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Pinky and Violet look great LKA. :thumb:
Thanks Keith.
Great pic with the plant behind and the trimmings in front! It really shows how much you can take off a plant and still grow a beauty. :)
Thanks Shed. Violet's so freaking big and her canopy is so full nothing down there was getting much light anyways.
What a beauty.
Thanks Carmen, she really is. I just hope I can keep her healthy and bug free🤞
 
Damn! You're doing it again BudMan!
 
Damn! You're doing it again BudMan!
Thanks GDB. I love being able to cycle through these autos and try different things. Right now she's the biggest, healthiest one yet ;)
 
Julie (Herbies Seeds Girl Scout Cookies Auto)
*** Final Update ***

Sprouted: 5/30/23
Harvested: 9/2/23 Day# 95 Fday# 60
Pests: Fungus Gnats, Spider Mites (washed at harvest)​

Julie has been in the drying closet for 13 days since we chopped her. There was a heat wave in there and the closet got up to 70f a couple of times. With all that, I'll take an average of 65f/60% RH.
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I broke down her SIP bucket and root ball a couple of days ago. She had a nice thick stump, and you could see where one of the branches was broken and healed back up.
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When I pulled her out of the bucket she came out in one piece. Everything was pretty dry after a week or so.
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As soon as I set her down, though, the bottom 'feet' crumbled away revealing the SIP insert. Once again, not much grew below the air gap.
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Right above the air gap, though, was her biggest mass of roots. They were stacked on top of the SIP insert, and were even thicker running around the outside of the bottom.
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When I broke up the rootball a bit, I see:
- The original root ball from the 4" pot is still very intact. She has a huge stump, and the root ball right under there is very dense. She had some feeder roots near the top of the soil.

- This middle had quite a few roots leading down to the bottom, but also a lot of empty soil. Once again, the SIP does not seem to grow many feeder roots in the middle of the bucket.

- The bottom, above the air gap, was a solid disk of roots. This looks like where she is getting most of her water/nutrients. It's a mass if tiny roots all woven together.
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This morning the stems were reading 14% on the wood moisture meter telling me it was time to buck the buds. She was sticky and stinky in the best way. I ended up with 232g, or just over half a pound (8.2oz). The buds are not very big but there are a lot of them and they're nice and dense. They're in a 1Lb Grove bag right now with a hygrometer, currently reading right around 60% RH. I'll give her a full day to stabalize, but I think she's all set for the cure. And tonight, a little sample :yummy:
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That's an excellent collection of beautiful buds that no one would know what the plant looked like in the end! :welldone: on the harvest and the rootopsy as well.

I wonder if there is some way of designing the SIP to spread some of those roots just above the res to grow somewhere else as well. Are they just seeking more soil and run out of room to grow down like they would in a conventional pot? Or is that where most of the moisture is so that's where most of them grow?
 
I wonder if there is some way of designing the SIP to spread some of those roots just above the res to grow somewhere else as well.
I'm not a SIPer but I've been watching the goings on. I think a SIP with a timed drip-feed system up top would work.
 
Great look at the roots, LK. It sure would be nice to hone in on what determines whether roots stop at the air gap or completely fill the pot.

I'm not convinced the difference matters much, if at all, though.

Congrats on the harvest!
 
That's an excellent collection of beautiful buds that no one would know what the plant looked like in the end! :welldone: on the harvest and the rootopsy as well.
Thanks Shed. I'm pretty happy with the result, especially considering where she was at day# 40 of flower.
I wonder if there is some way of designing the SIP to spread some of those roots just above the res to grow somewhere else as well. Are they just seeking more soil and run out of room to grow down like they would in a conventional pot? Or is that where most of the moisture is so that's where most of them grow?
I think they're water roots that are sitting right above the 'feet' where it's the most wet, but they also have access to O2. Any higher and it gets dry, any lower and there's no air.

I think you can fill more of that middle space with roots by top-watering for the first week or two in the SIP before switching over to the res. I'm not sure if that would be better or worse for the plant, though.
 
I'm not a SIPer but I've been watching the goings on. I think a SIP with a timed drip-feed system up top would work.
It would, but that's not a SIP ;) As I said above, though, that might be better for the first week or two to better fill the bucket with roots. I'm not sure if it would be difficult for the plant to switch over to the SIP, though.
 
Great look at the roots, LK. It sure would be nice to hone in on what determines whether roots stop at the air gap or completely fill the pot.

I'm not convinced the difference matters much, if at all, though.

Congrats on the harvest!
Thanks Az. With these SIP bucket inserts, there really isn't that much soil in the 'feet' anyways. I think I'd rather the roots stop at the air gap than have them grow down into the res.
 
I used to worry about stunting them with LST but it doesn't seem to matter. For me the keys are:
- Start in a smaller pot to maximize root growth in the first two weeks. I see a lot of people starting autos in their final pots which makes it hard to really build a solid root ball. For me, weighing the 4" pots lets me know how much they're drinking and when they need more water.
Hi LKA, happy Saturday. I'm looking at the condition of my seedlings in their seedling starter and thinking they need proper soil. They are 11 days old and I think they look hungry. So I feel they need to move up into bigger pots. They are still very little with no sign of roots at the bottom yet. My choice is up into 4 L pots or 20 L pots. I would ordinarily go straight to the 20 L but from what you're saying here it might be better to do it gradually?
 
Hi LKA, happy Saturday. I'm looking at the condition of my seedlings in their seedling starter and thinking they need proper soil. They are 11 days old and I think they look hungry. So I feel they need to move up into bigger pots. They are still very little with no sign of roots at the bottom yet. My choice is up into 4 L pots or 20 L pots. I would ordinarily go straight to the 20 L but from what you're saying here it might be better to do it gradually?
Hi Carmen, I started my first seed in 'seed starter', never again. I just start in FFHF soil now. The biggest trick to seedlings, though, is proper watering. It's amazing how little water they need in the first couple of weeks. Smaller pots help you measure water usage and allow them to drain their pot more quickly. And of course, if you have any @DYNOMYCO I always take the chance to coat the rootball in some myco at each uppot.
 
Hi Carmen, I started my first seed in 'seed starter', never again. I just start in FFHF soil now. The biggest trick to seedlings, though, is proper watering. It's amazing how little water they need in the first couple of weeks. Smaller pots help you measure water usage and allow them to drain their pot more quickly. And of course, if you have any @DYNOMYCO I always take the chance to coat the rootball in some myco at each uppot.
Thank you. That's interesting. This is my second time using a seed starter. The first time was better when I mixed it with 50 % soil. Why do you say "never again"?
 
Thank you. That's interesting. This is my second time using a seed starter. The first time was better when I mixed it with 50 % soil. Why do you say "never again"?
I used Espoma seed starter. It didn't hold moisture very well and didn't have enough nutrients. I have much better results in FFHF soil.
 
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