to manage or slightly to drastically change my oil regimen. An with this last drop i did it hit me alot harder then i thought it would so started tryn to use more topicals but like i was sayn the cco jus wasnt cutting it. Lmao now i find out y haha it dnt absorb into the skin as gud an explains y i have to sit around with no shirt cause my whole back is coverd in black green slimy oil
. But yea now im guna try this sweet almond oil i got see how tht works. Oh i also have some hemp oil can i use tht for any type of topical or no? Also when u say the more times i run it threw my mb2 the better are u meaning with the same batch of bud run the 8 hour mark then wait till cooled down an do again. Now should i do it any more times with the same bud/material or do u mean use new bud/material but jus use the same oil?
Blazinjones
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You guys make me so proud to be a part of this family.
Hey super sue how u been doing latley good i hope? An i know right this is my home away from home hahaha. I love my 420 fam an this place. I managed to find my way back here thanx to you 4 showing it to me in the 1st place thank you for tht lol. Now my doc dropped me again on meds an its hitting me alil bit harder then i first thought it would. So after talkn with her she is guna let me sit here for a month maybe threw the winter then pick back up after winter would nice. But not 100% sure if she will let me sit at this level tht long. But either way its got me looking for a better oil to use a massage/topical oil. An once i got here an started reading i found out y my back is always so slimy and green lmao an y my oil isnt working as gud as i thought it would. I figured since my grandmother said that back in the day WAY back lmao they used to use lard to help moisturize the skin an protect it against the weather wen it was cold. So i figured if they used lard back then (an omg since going vegan that jus sounds soo bad to me lol) but yea then my cco should work. And after numerous times ran with more trim an more bud i finally got it to start to kinda help alil bit. But now with this latest med drop its not working any more so really needed to find sumthn tht will work. An lucky me i had a full bottle of sweet almond oil tht i got awhile back n never got around to using till now. An thank god i had this otherwise id be waiting to make this oil. Cause i went into town to buy some more oils an they dont got nuthn cept vegetable oil and xtra virgin olive oil an idk if tht will work or not. So i jus decided against getting any of them. So yea now im off to turn this plain almond oil into a gud infused massage oil atleast i hope so anyway lol. But yea hope you an the daughter an every1 in the fam are in fine health n doin good have a good night.
Blazinjones
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It's too bad Magnus can't be here to help and to teach us further but I just wanted to say
Is magnus no longer with us?
Unfortunately, Magnus has fallen on hard times and even though being part of this community would probably be very helpful for him, he can't afford Internet right now and I don't even know if he has a computer anymore. His wife left him in May and he's on permanent disability living in a trailer in north Alberta.
I think he's really struggling and I feel bad for him.
I think he's really struggling and I feel bad for him.
Blazinjones
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Unfortunately, Magnus has fallen on hard times and even though being part of this community would probably be very helpful for him, he can't afford Internet right now and I don't even know if he has a computer anymore. His wife left him in May and he's on permanent disability living in a trailer in north Alberta.
I think he's really struggling and I feel bad for him.
Dam thats a rough one to deal with all at one time shit.
I haven't seen hemp oil listed as a massage oil but it is supposed to be very good for you taken internally...Omega 3s and things like that. I would stick with the almond oil now, and next batch go with grapeseed.
Sorry, I meant same oil, same bud, run twice with a cool down in between.
You could even run it more times, as it may get stronger and stronger, as Derby outlined in this post yesterday:
https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/derbys-fly-by-night-photos.470504/post-4689262
Sorry, I meant same oil, same bud, run twice with a cool down in between.
You could even run it more times, as it may get stronger and stronger, as Derby outlined in this post yesterday:
https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/derbys-fly-by-night-photos.470504/post-4689262
Blazinjones
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Ok awesome thanx man i appreciate it. Ok so would an hour cool down be good or how long of a cool down is needed?
Blazinjones
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Ok so here is some sweet almond oil i made. I ran it in the mb2 machine. First run was for 8hours at a 160°f an let cool down for about 3 hours or so then ran again at 160°f for 4 more hours then let sit to cool down over night then ran one more time at 160°f for another 8 hours. So we will see how potent this oil is. I cant wait to try it out on my back. Specially since now its killing me an i dnt wana take one of my oxys. So im guna try this oil now an its quarter to 5 so lets hope it works to help me hold off on my meds. Anything to help me push the time longer an longer till i have to take each dose is great for me lol.
Looks perfect! Sorry I didn't get back to you about the cool-down time. I leave mine overnight, but you did too 
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Don't just focus on applying it where it hurts. Make sure you get it well-massaged into your Medial Dorsal Rami, explained here on page 39 of this very thread! It's where the cervical vertebrae meet the spinal column.
Many users find smoking and edibles good for back pain as well with certain strains, so I was hoping you might find some relief with all possible uses for the plants.
.Don't just focus on applying it where it hurts. Make sure you get it well-massaged into your Medial Dorsal Rami, explained here on page 39 of this very thread! It's where the cervical vertebrae meet the spinal column.
Many users find smoking and edibles good for back pain as well with certain strains, so I was hoping you might find some relief with all possible uses for the plants.
Blazinjones
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Looks perfect! Sorry I didn't get back to you about the cool-down time. I leave mine overnight, but you did too
Don't just focus on applying it where it hurts. Make sure you get it well-massaged into your Medial Dorsal Rami, explained here on page 39 of this very thread! It's where the cervical vertebrae meet the spinal column.
Many users find smoking and edibles good for back pain as well with certain strains, so I was hoping you might find some relief with all possible uses for the plants.
Oh i use it all lmao. Shit even after the cured buds that u keep. Well wen u break up some bud the lil stem pieces u get well i leave alil bud on them wen breaking it up an save it. An then i use tht for my concentrate runs. Plus any of the larfy buds goes to oil or concentrates depending on what i need lol. But yea man thanx for the help an the positive feedback much appreciated.
kelticBlue
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I just made a batch with Zamaldelica buds. Mostly grapeseed oil, going with half punkin next time, change it up a bit.
Your skin is going to be so high!