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I hoped to be up and running on my home build LEDs by now, but Gert going early kind of blew my budget out the window. So now it might be a good couple of months before I can afford to get going on them now.
I had a great, tiny little 70 watt hps that was awesome for small spaces :)
Cfls can do good things and you have proved such!
 
looking great as always LA,

im so glad your finding DnS a great product, im so chuffed to of also won some a while back, i was always biased to one brand as it always produced amazing results but mixing the nutes up for each stage was a pain as it had about 6 or 7 different feed stages and each stage had a different amount of each nute bottle in it and its to easy to make mistakes, when you making up 3 or 4 2ltr pop bottles of nute then its very easy to forget what you have added and what need to add, i had 4 bottles to mix up, dont get my wrong the product worked and worked well but an all in one product takes a lot of the risk out
so like LA im super chuffed at how well it works and how easy it is to use, id vouch for it anyday and tell everyone its well worth giving it a shot, another great idea with DnS is you can buy a small sample package so you can try it before you buy the bigger bags,

i think their sample is good for 2 plants from seed to harvest so id say if your after nutrients that work and work well then give them a try, im pretty confident you will be a regular customer, plus the product last ages so will grow many plants before i need to order some more.

theirs a couple of companies i always like to recomend to everyone and for seeds id go herbies head shop, great prices, speedy delivery and a brilliant free seed offer with all orders even if you buy just 1 cheap seed, buy 1 seed and you will always get 3 free, one will be fem or auto fem, so you cant go wrong.

DnS reasons stated above,

SnS, Sns was something i didnt think id ever get the chance to try as at the time they was not selling to the country im in, not sure if things have changed now but as i won them they sent them out as gifts instead of a regular sale, i applied for some samples a while back and was told they could not sell where i am so i was pretty gutted, but then they posted out my sns products and covered the shipping as well, ive used the veg booster and flower booster liquids with my DnS nutes and not had any problems what so ever, i was also chuffed to bits with their gnat treatment as ive suffered with gnats since i started growing but i used the sns products twice and ive never seen another gnat or gnat larvae anywhere, so if all their products work this well then id say jump in and give them a try.

@LA, when do you chnge to flowering nutes mate, also you count day 1 like outdoor growers do, they dont know by the light schedule when their in flower so they cound day 1 from the day they see buds forming, indoors we tend to use day as the 1st day of 12-12, this is what a lot of growers use but then they wonder why the breeders flowering period times is a few weeks off, you need to factor in the 2 to 3 weeks of 12-12 when the plant is still in veg.
with the nutes i used to give flowering stage feed when i flipped the lights to 12-12, but what i do now is keep giving veg feed as the plant needs its N during the rapid growth when the stretch happens, so ive found sticking with the veg nutes until at least day 14 to 21 of 12-12 so just wondered id this is what you or anyone else does or do you flip to flower nutes when you flip the lights

a good method to limit the stretch at the start of 12-12 is to make sure the plant is fully mature when you flip to 12-12, i mean you can go 12-12 from seed but the plant wont show sex or even think about flowering until around week 6 from sprouting so going `12-12 when the plants not fully mature (its mature when it shows sex during veg, so if its female you will see pistils at the nodes) will just mean you end up with more stretch so your also wasting a week or 2 of extra light as your giving it 12-12 when it not mature, so i always now make sure my plants are showing sex or at least most of them showing sex before flipping 12-12

sorry for hyjacking your thread buddy
peace
 
"a good method to limit the stretch at the start of 12-12 is to make sure the plant is fully mature when you flip to 12-12, i mean you can go 12-12 from seed but the plant wont show sex or even think about flowering until around week 6 from sprouting so going `12-12 when the plants not fully mature (its mature when it shows sex during veg, so if its female you will see pistils at the nodes) will just mean you end up with more stretch so your also wasting a week or 2 of extra light as your giving it 12-12 when it not mature, so i always now make sure my plants are showing sex or at least most of them showing sex before flipping 12-12"

my plants show sex 2-3 weeks from breaking earth at 12/12 from seed, therefore 2-3 weeks of veg is probably ideal.
 
Hey all :) Dining like an American tonight! Oscar Mayer cheese dogs with Hormel Chilli. With extra scotch bonnets and some Colby Jack cheese!
 
