Lollipopping Newbie

[CE2JD2]

Hi All,
New to the group and new to lollipopping technique. Thought I would it try out on this years grow.

Can you take a look and let me know your thoughts and/or suggestions on how this plant looks.

 

[CelestialNurseries]

Looks like you were a Dr. Seuss fan...It's a little extreme but hey, it might be the hot new thing

 

[CE2JD2]

Looks like you were a Dr. Seuss fan...It's a little extreme but hey, it might be the hot new thing

Ya I find it a little hard to believe this will be as good as an un-lollipopped (new word lol) plant…we will see shortly…Solstice is coming soon now.

 

[CelestialNurseries]

Ya I find it a little hard to believe this will be as good as an un-lollipopped (new word lol) plant…we will see shortly…Solstice is coming soon now.

I feel it just depends on your end goal..I personally will never harvest a outdoor grown plant for flower so there is no point in directing all growth to colas..I will only be making extracts with it.

 

[Bill284]

Hi All,
New to the group and new to lollipopping technique. Thought I would it try out on this years grow.

Can you take a look and let me know your thoughts and/or suggestions on how this plant looks.

Beautiful garden, hope you are well my friend.
Welcome to 420Magazine.
We use lollipoping to remove larf and smalls below the light line.
Normally in a tent or indoor grow.
Outside you don't get a shaded area there.
The sun penatrates pretty well.
Next outdoor girl a light cleaning is all that's required.
No need to defol outside.
But the colas you will get now should be huge.
If you want to meet everyone and say hi here is a link.

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Edit :
I just checked your icon.
Your yard looks like Cali.
But says Toronto.
I lived there 25 years, Im about 7-8 hrs north now.
Depending what your driving.

 

[SmokingWings]

Ya I find it a little hard to believe this will be as good as an un-lollipopped (new word lol) plant…we will see shortly…Solstice is coming soon now.

Looking good with the flat top often used by indoor growers. And the area under the canopy has been cleaned out to get rid of those leaves and small stems the end up amounting to nothing.

But I have to disagree with Bill on this.....

Normally in a tent or indoor grow.
Outside you don't get a shaded area there.
The sun penatrates pretty well.

I have visited a small outdoor medical grow (a pre legal recreational grow) where the guys working the plants had turned them into a true lollipop form. The canopy on each plant was a round ball and the stem or stems below the bottom of the canopy was cut bare with no leaves or small stems.

There have been photos on 420 of outdoor lollipop plants with the round canopy. One of the best ones the poster had his plants in a fenced in area in the yard. The plants were in several rows, each with that look. The ground was covered with straw as a mulch. It did look like a well planned grow.

The idea is that the sunlight can hit not only the top of the canopy but because of its intensity and because it comes at the plant from more than just straight above it can hit more of the surface of a the round shape. With the traditional 'flat top tuna fish can' type of lollipop that we trim and train indoors there is a larger area underneath that gets very little light indoors and not much more outdoors. And indoors the reflected light from the sides of the tent that hit the sides of this type of canopy is weaker light than what is hitting the top.

Maybe my basic artwork showing a round ball lollipop plant and a flat top helps explain what I am getting at.

 

[Roy Growin]

I'd be happy with that
That's my tuppence worth [though the price is negotiable ]

 

[CE2JD2]

Looking good with the flat top often used by indoor growers. And the area under the canopy has been cleaned out to get rid of those leaves and small stems the end up amounting to nothing.

But I have to disagree with Bill on this.....

I have visited a small outdoor medical grow (a pre legal recreational grow) where the guys working the plants had turned them into a true lollipop form. The canopy on each plant was a round ball and the stem or stems below the bottom of the canopy was cut bare with no leaves or small stems.

There have been photos on 420 of outdoor lollipop plants with the round canopy. One of the best ones the poster had his plants in a fenced in area in the yard. The plants were in several rows, each with that look. The ground was covered with straw as a mulch. It did look like a well planned grow.

The idea is that the sunlight can hit not only the top of the canopy but because of its intensity and because it comes at the plant from more than just straight above it can hit more of the surface of a the round shape. With the traditional 'flat top tuna fish can' type of lollipop that we trim and train indoors there is a larger area underneath that gets very little light indoors and not much more outdoors. And indoors the reflected light from the sides of the tent that hit the sides of this type of canopy is weaker light than what is hitting the top.

Maybe my basic artwork showing a round ball lollipop plant and a flat top helps explain what I am getting at.

Ya the little bugger is still wanting to grow vertically…, I think I will leave it given the time of year though.

 

[Mountainman80]

Hi All,
New to the group and new to lollipopping technique. Thought I would it try out on this years grow.

Can you take a look and let me know your thoughts and/or suggestions on how this plant looks.

She looks awesome lollipoping always helps all our nutes will go to the bigger coloas were as not lollipoping all smaller suckers I call them they steel nutes from.larger flowers

 

[CE2JD2]

Beautiful garden, hope you are well my friend.
Welcome to 420Magazine.
We use lollipoping to remove larf and smalls below the light line.
Normally in a tent or indoor grow.
Outside you don't get a shaded area there.
The sun penatrates pretty well.
Next outdoor girl a light cleaning is all that's required.
No need to defol outside.
But the colas you will get now should be huge.
If you want to meet everyone and say hi here is a link.

Introduce Yourself

Your opportunity to tell the 420 community a little about yourself and your interest in cannabis with a brief introduction

www.420magazine.com

Stay safe
Bill284


Edit :
I just checked your icon.
Your yard looks like Cali.
But says Toronto.
I lived there 25 years, Im about 7-8 hrs north now.
Depending what your driving.

Thank you! I am about an hour or so South West of the “6”…lol

 

[Frankster1803]

Hey their my first time growing and looking for some feedback we have 11 runtz come from cuttings , environment has been perfect temp and humidity levels perfect through out veg and flower were 7 week into flower , in a 8x6 grow tent , two hps grow lights , 3 mini fans intake out take yesterday a couple branches had completely snapped I think due to over crowding and no support the buds aren’t that big neither so was unsure why that happened , we’ve flushed for one week and hoping to start drying next Friday what do u think

 

[Mountainman80]

Hey their my first time growing and looking for some feedback we have 11 runtz come from cuttings , environment has been perfect temp and humidity levels perfect through out veg and flower were 7 week into flower , in a 8x6 grow tent , two hps grow lights , 3 mini fans intake out take yesterday a couple branches had completely snapped I think due to over crowding and no support the buds aren’t that big neither so was unsure why that happened , we’ve flushed for one week and hoping to start drying next Friday what do u think

Looks awesome I'd give her another week before cutting mabey two weeks

 

[Frankster1803]

Really I was really thinking they weren’t that great will they be ok on water for another two week ?

 

[CE2JD2]

Hey their my first time growing and looking for some feedback we have 11 runtz come from cuttings , environment has been perfect temp and humidity levels perfect through out veg and flower were 7 week into flower , in a 8x6 grow tent , two hps grow lights , 3 mini fans intake out take yesterday a couple branches had completely snapped I think due to over crowding and no support the buds aren’t that big neither so was unsure why that happened , we’ve flushed for one week and hoping to start drying next Friday what do u think

FN awesome looking…

 

[Chuckeye]

Really I was really thinking they weren’t that great will they be ok on water for another two week ?

Feed until the end.

When all the white pistils have turned color and receded start looking at the trichomes.

Wait until they are all at least white, no transparent. Then you are at the start of the harvest window.

Cheers

 

[CE2JD2]

So …look at this now . Surprise, surprise lol

I thought there was to be no flowers until Solstice…?

 

[Bill284]

Hey their my first time growing and looking for some feedback we have 11 runtz come from cuttings , environment has been perfect temp and humidity levels perfect through out veg and flower were 7 week into flower , in a 8x6 grow tent , two hps grow lights , 3 mini fans intake out take yesterday a couple branches had completely snapped I think due to over crowding and no support the buds aren’t that big neither so was unsure why that happened , we’ve flushed for one week and hoping to start drying next Friday what do u think

Hey @Frankster1803 hope you are well my friend.
Brilliant girls.
If you want to meet everyone and say hi here is a link

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If you need anything I'm always around.
Take care.




Stay safe
Bill284

 

[CE2JD2]

So …look at this now . Surprise, surprise lol

I thought there was to be no flowers until Solstice…?

Can someone help me understand why my plant is flowering ahead of 12/12 solstice?? Or is this pre-flower still.

 

[SmokingWings]

Can someone help me understand why my plant is flowering ahead of 12/12 solstice?? Or is this pre-flower still.

Because you are growing outside. The first and last hour or so of sunlight is rather weak. It is not strong enough to change the plant over from its production of flowering hormones back to the hormones that dictate a vegetating growth. Anytime there are clouds in the morning or evening the amount of usable sunlight drops even more. People who take photos and like to experiment with the lens setting themselves instead of letting the camera program have noticed this.

Something to think about. If the grower had to wait till the equinox (solstice for the longest day and longest night) with its 12/12 sunlight then very few outdoor growers could get a decent harvest before the cold weather kills off the plant.

Many indoor growers have their lights come on at a full power level. It is like instant midday sun and not an hours long process that starts before sunrise with pre-dawn low light levels and ends at sunset with its hours long weakening of the light. This very short wiki article below gives some basic explanations of what is happening and worth the read.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight

Most Northern Hemisphere growers will notice the first signs of flowering between the 7th and 20th of August. Every now and then a plant will start earlier and this year I had one go as long as the 22nd before it showed pistils but that one also has a problem so it will hit the compost pile this week. I noticed the start of the buds developing in your first message in this thread and figured everything was on schedule.

 

[CE2JD2]

Thanks!! This explanation is what I have been missing. I wanted to know from a pruning perspective too when to possibly expect her change

Thanks again