Hey Jay :)
Donpaul my friend, I carried on with my veg nutes till stretch was done. Just makes sense :)
 
Light Addict said:
Donpaul my friend, I carried on with my veg nutes till stretch was done. Just makes sense :)
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Actually, implementing a good 'transitional' feeding regime goes a whole lot further than sticking with vegetative-based nutrients through the first two weeks of flower. I find that weening the plant off the high levels of Nitrogen, and introducing more even levels of Phosphorous and Potassium, help the plant transition into the flowering stage much more gracefully and less chance of nutrient deficiencies. High doses of Nitrogen can greatly slow down the time it takes for the plant to start flowering.

Personally I go from a high nitrogen diet in veg, to an absolute even mix of N-P-K for the week before flowering, and the week after flowering has been induced. Then 2 weeks in, I change to a full flower regime!

Good luck and best of greens to you my friend ;)
 
Awesome post AG, Ill take that on board for future times as definitely makes more sense :) Many thanks and best of buds back at ya my friend!
 
AfricanGrower said:
Actually, implementing a good 'transitional' feeding regime goes a whole lot further than sticking with vegetative-based nutrients through the first two weeks of flower. I find that weening the plant off the high levels of Nitrogen, and introducing more even levels of Phosphorous and Potassium, help the plant transition into the flowering stage much more gracefully and less chance of nutrient deficiencies. High doses of Nitrogen can greatly slow down the time it takes for the plant to start flowering.

Personally I go from a high nitrogen diet in veg, to an absolute even mix of N-P-K for the week before flowering, and the week after flowering has been induced. Then 2 weeks in, I change to a full flower regime!

Good luck and best of greens to you my friend ;)
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not really. if you look at the ingredients (if you use the same companies grow and bloom nutes) they are derived from the same exact things, just in different ratios. it's any easy way for the company to make more money, instead of just giving you a 1-1-1 feed plus cal/mag in one.
 
b.real said:
not really. if you look at the ingredients (if you use the same companies grow and bloom nutes) they are derived from the same exact things, just in different ratios. it's any easy way for the company to make more money, instead of just giving you a 1-1-1 feed plus cal/mag in one.
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I think we are on 2 different pages here B :)

Completely removing specific company ratios or that which is read on the bottle, I can say that a plant, regardless of strain, will require an appropriate proportion of nutrients throughout its lifespan. Whether it is a little bit more N in veg or a bit more P in flower, can vary from strain to strain, but overall the rule of thumb is that a vegetative plant requires more Nitrogen, and a flowering plant requires more Phosphorous and Potassium. that said, being able to prepare your plants to having a more flowering-geared diet is beneficial in the sense that you are not imposing sudden stress in the change of nutrient makeup. By giving more nutrients concentrated in P and K during vegetative growth (anything past 4-6weeks) can also speed up the time it takes for a plant to show sexual maturity.

So one has to think whether or not timing what nutrients to hold in abundance over others during specific grow cycles can actually help prevent deficiencies and lockouts. I say yes :high-five:
 
AfricanGrower said:
I think we are on 2 different pages here B :)

Completely removing specific company ratios or that which is read on the bottle, I can say that a plant, regardless of strain, will require an appropriate proportion of nutrients throughout its lifespan. Whether it is a little bit more N in veg or a bit more P in flower, can vary from strain to strain, but overall the rule of thumb is that a vegetative plant requires more Nitrogen, and a flowering plant requires more Phosphorous and Potassium. that said, being able to prepare your plants to having a more flowering-geared diet is beneficial in the sense that you are not imposing sudden stress in the change of nutrient makeup. By giving more nutrients concentrated in P and K during vegetative growth (anything past 4-6weeks) can also speed up the time it takes for a plant to show sexual maturity.

So one has to think whether or not timing what nutrients to hold in abundance over others during specific grow cycles can actually help prevent deficiencies and lockouts. I say yes :high-five:
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very true, but at the same time as long as they have enough of each mineral, it's enough in my book. I could see an issue arising if you use something like a 5-1-1 feed in bloom and have a nitrogen overload, but a 1-1-1 would be perfect for veg and bloom.

actually wildrosebud does use a 5-1-1 feed in bloom and he gets monster buds, so idk.

again I think enough is enough. I think too much is just as bad as too little. the plant will use what it wants and store what it doesn't want as long as it's available to them.
 
Light Addict said:
Hey Jay :)
Donpaul my friend, I carried on with my veg nutes till stretch was done. Just makes sense :)
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That is interesting. I follow the guidance of that nute guy from another planet that basically said a 50/50 mix of veg/flower mix through stretch transition. Then full on flower mix.
 
Bassman59 said:
That is interesting. I follow the guidance of that nute guy from another planet that basically said a 50/50 mix of veg/flower mix through stretch transition. Then full on flower mix.
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Yeah my choice was simple, as my girl was fully mature I knew she would not stretch much. Yet I needed as much as possible, so the grow phase nutes made more sense to me through stretch. As soon as she had stopped stretching I hit her with a full wack of flower nutes.
 
Hey all just some pics before lights out :)
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Light Addict said:
Hey all just some pics before lights out :)
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Dawg, she's looking absolutely frick'in stunning! I'm thoroughly impressed & can't believe how fast she changes day to day, mind boggling and some reps are coming in a moment. I've got a couple of questions and reflections. The reflections might seem negative in a sort given your goals here, but I truly assure you...they are given on bended knee cow towing and actually completely positive and (I dare say) not meant as "optomistic" any longer but I really believe and expect them.

I don't know whether or not you'll get 1' colas but I'd say even if all hell happens 8" is in the bag, probably 10" and the way she is here so fast they probably are going to be ridiculously giant in total girth. I think 32 ozs might be kinda tough but I find it hard to believe you're not going to be a member of the one pound club and looks like you got a real chance at going into the 20+ ozs range.

With that said/speculated, do you have any kind of "restraint" system that can be tossed in ad hoc down the road in case those tops start toppling? Might want to give that some thought while there's actually still room in there to manipulate something, I'm assuming you either don't have yo-yo's en masse or there's nothing other than the light to attach them to. If that's the case, perhaps being on the look out for a real cheap shower curtain rod might be in order. They're easy & fast in a pinch to toss in should the need arise & it looks like it very well may, yeah right! Some ribbon, couple slip knots and presto-speedy support system for the buds.

Wow! Hats off my friend; I salute your discipline on this grow. Your patience is soon to pay off in all aspects of a successful endeavor; and to think most of us woulda probably have culled her way back when, lol. Let me end this awe filled rambling now before I forget to send the reps.
 
jamthe3 :) your very kind indeed. Yeah my original posted target of 25 oz was a fun punt, whey back when.
She really is developing so much Pics ain't doing her justice. Each site has branching off it lower down like a single plant. She already has bud from the bottom to the top so I reckon actually over a foot at end for colas :) (as long as I get defol right)
I'm really happy after looking at some google images of this strain. She should build big bats of bud. So I'm gonna stand by the 25oz mark. :) I might be wrong? we shall see soon enough!

As for your comments about support a bit further on, I have a wooden jig for CFL placement up near the light. it can be adjusted/lowered down at any point and will give me plenty of tie points. Although I dont' think I'll need it. The structure of the branches is mad thick.

Once again many thanks for your Kind words. I'm at that bit now where I want to wish my life away lol.
 
Light Addict said:
jamthe3 :) your very kind indeed. Yeah my original posted target of 25 oz was a fun punt, whey back when.
She really is developing so much Pics ain't doing her justice. Each site has branching off it lower down like a single plant. She already has bud from the bottom to the top so I reckon actually over a foot at end for colas :) (as long as I get defol right)
I'm really happy after looking at some google images of this strain. She should build big bats of bud. So I'm gonna stand by the 25oz mark. :) I might be wrong? we shall see soon enough!

As for your comments about support a bit further on, I have a wooden jig for CFL placement up near the light. it can be adjusted/lowered down at any point and will give me plenty of tie points. Although I dont' think I'll need it. The structure of the branches is mad thick.

Once again many thanks for your Kind words. I'm at that bit now where I want to wish my life away lol.
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Well, that's a goal I like. I missed seeing that and for some reason had the thought the goal was 2 elbows for some reason. Thus why I forshadowed my remarks. Goals should be lofty and difficult enough to achieve, but not so high as to make failure so likely that one doesn't ever really put out a true effort the whole way through imho. A few weeks ago, I'd prob thought 25 ozs was to high a benchmark on this girl. Now, I'd say you truly have a shot at that...more than a shot if no bad luck rears his ugly face.

As for "kind words," my vocabulary doesn't contain them; I gave nothing but what you EARNED with your efforts. Wish I had the skill set you're displaying here; you sir have truly renewed my desire to improve to the point where I can come back down the road & talk "sheeeet" and display more thoroughly my lack of a kind word vocabulary, lol, when I put up a 25 ouncer + a gram....yeah, that's the ticket.

Cheers,
John

PS- Oh, btw, how long did she veg before flip?
 
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